WinterKnight, you have to accept that people like Clyde are part of those 20-30% of Yanks (still with wild west attitudes and ideals) that don't want change because they're scared of it (and feel really threatened by it) which are holding back the rest of their country from becoming truly civilised, but you'll never change their barbaric, greedy, narrow and selfish thinking. ;-)

Clyde will now try and claim another of his usual hollow victories, again, but most of us here know better, as usual. :-D

Cheers.

Yet at the same time, according to the Washington post database, so far this year there have been 830 killings by police officers. Which is probably twice the official FBI figures, because even they admit they are not complete.

When are the people of the US going to realise their gun policy doesn't work?

You are correct, we need desperately to disarm the police! Your graphic shows why in a shocking manner.

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Clyde will now try and claim another of his usual hollow victories, again, but most of us here know better, as usual. :-D

Cheers.

You do understand that a victory for Clyde is the same as a fisherman who sees a nibble on the line he is trailing from his moving boat.

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Clyde will now try and claim another of his usual hollow victories, again, but most of us here know better, as usual. :-D

Cheers.

You do understand that a victory for Clyde is the same as a fisherman who sees a nibble on the line he is trailing from his moving boat.

Don't most of us?

Cheers.

Clyde will now try and claim another of his usual hollow victories, again, but most of us here know better, as usual. :-D

Cheers.

You do understand that a victory for Clyde is the same as a fisherman who sees a nibble on the line he is trailing from his moving boat.

Unintelligent, unimaginative, and adolescent attacks from Gary, Wiggo and others of their ilk.

Proves that The Left, as I posted: Is 'Running Scared'.

Their attacks do prove my points.

Do they understand? Do they have the capacity to understand?

I do not apologize for my Secular Blasphemy against their beliefs.

Gary... One question.

Would you care if you were attacked by an Intolerant Religious Fanatics?

Why would anyone care if they are attacked by Secular and Intolerant Fanatics?

:) :) :)

That actually doesn't make any sense.

Why? Because you can have secular priests, it just means they are not attached to a particular order, in any religion.

And you should know that, what do you think the 1st is about.

The only people that I see "running scared" are those few old fossils who can't and won't accept change for the better of their fellow human beings.

Nothing at all to do with either left or right, it has to do with those who are just plain selfish and only think of themselves (Clyde being 1 of the obvious examples here). ;-)

Cheers.

Interesting read about the deaths of people where the police have used or misused tasers.

Bolts from the blue warning - it's a long read.

This article concentrates solely on events in the US, I would like to point out that there have also been deaths, at least 10, in the UK from similar actions.

6 year old, at least the 834th person to be killed by American Police this year.

834 murders?

Again you are being silly. But almost certainly not, I doubt if even 10% are murders, but there will be many that will be contentious.
Obviously there are many interpretations. It is up to the inquires to establish whether each killing was legal or not.

But what do you call this case, when the guidelines are that police should not fire at vehicles?

Interesting read about the deaths of people where the police have used or misused tasers.

Bolts from the blue warning - it's a long read.

This article concentrates solely on events in the US, I would like to point out that there have also been deaths, at least 10, in the UK from similar actions.

The Legal use of Physical Force and now Tasers. Has always resulted in some deaths, to individuals with underlying medical conditions, and use of certain illegal and legal drugs.

This is, of course, well understood among Law Enforcement and the Medical Community.

Obviously it isn't that well understood by the Law Enforcement people as can be seen from the table that shows which forces follow/not follow the guidelines. Because if they did they would all follow the guidelines.

Just your typical police officer overseen by your typical internal affairs division ...
http://www.people.com/article/joe-gliniewicz-suicide-hiring-hitman-text-messages

staged his own suicide to cover up alleged "extensive criminal acts" including embezzlement ... discussed hiring a hitman
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officers found small packets of cocaine in his desk that had no connection to any police cases.
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One theory about the drugs was that Gliniewicz was scheming to plant the cocaine on the administrator, Anne Marrin
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Gliniewicz was involved in "extensive criminal acts" and stole tens of thousands of dollars over seven years
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"Trust me ive thougit through MANY SCENARIOS from planting things to the volo bog," he wrote. (Volo Bog is a remote, marshy nature preserve near Fox Lake.)

And like any good cop he kept his family in the loop

Revelations from the case continue to have a ripple effect, as it was also disclosed that police are investigating Gliniewicz's wife and son, Melodie and D.J. Gliniewicz, to determine if they had any role in the alleged embezzlement.

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Just your typical police officer overseen by your typical internal affairs division ...
http://www.people.com/article/joe-gliniewicz-suicide-hiring-hitman-text-messages

staged his own suicide to cover up alleged "extensive criminal acts" including embezzlement ... discussed hiring a hitman
...
officers found small packets of cocaine in his desk that had no connection to any police cases.
...
One theory about the drugs was that Gliniewicz was scheming to plant the cocaine on the administrator, Anne Marrin
...
Gliniewicz was involved in "extensive criminal acts" and stole tens of thousands of dollars over seven years
...
"Trust me ive thougit through MANY SCENARIOS from planting things to the volo bog," he wrote. (Volo Bog is a remote, marshy nature preserve near Fox Lake.)

And like any good cop he kept his family in the loop

Revelations from the case continue to have a ripple effect, as it was also disclosed that police are investigating Gliniewicz's wife and son, Melodie and D.J. Gliniewicz, to determine if they had any role in the alleged embezzlement.

What's funny about this story is that after the reports came out of his shooting by, as he reported on his radio 2 white men and a black man, police officers from all around the country came to his funeral to honor a fallen hero, and his case specifically was used by police departments all over the country to 'highlight' the rising violence against officers is rising despite 2015 having the fewest officers killed in the line of duty and being called one of the safest years on record.

There were once pictures up of Joe proclaiming "Some gave all" that dotted windows and front lawns of Fox Lake, IL. Now, after these revelations about his criminal conduct, those pictures have "fraud, liar, thief" all over them. The people feel lied to, and their trust is broken.

No it is you that doesn't understand, in a lot of cases there is no real guidance to the officers at the sharp end. They have just been issued these tasers and told to use them as a non-lethal method of controlling suspects.

Of course it doesn't help that the company that makes them and the government authorities have only tested them on healthy non-drug (including legal drugs) taking humans with no heart problems.

Austin Police Chief Proud that his officers didn't rape a suspect!
http://www.mintpressnews.com/two-austin-men-beaten-by-police-for-jaywalking/211075/

Last Thursday police in Austin, Texas, began a “pedestrian enforcement” activity near the campus of the University of Texas, where they stopped and warned or ticketed jaywalkers.

When law enforcement officers attempted to issue a jaywalking citation to a jogger, Amanda Jo Stephen, she refused to stop. Some witnesses say she didn’t hear the officers, as she was wearing earphones.
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Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo quickly came to the defense of the arresting officers, saying they may have been rough with the female college student, but at least they didn’t rape her.
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“And quite frankly she wasn’t charged with resisting. She’s lucky I wasn’t the arresting officer, because I wouldn’t have been as generous. … In other cities there’s cops who are actually committing sexual assaults on duty, so I thank God that this is what passes for a controversy in Austin, Texas,” Acevedo said.

My, the Chief there sure sets a high standard of conduct for his officers to follow. Don't rape female suspects!

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Maybe Quentin Tarantino is right?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/us/2-louisiana-officers-charged-with-murder-in-death-of-6-year-old.html

Two police officers have been arrested on charges of second-degree murder in connection with the shooting death of a 6-year-old boy during a pursuit of his father in a sport utility vehicle in central Louisiana, the state police said Friday.
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Colonel Edmonson said that over the past 72 hours, investigators had studied footage from body cameras, interviewed witnesses and listened to 911 recordings. He promised a “methodical and detail oriented investigation.”

He declined to say why the police began pursuing Mr. Few’s vehicle, or what caused them to open fire.

Describing the body camera footage, Colonel Edmonson said, “I can tell you as a father it was one of the most disturbing things I have witnessed.”

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Another "Black Eye"
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/11/taser_video_for_carol_in_tusca.html

Three Tuscaloosa police officers are on paid leave after they were seen using a Taser stun gun and baton on students during a noise complaint early Sunday morning in what the chief called a "black eye" for the department and the city.

Chief Steve Anderson today said more officers could be placed on leave as what promises to be an exhaustive and lengthy investigation continues. The officers placed on leave are the first officer to arrive on the scene, the officer who used the Taser on a student and the officer who used the nightstick, he said.

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Given their attitude to policing their own citizens, it is somewhat worrying that America has taken it on itself to start training foreign police forces - such as in Jordan - assisted by some of the throwbacks of a former apartheid regime.

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We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Apart from pain. And maybe humiliation. And obviously death. And failure. But apart from fear, pain and humiliation, failure and the unknown and death - we have nothing to fear. Who’s with me?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_INDIANA_OFFICER_ARRESTED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

MUNCIE, Ind. (AP) -- A longtime reserve officer with a central Indiana police department who is accused of sexually and physically assaulting a juvenile girl and coercing her into having sex with other men faces preliminary charges of rape, human trafficking and battery.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/15/report-nearly-10g-vanishes-from-police-evidence-safe/

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Good news for the NRA!

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/popup/audio/player.html?autoPlay=true&clipIds=2678623589


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It's about time they got this right....

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