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Message 1856548 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 10:48:40 UTC - in response to Message 1856544.  

Unfortunately... They are, what they are.

Do you know what you are?
You are what you is
You is what you am
(A cow don't make ham. . .)
You ain't what you're not
So see what you got
You are what you is
An' that's all it 'tis
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Message 1856559 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 11:16:09 UTC - in response to Message 1856553.  

This Pro Tolerance, Pro Women's Rights, Pro LGBTQ (including Cross Dressing), Pro Worker (Workers of the World Unite...), Believer in Giving Amnesty to ALL Non-Criminal Illegal Aliens.
Anti Oppressive Nazi, KKK, Right Wing (not including Conservatives), Mega Global Capitalist, Marxists, Progressives, Left Wing (not including Liberals).
Is exactly what?

Why so many labels when most people are sort of mix of all of them?
Maybe I could agree to something in the KKK manifest...
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Message 1856566 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 11:37:16 UTC - in response to Message 1856560.  
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Sorry you believe in making excuses for the KKK,

I didn't. I have not read and have no intention to read the KKK manifest.
But as always there are things in extreme organisations manifests that too many find appealing.
Even Daesh's manifest where you can find some sense.
Very few I might add:)
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Message 1856575 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 12:14:22 UTC

This one should hit ya.
Right in your liberal arses.
God bless and keep ya, all.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1856590 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 13:36:25 UTC

#1 - The Nazi's and Marxists are Mass Murdering and Enslaving Movements. No moral and ethical person would site any few beliefs they may agree with.

It is morally correct and necessary to define the above, in their totality, as Just Hate.


No, much to simplistic and misses the whole history and possibly much darker reasons.

Whilst I do not know much about Marxism, I have been interested in Hitler and his rise and fall and how one people could have murdered 6,000,000 others

Everything I have read or seen points to the belief of the "superiority" of the Third Reich, they didn't have to hate as they felt they were superior to the Jews (and many others) and felt the Jews were little more than animals, cattle.

So disposing of them was not in hate but superiority, using phrases like, "the world will thank us".

I have seen and read accounts from surviving German soldiers, who when asked if they felt it wrong to kill women and children, they said, they were subhuman, less than animals and deserved to die.

I think the most chilling film I have ever seen is Conspiracy, the drama about the Wansee conference. Why? Because for a reason I cannot explain, I believe the way it was portrayed was very close to the truth, the utter disdain of the higher rank Nazis for the Jews is to me real.

To me this is much more frighting and evil than hate.

So dismissing it all as just "hate" misses the point.
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Message 1856592 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 13:49:39 UTC - in response to Message 1856590.  
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I think the most chilling film I have ever seen is Conspiracy, the drama about the Wansee conference. Why? Because for a reason I cannot explain, I believe the way it was portrayed was very close to the truth, the utter disdain of the higher rank Nazis for the Jews is to me real..

Still get me the chills:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWLvq0jC-c0
It's from my understanding that the TV drama is closely true from the transcripts from the Wansee conference.
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Message 1856593 - Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 13:50:11 UTC - in response to Message 1856590.  
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... I have been interested in Hitler and his rise and fall and how one people could have murdered 6,000,000 others...


Also this is only the Jewish victims; there were about five million more as well (Soviet POWs, Poles, Serbs, Gypsies/Romani, LGBTQ people, handicapped people...)
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Message 1856912 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 21:18:48 UTC - in response to Message 1856896.  

Any Secular ... total evil.
I thought you said you were an atheist? Secular and Evil together? You have to be a theist.
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Message 1856916 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 21:31:14 UTC - in response to Message 1856544.  

kittyman...

No moral and ethical person should take personally. Any attack from those with darkness in their hearts. Please understand that any attacks from these types, is a 'Badge of Honor'.

Just allow them to spew their 'thinking', and their use of curses to expose themselves. Replying every now and then. Hoping they will acknowledge that they are what they attack,

Unfortunately... They are, what they are.


So Clyde this person that's spews there thinking and uses curses would like to know from the Rabbi what you make of my thread and you Mark what are your thoughts on that thread I'm going to say your totally shocked and totally dismissive of the whole thing . How's the spew thinking cursing loud person from the place where everything is upside down got it right your totally shocked !! :)

I is what I is hehehehehe
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Message 1856921 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 21:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 1856912.  

I thought you said you were an atheist? Secular and Evil together? You have to be a theist.


I tried to explain the difference between secular governments (religiously neutral) and atheistic governments (religiously antagonistic) but it doesn't seem to have had an effect.

The fact that the United States is a secular nation doesn't seem to have either. Ah well.
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Message 1856931 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 22:33:48 UTC - in response to Message 1856921.  

I thought you said you were an atheist? Secular and Evil together? You have to be a theist.


I tried to explain the difference between secular governments (religiously neutral) and atheistic governments (religiously antagonistic) but it doesn't seem to have had an effect.

The fact that the United States is a secular nation doesn't seem to have either. Ah well.

In some people their belief is so strong it overrides reality. I think they have a word for that. Delusion if I'm not mistaken.
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Message 1856934 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 22:36:35 UTC - in response to Message 1856931.  

In some people their belief is so strong it overrides reality. I think they have a word for that. Delusion if I'm not mistaken.


Well, I wouldn't call it that. :^(

Stubborn, maybe?
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Message 1856937 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 22:51:00 UTC

If your a man of science and believe in String theory & a multiverse then maths says there may actually be a God only it's not the God of fire and brimstone and can only have small effects if any on our plain of existence . So is science a religion ? even thou we think we can prove what science says !!

agnostic
1.a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
synonyms: sceptic, doubter, questioner, doubting Thomas, challenger, scoffer, cynic

atheistic
disbelieving or lacking belief in the existence of God.
"the leaders of scientific thought are overwhelmingly atheistic in their beliefs"
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Message 1856940 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 23:20:22 UTC - in response to Message 1856937.  

So is science a religion ?

In some sense it is.
How many of us can say that physical theorists are right?
It always come down to us.
Some like the religious approach other don't.
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Message 1856943 - Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 23:33:09 UTC - in response to Message 1856940.  

So is science a religion ?

In some sense it is.
How many of us can say that physical theorists are right?
It always come down to us.
Some like the religious approach other don't.


This isn't entirely correct. Just because not all of us understand the science to say if a scientist is right or wrong, doesn't mean the information isn't out there and falsifiable. The same holds true for any other field of interest. I may not know how to architect a building, but I don't have to have faith in the architect who did. I only need to trust that they knew what they were doing and there were enough safeguards in place to ensure it would be done right. Sometimes that trust is misplaced, but that's still not an act of faith.
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Message 1856947 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 0:18:25 UTC - in response to Message 1856937.  

So is science a religion ?

No, and cannot be, because the first thing scientist do is to say "don't believe that new theory" and then try to disprove it.
And if scientists were religious about their sciences then "The theory of biological evolution" would have been made into "Darwin's Law" many years ago.
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Message 1856966 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 4:28:42 UTC - in response to Message 1856947.  

And if scientists were religious about their sciences then "The theory of biological evolution" would have been made into "Darwin's Law" many years ago.


Biological Evolution is part of Darwin's theory it's a subcategory so is Convergent evolution , Co-evolution & Adaptive radiation
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