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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Seeing the pictures of the fallen and connecting it to sports is an absolute and complete disgrace to their memories. You're stiiillllll not reeeading! Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Next thing you know, you Borg will be demanding we pledge the flag and sing the anthem before a movie. Then, whenever 2 or more US citizens are gathered. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
You're stiiillllll not reeeading! So clarify, after all you are a teacher & your pupil does not understand. how much do you want to bet few to one no one's thinking of the country or the military when they stand and sing the anthem. So what are they thinking of? Some wally woofer going to make a political statement or their team ready to kick some ass? |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Next thing you know, you Borg will be demanding we pledge the flag and sing the anthem before a movie. Then, whenever 2 or more US citizens are gathered. Well then you better get on board as "Resistance is Futile" as we borg say |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I am much less concerned about their last revolution than I am Trump doesn't know what a ladder is when he built that wall. In fact he doesn't know how to stop immigrants in any means. Who does? Oops. There is BIG difference by immigrants and refugees! |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
You're stiiillllll not reeeading! The latter, which has nothing to do with the Nation. They're whipped into a frenzy. Just like Winston and Julia were against whomever Big Brother said they were currently at war against. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
So using a sports arena to incite war & political statements is okay then. Gordon Bennett, what are you teaching your students? |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
sarge that is one hell of a leap . To associate 1984 with 1 sportsman holding his fist up in protest It's also a good example of why we in the Colony's laugh at you lot You all ways go to the extreme left when it comes to Freedom but the extreme right is ok hence 60,000 direct deaths from guns . To blind to see the problem . Because to do away with guns is to infringe on your rights .what about the right not to get shot ? |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
hears one for you sarge seeing as you used 1984 how about The Hunger Games as a example . Didn't Katniss Everdeen raise her hand during the games . Was the sportsman wrong I say NO |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30653 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Sarge, they don't understand. They will never understand. But they are both subjects of the Queen! That makes their brains think different. If you the NFL or baseball or whatever are going to play the anthem and/or recite the pledge then you should have your employees observe the flag code as part of their job duties. NFL or baseball or whatever are being played in a taxpayer funded venue and they have special breaks, monopoly black-out rules or the like in legislation. Two way street. But it is voluntary, the government has no business forcing people to do it (except at a naturalization ceremony.) Mr. Kapernick is free to burn a flag if he wants. The NFL might have a rule against that. Society has a rule against causing a panic and a rule against arson. But if he doesn't violate those he can burn as many flags as he wants. He can use the flag to wipe his bum if he wants. The only thing he has to bear is what others think of him for his actions, er words, and if those words are "fighting words." Sarge, I see your point about wrapping a sporting event in the flag. Unfortunately it seems to be a long tradition of businesses to wrap themselves in the flag for their profit motive. Again, the government has no right to say no to them. Be it President's day sale or 4th of July flag fest advertisements. You can't mandate good taste. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
So Gary when is a sportsman not on the clock to do what you say he can do if he so wishes . A sportsman paid big money is never off the clock so once again you show a right wing fascist attitude . Oh the government can't tell you what to do but hey get the person to sign a big money contract and you own him . mmm only evil people promote freedom then come up with a way to take that freedom away |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Gary sarge what no comment about my Hunger Games post . Your willing to use 1984 but reject the Hunger Games !! why is that I wonder |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
So Gary when is a sportsman not on the clock to do what you say he can do if he so wishes . Yep we will decide and where hurts the most. Har! =(_8^(1) "nfl losing sponsors over a kneeling during the us national anthem" http://www.bing.com/search?q=nfl+losing+sponsors+over+a+kneeling+during+the+us+national+anthem&FORM=AWRE ... |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Gary sarge what no comment about my Hunger Games post . lame... ... |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19065 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
In my view national emblems and anthems should not be used at sporting events unless it is a international competition. Sports and politics should be separate, except, of course, they never can be. And let us not forget in a lot of team sports the participants are mercenaries, they are only there for the money and the inflation of their ego's. They have no allegiance to anybody or anything except their beliefs. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30653 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
So Gary when is a sportsman not on the clock to do what you say he can do if he so wishes . NFL rule, for 90 min before to after the game the only logo headphones a player may wear ... can't wear the competition's brand after the NFL signs a deal to promote one brand. But what you do at home is your business. Oh, if they are never off the clock then that is 24hr employment and that is illegal. Take that to the labor commissioner and they would be due so much overtime pay ... so why hasn't some shyster tried this? Maybe because they are off the clock? Sorry you know so little about how things are here. Oh the government can't tell you what to do but hey get the person to sign a big money contract and you own him . How many little people working for the xyz co get fired for damaging the company's reputation on social media? Say posting racist comments and in some other post saying who they work for? and having the company friended? Sorry you know so little about the world. Look up the right of association. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Next thing you know, you Borg will be demanding we pledge the flag and sing the anthem before a movie. Then, whenever 2 or more US citizens are gathered. I don't know how it is now in the US Military, But when I served from 72 to 80. When at a movie on base you stood while the anthem was played. On a personnel level, I could never disrespect fellow veterans by not standing and showing respect. But as a veteran, Its the rights that those in the past, Present and in the future, Who have, Are and Will fight for. Give you the right to protest. [/quote] Old James |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34772 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
My view is that we are the freest nation on Earth, I couldn't have said it better Ian. (Y) Cheers. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Sarge, they don't understand. They will never understand. But they are both subjects of the Queen! That makes their brains think different. But of course we're different. We're foreigners in a foreign land. The difference is that foreigners here do not have to take an oath of allegiance. That wally woofer raising his fist only continues to incite racial hatred. Don't worry Glenn, Yanks are wired up totally different to the rest of the world. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Nice one BBC. There's always 2 sides of any issue. Some interesting points in the following report. Too strong, too black ""It was just playing on my mind, I was like, '[Kaepernick's] worth $60m and he took a knee to risk it all for people like me, for people like the students that I see every single day,'" says Brown." Ah but will he ever take a risk like yours coach Brown, or is he like many others regardless of colour - be a shyte & take the money & run! |
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