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Message 61288 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 16:48:21 UTC
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He's the Good Guy, he HAS to win!
Like when I was little, my mom tells the story of when Batman was in a very bad predicament, and my mom asked if he was going to die, I said "NO, he has to be on next weeks episode!"
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I know all that Mikey, I still find it funny though, I keep telling my wife that their not going to kill anybody because they've got Machine Guns ... ;)
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Message 61292 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 16:57:38 UTC
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My absolute favorite in this regard is in every movie, if someone is standing almost completely out in the open with only a single iron hand rail between them and the guy with the machine gun, every shot from the machine gun will hit the iron railing.

[edit] and of course the bullets never ricochet badly, either.
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Message 61293 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 17:03:09 UTC - in response to Message 61272.  

> The bad guys still do that today! All the gangs have the small automatic
> weapons or semi-auto pistols, and they pump out sooo many bullets and hit
> everything, including sometimes, their intended target! I think they should
> make time on the range MANDATORY for all gun purchases! Hit what you mean to,
> not the neighbors!

That's terrific, except do you really think the gangs got the weapons anywhere that would require them to take this course? Hint: they don't buy them in stores.
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Message 61296 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 17:08:33 UTC
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When I was in Chicago last week I saw the 3-D, IMAX version of "The Polar Express". I know some critics thought the digital characters looked creepy, and not life-like, but I saw them as the next step in digitizing real looking human characters for movies. The advantage of computer generated actors is that they are not bound by physical laws like gravity, and in this fantasy movie, that freedom was used to great effect. Now, the plot was not exactly Dickens, but it was fun and it may one day become a classic, especially the 3-D version (perhaps packaged with 3-D glasses).
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Message 61300 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 17:18:24 UTC - in response to Message 61296.  

> When I was in Chicago last week I saw the 3-D, IMAX version of "The Polar
> Express". I know some critics thought the digital characters looked creepy,
> and not life-like, but I saw them as the next step in digitizing real looking
> human characters for movies. The advantage of computer generated actors is
> that they are not bound by physical laws like gravity, and in this fantasy
> movie, that freedom was used to great effect. Now, the plot was not exactly
> Dickens, but it was fun and it may one day become a classic, especially the
> 3-D version (perhaps packaged with 3-D glasses).

I haven't seen this, but watching other recent CGI movies like Finding Nemo, I think I noticed at least one element that's missing from current computer animations. Texture mapping of skin features is essentially a two-dimensional process, but real skin is seen in three dimensions. You see the redness from the blood flowing through capillaries millimeters beneath the skin, bruising and tattoos have depth to them, etc. There are subtle changes to this depth appearance looking from different angles as well. This three-dimensional environment is not simulated, so moving human characters look kinda off.
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Message 61307 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 17:41:42 UTC - in response to Message 61300.  

> I haven't seen this, but watching other recent CGI movies like Finding Nemo, I
> think I noticed at least one element that's missing from current computer
> animations. Texture mapping of skin features is essentially a two-dimensional
> process, but real skin is seen in three dimensions. You see the redness from
> the blood flowing through capillaries millimeters beneath the skin, bruising
> and tattoos have depth to them, etc. There are subtle changes to this depth
> appearance looking from different angles as well. This three-dimensional
> environment is not simulated, so moving human characters look kinda off.

Movies like "Finding Nemo" and "Toy Story" have the advantage of being mostly cartoons, so the occasional "human" figure can get away with looking like a cartoon. If you're suggesting that more realistic human characters might be produced by paying more attention to the three dimentional characteristics of things like skin and hair, that may be true, but traditional films get it right (so do photos, both digital and chemical).
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Message 61309 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 17:48:59 UTC - in response to Message 61307.  
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> Movies like "Finding Nemo" and "Toy Story" have the advantage of being mostly
> cartoons, so the occasional "human" figure can get away with looking like a
> cartoon. If you're suggesting that more realistic human characters might be
> produced by paying more attention to the three dimentional characteristics of
> things like skin and hair, that may be true, but traditional films get it
> right (so do photos, both digital and chemical).

True, but I include movies that attempted to put up relatively convincing actors too, like Final Fantasy.

Using live humans in effects sequences (green-screen, wires, etc) imposes its own set of problems, most notably hazards and discomfort of the actors as well as lighting. That's why a convincing CGI actor would be desirable in some parts.
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Message 61310 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 17:52:50 UTC

But how's this for as human as they have got so far.

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Message 61332 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 18:35:09 UTC - in response to Message 61310.  

> But how's this for as human as they have got so far.
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> Aki Ross form Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
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Cool, but not photo quality.
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Message 61334 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 18:39:37 UTC - in response to Message 61332.  

> > But how's this for as human as they have got so far.
> >
> > Aki Ross form Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
> >
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> Cool, but not photo quality.
>
I know but that would have taken up way too much space and those using a dial up would've been waiting for hours for it to load.

But check out the movie the quality of skin tones/textures really is quite amazing!!

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Message 61380 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 21:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 61293.  

> > The bad guys still do that today! All the gangs have the small automatic
> > weapons or semi-auto pistols, and they pump out sooo many bullets and
> hit
> > everything, including sometimes, their intended target! I think they
> should
> > make time on the range MANDATORY for all gun purchases! Hit what you mean
> to,
> > not the neighbors!
>
> That's terrific, except do you really think the gangs got the weapons anywhere
> that would require them to take this course? Hint: they don't buy them in
> stores.
>
True but if you were buying guns and reselling them that course would become VERY old VERY quick!
The ones gotten on the street or stolen, I haven't thought up a fix yet.

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Message 61430 - Posted: 6 Jan 2005, 23:51:35 UTC

just looking Sheryl Crow

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Message 61434 - Posted: 7 Jan 2005, 0:09:51 UTC

That's terrific, except do you really think the gangs got the weapons anywhere that would require them to take this course? Hint: they don't buy them in stores.
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Your right, but in the Movies they make it sound like all these bad guys are some sort of Elite Guard Unit for the Head Bad Guy. You would thing the Head Bad Guy would see if the guys he hires could hit something else besides thin air ... ;)
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Message 61436 - Posted: 7 Jan 2005, 0:17:43 UTC

the last Day i looked

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in Germany the third Step or the third Part, is Cult to looking, for the Freaks only .... :)

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Message 61438 - Posted: 7 Jan 2005, 0:26:18 UTC - in response to Message 61434.  

> Your right, but in the Movies they make it sound like all these bad guys are
> some sort of Elite Guard Unit for the Head Bad Guy. You would thing the Head
> Bad Guy would see if the guys he hires could hit something else besides thin
> air ... ;)

Guess it's all still a symptom of what I call in movies "Bad-Guy Disease" (can't hit a main character, unless it's just one ultimately expendable character hit somewhere around the center of the movie). It exists in real life. I've heard stories of a fight in downtown Tacoma 15 or so years back, where something like 4000 rounds were exchanged without hitting any of the participants.

From the song "Cow Pattie"

...And the whole town got as quiet as a church,
When the killer stepped out for the draw.

Forty shots rang out.

Forty people fell.

Patty and the killer missed each other,
But they shot that town to hell.
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Message 61443 - Posted: 7 Jan 2005, 0:40:09 UTC
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I figured I'd get some documentation on the shootout I mentioned above. Evidently it was only hundreds of rounds, not thousands. Make what you will about the fact that it was between drug dealers and U.S. Army rangers.

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Message 61455 - Posted: 7 Jan 2005, 0:56:46 UTC - in response to Message 61438.  

> Guess it's all still a symptom of what I call in movies "Bad-Guy Disease"
> (can't hit a main character, unless it's just one ultimately expendable
> character hit somewhere around the center of the movie).

Uh! I can't help it, but I came to think of Brandon Lee in The Crowe!!! The bad guys really hit there! :-(
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Message 62576 - Posted: 9 Jan 2005, 13:24:04 UTC

I've never seen The Matrix in it's entirety, and I'll never see The Matrix Revolutions. The library's copy of The Seventh Seal is thoroughly scratched, so I guess I won't be able to see that either. What a to-do list I've got...

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Message 62581 - Posted: 9 Jan 2005, 13:39:10 UTC - in response to Message 62576.  
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Actually the TV series is almost as good as the radio series (both BBC) and the (first 2) books :)

So no need for a movie. But tell that to the estate of Douglas Adams :(

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Message 62590 - Posted: 9 Jan 2005, 14:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 62576.  
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>Jaws was never my scene / and I don't like Star Wars
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