>>> snip - Stone throwers are not a threat to life.

I saw 'stone throwers' differently and pointed to a source to try and show they can be and are deadly.

Some cultures still stone people to death by throwing stones at them.

Knowing this I had trouble understanding you.

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humans will kill.

Easy access to guns isn't helping.

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>>> snip - Stone throwers are not a threat to life.

I saw 'stone throwers' differently and pointed to a source to try and show they can be and are deadly.
Some cultures still stone people to death by throwing stones at them.
Knowing this I had trouble understanding you.

I read your source.
In our country policemen look like this when meeting stone throwers.
Seems very odd to me that you could be hurt by a stone beeing dressed like that.

As you can see our police are only using batoons, aiming no guns.

>>> snip - Stone throwers are not a threat to life.

I saw 'stone throwers' differently and pointed to a source to try and show they can be and are deadly.
Some cultures still stone people to death by throwing stones at them.
Knowing this I had trouble understanding you.

I read your source.
In our country policemen look like this when meeting stone throwers.
Seems very odd to me that you could be hurt by a stone beeing dressed like that.

As you can see our police are only using batoons, aiming no guns.

ML1 wrote:

If you are in an environment where you 'need to have a gun'...

Which supplies the context which has been snipped in the quotes.

It isn't just guns. As long as there are crazy people with hate, there will be killings. Guns, knives, stones, boomerangs, Molotov cocktails, baseball bats, nerve gas, smallpox, crossbow, atomic bomb, ... Man has spent centuries perfecting the art of killing. Just because the gun happens to be the latest fad to do it efficiently and inexpensively, does not make any and all of the other methods any less deadly.

Now as to those officers, do you as a citizen want to have to walk the street in a helmet, body armor and carrying a shield and baton because that is the environment where you live?

Get rid of the crazy haters. May peace be upon you!

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Now as to those officers, do you as a citizen want to have to walk the street in a helmet, body armor and carrying a shield and baton because that is the environment where you live?
Get rid of the crazy haters. May peace be upon you!

Now I'm bit confused since I only answered the previous poster's link to what is happening in Israel.

Anyway. It's not only in the US that we see these hate crimes.
Perhaps not in the same degree but Europe usually follow trends from the US...
Sorry. The US are also following Europian trends.

Now as to those officers, do you as a citizen want to have to walk the street in a helmet, body armor and carrying a shield and baton because that is the environment where you live?
Get rid of the crazy haters. May peace be upon you!

Now I'm bit confused since I only answered the previous poster's link to what is happening in Israel.

Anyway. It's not only in the US that we see these hate crimes.
Perhaps not in the same degree but Europe usually follow trends from the US...
Sorry. The US are also following Europian trends.

I'm the poster with the link to Israel which you quoted http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78752&postid=1801663

The other poster linked to a device in Wiki.

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Now I'm bit confused since I only answered the previous poster's link to what is happening in Israel.

Anyway. It's not only in the US that we see these hate crimes.
Perhaps not in the same degree but Europe usually follow trends from the US...
Sorry. The US are also following Europian trends.

I'm the poster with the link to Israel which you quoted http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78752&postid=1801663

Yes I know.
Frankly I think it's silly by the Israels to be scared of stone trowers.
They have a police force that could protect theme self that very much like Swedish police can.
Without using brutal force.
Simple question. How old are the stone trowers?

Simple question. How old are the stone trowers?

Life expectancy is not long under the oppression in Gaza, so young. But does that matter or does the strength and accuracy of the person wielding the stone matter more?

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More interesting stuff on same.

Palestinian stone-throwing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_stone-throwing

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Frankly I think it's silly by the Israels to be scared of stone trowers.
They have a police force that could protect theme self that very much like Swedish police can. Without using brutal force.

Sorry I don't understand.

Your police go in gassing them and then beat them into submission with clubs?

Sounds kind of brutal to me but probably semantics and or language differences of what is 'brutal force'.

'Deadly force' would be easier for me to understand.

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Simple question. How old are the stone trowers?

Found this but it's old. Not an easy set of statistics find.

Of the 853 arrested, 18 were aged 12-13 and 255 were 14-15.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-convicts-most-stone-throwing-palestinian-children-right-group-says-1.373807

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-convicts-most-stone-throwing-palestinian-children-right-group-says-1.373807

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More interesting stuff on same.
Palestinian stone-throwing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_stone-throwing

From the wiki.

Stone throwing is not considered a deadly force in most countries: in the West firearms are generally not used in crowd or riot dispersals and proportionality of force is the norm, except where immediate danger to life exists

'Deadly force' would be easier for me to understand...

Of course.
Police and Army in European countries doesn't use deadly force unless it's badly needed.
That the Israeli police cannot handle stone throwing and sling shooting teenagers is beyond me...
Oh I forgot. David and Goliath!

More interesting stuff on same.
Palestinian stone-throwing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_stone-throwing

From the wiki.

Stone throwing is not considered a deadly force in most countries: in the West firearms are generally not used in crowd or riot dispersals and proportionality of force is the norm, except where immediate danger to life exists

And that is germane to the issue in the USA of cop on black violence. In Gaza we know each side thinks the other subhuman and are racist. Since the result in the USA is the same, many dead and unarmed or less than lethal and young blacks, it is not wrong to hypothesize that police are racist in the USA in practice. As Fraternal Orders of Police find nothing wrong with these actions and in fact support them it also is not wrong to assume this racist attitude is near universal. Fortunately the people are not as blind as they once were to having wool pulled over their eyes. Racist attitudes must be expunged from government officials.

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To all you supporters and fans the US gun culture, Read This;Paramedic posts powerful image revealing the bloody reality of shootings in America

Warning: Graphic content. Frustrated paramedic posts image following spate of shootings in US

To all you supporters and fans the US gun culture, Read This;Paramedic posts powerful image revealing the bloody reality of shootings in America

Warning: Graphic content. Frustrated paramedic posts image following spate of shootings in US

Point?

Your Culture is still infected with a belief in your superior culture. Whether against Black Africans, Asians, 'Arabs', Irish, et al, in the past. Or The US today.

It is really the same. The only difference, is your present military inability to enforce your will.

As you. We, as everyone, have many cultural faults. First try changing your culture (good luck).

BTW: I do understand you will deny. But it is very difficult for those living in their culture. To understand that the small variations, over the generations, really mean nothing.

You really do have some half baked ideas.
If you take the time to read it you will find this article is from your culture NOT mine.
If you cannot take the advise of a person who has chosen to do the cleaning up after these incidents, in your country, then you are beyond saving.

Please oh please post about issues and not about one another.

In the interest of an attempt at free speech, moderators try to moderate posts in Politics "lightly", if at all.

Please oh please don't force us to become heavy-handed.

We don't want that. You don't want that.

Everybody play nice, or please don't play at all.

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Because I grew up as a 'Street Kid' (take a swing at me, and I will hit you with a 2x4)

& there lies the problem.

Because I grew up as a 'Street Kid' (take a swing at me, and I will hit you with a 2x4)

& there lies the problem.

+1

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Because I grew up as a 'Street Kid' (take a swing at me, and I will hit you with a 2x4)

& there lies the problem.

Ban Lumber!!

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