What garbage! Nothing to do with the point raised by Moomin.

A White House job is never easy, but this administration has chewed through senior staff at a record pace. Donald Trump is on his third national security adviser, fifth communications director and soon to be third chief of staff.

Quite amazing...

Trump is Trump :(

Unfortunately for the Never Trumper's. Still nothing publicly released which would specifically link Trump with the knowledge of what funds Cohen used.

Excepting to Right Wing Religious Fanatics and those that support their beliefs. There is no criminality regarding a private citizen paying for silence regarding sexual encounters.

Lying under oath regarding sexual encounters as President Bill Clinton did, or any private citizen would do, is criminal.

Unless you believe, as Bill Clinton said, oral sex is not really sex :-D

August 23, 2018: During a Fox & Friends interview Trump stated that the payment funds came from him personally.

Another one bites the dust

Add another one to that list.
Nick Ayers, Trump’s once-likely replacement for chief of staff John Kelly, won’t take the job

Nick Ayers announced Sunday that he is leaving the White House and will not be President Trump’s next chief of staff

Unless you believe, as Bill Clinton said, oral sex is not really sex :-D

Unless as a former police officer you believe when given a list of sex acts and oral sex is left off and then asked under oath if you did anything on the list, you think a yes is required.

Maybe Elizabeth Ray is available?

August 23, 2018: During a Fox & Friends interview Trump stated that the payment funds came from him personally.

Correct. A private citizen paying with their money for silence regarding sexual activities, is not a crime.

Correct, but he wasn't a private citizen at the time, he was a candidate, so that was a contribution used to further a political campaign, hence a use of campaign funds, a crime if not reported, also a crime when sworn to by the candidate, and since it was his own money impossible to deny so perjury as well.

Does Duncan Hunter give you an idea of what comes next for rump?

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Trump was a private citizen running for a Government Office

A candidate has different rules than a private citizen, that's the law regardless of your unfounded opinion.

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#1 - Please state the law regarding Muller's memo and personal money used.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/07/government-implicates-trump-trump-campaign-federal-campaign-finance-law-violations/?utm_term=.4ce08d8c1beb

#2 - Can you point out in Muller's redacted memo where it specifically states that Trump knew where the money came from.

That is not the point of my post, read what is posted and don't insert your fabrications.

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Trump was a private citizen running for a Government Office

A candidate has different rules than a private citizen, that's the law regardless of your unfounded opinion.

One could expect a former police officer might know the law, but than again from what we see in the law enforcement thread, apparently that isn't a requite to be a police officer. A very sad commentary on America :(

Please quote where in Muller's redacted memo is Trump specifically referenced regarding either knowledge of or ordering Campaign Funds to be used.

That doesn't exist so stop deflecting

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Just like Trump, always screaming winning B.S. even as they're losing big time whilst really not having a clue on what people are actually talking about. ;-)

+12

Please quote where in Muller's redacted memo is Trump specifically referenced regarding either knowledge of or ordering Campaign Funds to be used.

That doesn't exist so stop deflecting

Anything spent to further the campaign is automatically Campaign Funds! 11 CFR 113.1(a) A payment of hush money does not qualify as personal use 11 CFR 113.1(g) Mr. Cohen's bank account is not the personal funds of Donald Trump 11 CFR 113.1(a) and 11 CFR 113.1(g)(6)

Clyde needs to read Title 11 Code of Federal Regulations.

Oh, it is the Southern District of NY's memo for Cohen

On approximately June 16, 2015, Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began
an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States. Cohen had no formal title
with the campaign, but had a campaign email address, and, at various times advised the campaign,
including on matters of interest to the press. Cohen also made media appearances as a surrogate
and supporter of Individual-1.
During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the
rights to stories – each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 – so as
to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to
both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen
coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings
and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. In particular, and
as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with
and at the direction of Individual-1.

<ed>It is the Mueller memo for Flynn that is redacted, the Mueller memo for Cohen has no redactions.

poor Clyde, wants someone to quote from a memo that is about a different person so he can make a point

sorry Clyde Mueller doesn't do campaign finance, Southern District of NY does campaign finance

or are you trying to say the Russians paid off the women?

#2 - Understanding that Trump's admission of where the funds came from may be false.

Then why did Trump make a statement on Monday repeating that he paid the monies Along with his mistaken belief that he was a "private citizen" and it had nothing to do with protecting his reputation during a Presidential campaign.

December 10 at 9:50 AM

President Trump asserted Monday that payments to buy the silence of two women about alleged affairs were not illegal campaign contributions, as federal prosecutors contend, but instead a “simple private transaction.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-payments-to-silence-women-were-a-simple-private-transaction-not-illegal-campaign-contributions/2018/12/10/e1b198c2-fc6b-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html?utm_term=.c9999bca1206

Tsk, tsk, tsk Gary,

Again your need to personalize an attack to deflect from facts.

As you asked me if I had read Mueller's Memo and I replied by disagreeing with you about what it said.

No, I asked you if you had read the transcripts of the conversations Cohen had with Mueller and his staff. Those being the only documents which would show what Mr. Cohen has provided in detail. Unless you had read them you have no knowledge of what Mr. Cohen may have provided in the Russia matter. The payments to the women are not Mueller's case, they are a case of the Southern District of NY.
You seem to wish to confuse, conflate, obfuscate and make straw mountains at every opportunity.

I did not ask you about this unredacted public document, which does not have specifics as I knew it would not have specifics as the matter is still under active investigation!
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5453422-Mueller-Cohen-Sentencing-Memo.html

The defendant’s assistance has been useful in four significant respects. First, the defendant
provided information about his own contacts with Russian interests during the campaign and
discussions with others in the course of making those contacts. For example, and as described
above, the defendant provided a detailed account of his involvement and the involvement of others
in the Moscow Project, and also corrected the record concerning his outreach to the Russian
government during the week of the United Nations General Assembly. The defendant also
provided information about attempts by other Russian nationals to reach the campaign. For
example, in or around November 2015, Cohen received the contact information for, and spoke
with, a Russian national who claimed to be a “trusted person” in the Russian Federation who could
offer the campaign “political synergy” and “synergy on a government level.” The defendant
recalled that this person repeatedly proposed a meeting between Individual 1 and the President of
Russia. The person told Cohen that such a meeting could have a “phenomenal” impact “not only
in political but in a business dimension as well,” referring to the Moscow Project, because there is
“no bigger warranty in any project than consent of [the President of Russia].” Cohen, however,
did not follow up on this invitation.3
Second, Cohen provided the SCO with useful information concerning certain discrete
Russia-related matters core to its investigation that he obtained by virtue of his regular contact
with Company executives during the campaign.
Third, Cohen provided relevant and useful information concerning his contacts with
persons connected to the White House during the 2017–2018 time period.
Fourth, Cohen described the circumstances of preparing and circulating his response to the
congressional inquiries, while continuing to accept responsibility for the false statements contained
within it.

#2 - Understanding that Trump's admission of where the funds came from may be false.

Then why did Trump make a statement on Monday repeating that he paid the monies Along with his mistaken belief that he was a "private citizen" and it had nothing to do with protecting his reputation during a Presidential campaign.

December 10 at 9:50 AM

President Trump asserted Monday that payments to buy the silence of two women about alleged affairs were not illegal campaign contributions, as federal prosecutors contend, but instead a “simple private transaction.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-payments-to-silence-women-were-a-simple-private-transaction-not-illegal-campaign-contributions/2018/12/10/e1b198c2-fc6b-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html?utm_term=.c9999bca1206

Donald Trump, as a private citizen (a person who is not holding public office*) attempting to become President of the United States (a public office), says he paid a person to remain silent about sexual activities with his personal funds.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT
Per Title 11 USC a person seeking office is no longer a private person they are a candidate. If the candidate purchases a meal for himself, that is campaign funds, unless and until proven otherwise.

Clyde's mistake is assuming that government office holder is the only classification besides private citizen.

Best Xmas present for the USA: Hilary Clinton. :-)

Maybe Elizabeth Ray is available?

Things look to be heating up even further for the World's Greatest Loser.

Trump can't ignore the Mueller investigation now that a Russian is behind bars.

The Russia 16: Damning list of Trump associates who had contact with Russians.

Trump concerned about being impeached, sees it as a 'real possibility,' source says.

Meanwhile Trump is getting very worried about a “Smocking Gun”, but he'd probably look good in a smock anyway.

In the meantime we'll probably hear more screaming tweets about witch hunts as well as other "Fake Trump News" on how well he's losing winning in his own mind.

ROFLMFAO!!!!!