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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22227 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Initial reports suggested that a coupler on the train was suspected, but now the suggestion is either a track fault or an issue with a track switch (both of which are more plausible than a train coupler...). And it's not only in Italy where the arguments get underway about "who's to blame" - I'm surprised that the lady with three goats in a field 400km away isn't dragged into the "debate"..... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
It seems like the tracks needs some maintainance. Swedish Erik Moberg who live in Milan was on a train in the opposite direction, and had passed the unlucky train just minutes before the accident. Hmm. Swedish tracks need maintainance as well... |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Italian commuters, who take the local trains, blame the State railways for spending a huge amount of money on the Treni Alta Velocita', like the French Trains Grande Vitesse, and neglecting the local trains, which often depend on local railways. Tullio |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22227 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
and we get the same in the UK with commuters moaning about HS2 "draining" money from their over crowded services. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Woman dies when vehicle drives off dock at Anacortes ferry terminal https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/vehicle-drives-off-dock-at-anacortes-ferry-terminal/ We get one of these every couple of years around here. |
John McCallum Send message Joined: 5 Dec 04 Posts: 877 Credit: 599,458 RAC: 8 |
This is not a new idea where I grew up the bus company did this of course they were two "man" operated driver and clippie Mostly used for newspapers , and the odd parcel that just had to get there "today". Old enough to know better(but)still young enough not to care |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13751 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Talk about lucky. Police say three people rescued 4 nautical miles off the coast of Perth after falling off the back of a boat about 8:00pm on Saturday (AWST) are lucky to be alive. Boaters tread water for three hours in the dark after falling overboard off Perth coast. Grant Darwin NT |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3232 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
News article is updating in real time,,, Train carrying lawmakers to GOP retreat hits truck on tracks, 1 killed A train carrying members of Congress to a Republican retreat in West Virginia slammed into a dump truck on Wednesday, throwing lawmakers from their seats and leaving at least one person dead, officials said. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19093 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
A plane carrying dozens of plumbers was forced to turn back because of toilet problems The incident occurred Saturday morning on a Norwegian Air Shuttle flight with more than 80 plumbing industry workers heading to Munich for a trade event. About 70 plumbers from the Rorkjop company were on the flight, including its chief executive, Frank Olsen. The irony was not lost among the passengers when crew announced the reason for the return to Oslo. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
If ever there was a reason for removing some chaff from the human gene pool........... Man crashes car into Menasha store, steals 12-packs of Bud Light. Nice photo op for him though. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19093 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Reports of train crash in SC, with 2 fatalities. Amtrak crash: Two killed after trains collide in South Carolina A train carrying 147 people has collided with a goods train in the US state of South Carolina, killing at least two people, local police say. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19093 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Reports of train crash in SC, with 2 fatalities. Latest reports say the Amtrak train was on the wrong track. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30690 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Reports of train crash in SC, with 2 fatalities. Last time I checked there wasn't a steering wheel in a train locomotive. So, was the switch signal able to be seen? Was it indicating the actual position of the switch? Was the block signal indicating the future direction for the switch? Or which human was at fault? |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13751 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
So, was the switch signal able to be seen? Was it indicating the actual position of the switch? Was the block signal indicating the future direction for the switch? Or which human was at fault? Yep. There are a lot of questions to be answered. Grant Darwin NT |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30690 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Finally got to see some pictures from some other angles. Looks like the Amtrak engine lifted up and rode the entire length of the first CSX engine and then fell off the side and skidded for a while. Front 10+ feet the the Amtrak engine aren't there. No chance for the crew. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Seem there was signals work in the area. Sources quoted by NBC News said CSX signals in the area had been taken offline to undergo work. Chat on various rail websites seems to suggest the freight was on an auto rack unloading track, and the switch had been left open to the main and for some reason locked that way. The Amtrak train was possibly doing around 60 mph at the point of collision. Withouth knowing how far the freight was from the switch, there are still unknowns |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19093 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Washington Post latest says: The engineer of an Amtrak train sounded his horn for three seconds and eventually hit the emergency brake, slowing the train to 50 mph before it slammed head-on into a freight train near Columbia, S.C., federal investigators said Monday. Sumwalt said officials have confirmed that a signal outage along the rail corridor meant that trains had to be manually directed through the area. He said the outage occurred because of upgrades tied to the installation of PTC. Investigators also are focusing on why a railroad switch was locked in the wrong position, sending the Amtrak train off the main line and onto the side track. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/ntsb-amtrak-engineer-sounded-horn-applied-emergency-brake-in-sc-crash/2018/02/05/902b8df4-0aaf-11e8-95a5-c396801049ef_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories-2_ntsb-740pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.4a6a1de5fecc |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Oooopsie. Drinking and driving do not mix. Suspected drunk driver wedges Lamborghini underneath trailer, police say. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13751 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Not too smart.............. Man steals car, then calls owner for help starting it, police say, He reportedly admitted to the crime and told officers "he knew it was not a good idea to get the vehicle," according to a criminal complaint filed against him. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
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