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j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
>>> snip - Stone throwers are not a threat to life. I saw 'stone throwers' differently and pointed to a source to try and show they can be and are deadly. Some cultures still stone people to death by throwing stones at them. Knowing this I had trouble understanding you. ... |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
humans will kill. Easy access to guns isn't helping. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
>>> snip - Stone throwers are not a threat to life. I read your source. In our country policemen look like this when meeting stone throwers. Seems very odd to me that you could be hurt by a stone beeing dressed like that. As you can see our police are only using batoons, aiming no guns. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
>>> snip - Stone throwers are not a threat to life. ML1 wrote: If you are in an environment where you 'need to have a gun'... Which supplies the context which has been snipped in the quotes. It isn't just guns. As long as there are crazy people with hate, there will be killings. Guns, knives, stones, boomerangs, Molotov cocktails, baseball bats, nerve gas, smallpox, crossbow, atomic bomb, ... Man has spent centuries perfecting the art of killing. Just because the gun happens to be the latest fad to do it efficiently and inexpensively, does not make any and all of the other methods any less deadly. Now as to those officers, do you as a citizen want to have to walk the street in a helmet, body armor and carrying a shield and baton because that is the environment where you live? Get rid of the crazy haters. May peace be upon you! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Now as to those officers, do you as a citizen want to have to walk the street in a helmet, body armor and carrying a shield and baton because that is the environment where you live? Now I'm bit confused since I only answered the previous poster's link to what is happening in Israel. Anyway. It's not only in the US that we see these hate crimes. Perhaps not in the same degree but Europe usually follow trends from the US... Sorry. The US are also following Europian trends. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Now as to those officers, do you as a citizen want to have to walk the street in a helmet, body armor and carrying a shield and baton because that is the environment where you live? I'm the poster with the link to Israel which you quoted http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78752&postid=1801663 The other poster linked to a device in Wiki. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Now I'm bit confused since I only answered the previous poster's link to what is happening in Israel. Yes I know. Frankly I think it's silly by the Israels to be scared of stone trowers. They have a police force that could protect theme self that very much like Swedish police can. Without using brutal force. Simple question. How old are the stone trowers? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Simple question. How old are the stone trowers? Life expectancy is not long under the oppression in Gaza, so young. But does that matter or does the strength and accuracy of the person wielding the stone matter more? |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
More interesting stuff on same. Palestinian stone-throwing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_stone-throwing ... |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Frankly I think it's silly by the Israels to be scared of stone trowers. Sorry I don't understand. Your police go in gassing them and then beat them into submission with clubs? Sounds kind of brutal to me but probably semantics and or language differences of what is 'brutal force'. 'Deadly force' would be easier for me to understand. .. ... |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Simple question. How old are the stone trowers? Found this but it's old. Not an easy set of statistics find. Of the 853 arrested, 18 were aged 12-13 and 255 were 14-15. http://www.haaretz.com/israel-convicts-most-stone-throwing-palestinian-children-right-group-says-1.373807 ... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
More interesting stuff on same. From the wiki. Stone throwing is not considered a deadly force in most countries: in the West firearms are generally not used in crowd or riot dispersals and proportionality of force is the norm, except where immediate danger to life exists |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
'Deadly force' would be easier for me to understand... Of course. Police and Army in European countries doesn't use deadly force unless it's badly needed. That the Israeli police cannot handle stone throwing and sling shooting teenagers is beyond me... Oh I forgot. David and Goliath! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
More interesting stuff on same. And that is germane to the issue in the USA of cop on black violence. In Gaza we know each side thinks the other subhuman and are racist. Since the result in the USA is the same, many dead and unarmed or less than lethal and young blacks, it is not wrong to hypothesize that police are racist in the USA in practice. As Fraternal Orders of Police find nothing wrong with these actions and in fact support them it also is not wrong to assume this racist attitude is near universal. Fortunately the people are not as blind as they once were to having wool pulled over their eyes. Racist attitudes must be expunged from government officials. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19114 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
To all you supporters and fans the US gun culture, Read This;Paramedic posts powerful image revealing the bloody reality of shootings in America Warning: Graphic content. Frustrated paramedic posts image following spate of shootings in US |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19114 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
To all you supporters and fans the US gun culture, Read This;Paramedic posts powerful image revealing the bloody reality of shootings in America You really do have some half baked ideas. If you take the time to read it you will find this article is from your culture NOT mine. If you cannot take the advise of a person who has chosen to do the cleaning up after these incidents, in your country, then you are beyond saving. |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13131 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
Please oh please post about issues and not about one another. In the interest of an attempt at free speech, moderators try to moderate posts in Politics "lightly", if at all. Please oh please don't force us to become heavy-handed. We don't want that. You don't want that. Everybody play nice, or please don't play at all. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
& there lies the problem. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30701 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
+1 |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Ban Lumber!! https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
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