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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
You have 12 threads, so give it a try :D Looking screen..... DUH....... Uh......... A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
EdwardPF Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 389 Credit: 236,772,605 RAC: 374 |
After making the changes, did you do a project update from the manager? Otherwise, they won't take affect until Boinc makes a scheduler contact. Yup ... still not standing still ... hummmm ... Ed F Edit: Currently running 8.05 and it displays the same way Edit2: it also ignores the "number of stars" |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
After making the changes, did you do a project update from the manager? Otherwise, they won't take affect until Boinc makes a scheduler contact. Maybe they were "born to shimmy"? :) A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
After making the changes, did you do a project update from the manager? Otherwise, they won't take affect until Boinc makes a scheduler contact. Those parameters a passed to the app in init_data.xml (which is in 'slots') <format_preset>Custom</format_preset> <text_style>Pillars</text_style> <graph_style>Surface</graph_style> <max_cpu>10</max_cpu> <grow_time>10</grow_time> <hold_time>5</hold_time> <graph_alpha>0.7</graph_alpha> <roll_period>0</roll_period> <roll_range>0</roll_range> <pitch_period>0</pitch_period> <pitch_range>0</pitch_range> <starfield_size>0</starfield_size> <starfield_speed>0</starfield_speed> <color_preset>Rainbow</color_preset> <start_hue>0</start_hue> <hue_change>1</hue_change> This means the task/app need to be restarted to know of the change, e.g. by: - Snooze / unSnooze - Start another task - Restart BOINC Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
We're not testing with the screensaver, but with the standalone graphics window. Just select a Running CPU task (isn't that obvious?) From memory there is an option during install to use BOINC graphics or not and I am rather sure that I chose "not". BOINC screensaver is always installed. (in BOINC install directory and in Windows directory) So you can see "BOINC" in the list of Windows screensavers. The question "during install to use BOINC graphics" only changes (or not) the Setting in Windows about which screensaver to be used. SETI@home screensaver (setigraphics_X.yy_windows_intelx86.exe) comes with the CPU applications (i.e. is Downloaded automatically by BOINC) SETI@home screensaver is started directly by "Show Graphics" or the BOINC screensaver starts SETI@home screensaver. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . OK, another D'oh! moment for me. I guess expectations can lead a person down the proverbial garden path. Knowing I had selected the "not" option during install, and having a task selected in the task window (but not a running one) I was not surprised to find the button greyed out and looked no further ... :( my bad . . So now the box is running the graphic which seems rather uninformative to me. I guess if something interesting occurs there will be a big spike in the middle of the 3D graph?? The downside is that since the servers see fit to not send me any work I will probably be shutting down all boxes very soon, they are all either out of GPU work or very close to it ...( Stephen :( |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
. . So now the box is running the graphic which seems rather uninformative to me. I guess if something interesting occurs there will be a big spike in the middle of the 3D graph?? From top menu here: Science -> About SETI@home -> Screensaver graphics explained http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/screensaver/index.html The graph do not show all the calculations, maybe one in 1000 or 10 000 (?) else the computing will be too slow. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . So now the box is running the graphic which seems rather uninformative to me. I guess if something interesting occurs there will be a big spike in the middle of the 3D graph?? . . This is very interesting, I am seated at a different computer and I tried to activate the graphic display on this machine to go through the explanation but the 'show graphic' button on this machine remains greyed out despite selecting a running task. Oh well. Stephen ?? |
EdwardPF Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 389 Credit: 236,772,605 RAC: 374 |
This means the task/app need to be restarted to know of the change, e.g. by: Did all and graphics still sway to and fro ... as I said in 8.5 and in current test. I assume the problem s me but I don't see how. Hummm Ed F |
Darrell Send message Joined: 14 Mar 03 Posts: 267 Credit: 1,418,681 RAC: 0 |
This means the task/app need to be restarted to know of the change, e.g. by: I don't think it is you. The problem is either Boinc is not passing the correct values via the init_data.xml file, or there is a problem in the graphics routine. Right now, all SetiBeta is giving me is GPU tasks, but the preference values are still passed in the init_data.xml file, so I lean towards the problem being in the graphics routines not reading them correctly. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Did all and graphics still sway to and fro ... Check if init_data.xml have: <roll_period>0</roll_period> <roll_range>0</roll_range> <pitch_period>0</pitch_period> <pitch_range>0</pitch_range> If not (and you already Restarted BOINC) - you may have home / school / work Preferences and you changed the wrong "Location" Or you have/see another account in the browser (e.g. of friend) and changed that. Or you changed Preferences here and not at SETI@home BETA Look in file account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml and account_setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu_beta.xml for the same 4 rows above - do they have 0s Watch also for line like this: <venue name="school"> This shows there exist "Separate preferences for school" Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
but the 'show graphic' button on this machine remains greyed out despite selecting a running task It have to be: Running SETI@home CPU Stock i.e. Not GPU and Not optimized (e.g. AVX or SSE3 apps don't have graphics) Check in Windows Task Manager what .exe is actually Running  - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)  |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
but the 'show graphic' button on this machine remains greyed out despite selecting a running task . . Hi BilBg, . . Again you have provided the answer, this machine is running AVX :) Stephen :) |
EdwardPF Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 389 Credit: 236,772,605 RAC: 374 |
Watch also for line like this: B I N G O o.k. so it was "<venue name="home">" Good help!! Thanks I had no idea I was using anything other than "default" over on beta Thanks again!! ED F BTY it works fine! |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Still getting good graphics on both "select a task" displays of 8.07(alt) and via screen saver under Windows 7 with 3 different cpus. A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Well, if the same rule applies as it did for the 8.06(alt) I would say the testing has been passed so I will be shutting down my SetiBeta. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
I just noticed that we are now crunching v8.08(alt) apparently there is something else we are testing for. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I just noticed that we are now crunching v8.08(alt) apparently there is something else we are testing for. Intel iGPU issues displaying the graphics. This latest version appears to have sorted them. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Let's see how long it takes before it pass 8.05. Less than 2 weeks, more than 1 week. Some where around there I reckon... Edit- it's already up to 186, and 8.05 has also increased slightly. Maybe it can do it in under a week. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Does anyone have a copy of the new CPU executable to download for 32bit OSs? I've got Lunatics installed on my old C2D, this new application is much faster than the older one for that hardware. I'm guessing I just need the executable in the Seti project directory, and change all the references in app_info.xml from the present one to the new one & it should work? No other files required (it uses the existing ones?) Grant Darwin NT |
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