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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19291 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
It's not just the salaries, is it. A lot of coast guards also get subsidised rents, if these are not paid then they could get evicted. And don't forget the US Coastguard also operates overseas, some foreigners might not be so forgiving if the rent is late. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
BTW: I am glad I am not one of those Federal Employees living paycheck to paycheck during the many Shutdowns over the decades.Geez. Are the US Federal Employees employed by the president? To me it sounds like Autocracy! Surely there are amendments to the US Constitution that your forefathers have foreseen this. Or? |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
BTW: Does the Swedish News Media put this Partial Shutdown in the context of our many other past Shutdown's?Actually our media does explain a lot of what happening in US politicals. For instance an election in the US is covered more than an election over here. But I guess right now our media wonder what the heck is going on over there. Governmental shutdowns doesn't happen here. But then again we have even a problem to get a new government. Yes. Since the election in September we still have not a new government! |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
[With Trump, who knows what will happen.LOL:) Exactly. No one knows his next step. Not even his cabinet! Blin. Even Putin is more relabibly. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11406 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
The fact is Trump is doing this on purpose and any compromise will not please him or his base. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11406 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
True but Trump has veto power Pelosi does not, she can't shut down the government. Trump has shut it down. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11406 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
The mid term elections nationally went democrat, one one of their planks was not to waste money on the wall. That's democracy for ya. The people donn't want to pay for the wall, Trump does. Who should prevail? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30891 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Who should prevail?Pitchforks on Pennsylvania Avenue. Film at 11! |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19291 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
True but Trump has veto power Pelosi does not, she can't shut down the government. Trump has shut it down. Do Republicans on the hill support the wall? Sep 20, 2017 |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19291 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19291 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Do Republicans on the hill support the wall? I bet they only did that so they can say to Trump "We supported you" knowing full well the Democrats were going to carry the bill. Dec. 21, 2018 |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11406 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I bet they only did that so they can say to Trump "We supported you" knowing full well the Democrats were going to carry the bill. The people spoke in the midterms. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36176 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Compromise by both sides will be more imperative. But I do not see either the Democrat's or Trump compromising.The thing is Clyde that the Dem's and the Rep's have approved the bill to avoid the shutdown (refer to 1 of my early posts), but Trump owns this shutdown and has vetoed it. That is until the Dem's takeover the house, from what I hear (and understand), from more informed sources here (by those who understand its corrupt ways over there) that veto can then be overturned? But when does that happen? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30891 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Compromise by both sides will be more imperative. But I do not see either the Democrat's or Trump compromising.The thing is Clyde that the Dem's and the Rep's have approved the bill to avoid the shutdown (refer to 1 of my early posts), but Trump owns this shutdown and has vetoed it. No veto can't be overturned. GOPers still will have the Senate and many GOPers votes would be required in the Senate to overturn. However it was the Senate that passed a no wall bill nearly unanimous so that may not matter. Over in the House, the GOPers "freedom caucus" demands a wall and would never vote to overturn the veto. Even though there will be a democrat majority in the house, there will not be a democrat super-majority 2/3 needed to overturn, so some GOPers would be needed. "freedom caucus" will do everything it can to ensure slavery of the American people and force GOPers, who aren't in the caucus, to vote no. Much nastier would be for the House (where all spending bills should start) to pass a wall funder linked with creating new tax brackets with increasing rates, say $1M, $5M, $10M, $25M, $50M, $100M ... each going up by 10% until they get to a 90% tax rate. Call it the Rump wall and funding for the Rump wall bill. Let Rump veto that, but Rump won't sign Norquist! so it might work. <ed>However there never was a veto. House and Senate never agreed on a bill so none was sent to Rump to either sign or veto. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Speak of the devil:) Trump dominated Swedish media in 2018 - more so than PM Löfven https://www.svt.se/kultur/medier/trump-dominerade-svenska-medier-2018-mer-omtalad-an-lofven The interest in Donald Trump overshadowed everything else in Swedish media in 2018. During the year, the American president was more covered than Prime Minister Stefan Löfven and Moderate leader Ulf Kristersson together. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24903 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It seems nothing has been learnt in 42 years. Just a case of Wash, Rinse, Repeat every 4 years. Nice government. What do you Yanks prefer? Regular P***Ups or Orgies? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30891 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
BTW: You will notice that I did not include the Republicans. Who already passed (compromised) a bill regarding funding for border security. They did not. The Republican controlled House of Representatives, lead by the "House Freedom Caucus" forced its rejection. Bill was never sent to POTUS. All this because of loud mouth conservative radio hosts. Get your facts straight or be fake news. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Trump, for bad and good. Is neither a Washington politician nor a true Republican.Hehe:) Trump is like an actor. Trying to be like John Wayne. Obviously Trump fail on all accounts. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Geez. Now Trump have problems like Obama had! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1079497288605683712 President and Mrs. Obama built/has a ten foot Wall around their D.C. mansion/compound. I agree, totally necessary for their safety and security. The U.S. needs the same thing, slightly larger version! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30891 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
BTW: You will notice that I did not include the Republicans. Who already passed (compromised) a bill regarding funding for border security. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/politics/government-shutdown-threat.html Dec. 19, 2018 House Freedom Caucus blocked it and shut the government down! Get your facts straight. |
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