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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30692 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Didn't take long for Faux to come up with this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/22/seattle-sees-fallout-from-15-minimum-wage-as-other-cities-follow-suit/ Seattle’s $15 minimum wage law is supposed to lift workers out of poverty and move them off public assistance. But there may be a hitch in the plan. Is the $15/hr figure too low to live off? Does it need to be $20/hr? $25/hr? When will it be high enough that it makes more than the government assistance programs for the poor? We all know that no one is living on assistance because they find it easy. We know every single one of them wants full time employment. We know they want to be proud and make their own way. Of this there is no question. So what is going on? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
So what is going on? Gary I do consider the source, Faux news. Since I live across Puget Sound from Seattle and most of my local news comes from there I hear of very few locals complaining. Most seem to find it to be a non event since it has not gone into effect yet. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30692 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Faux sourced the story as Jason Rantz. Apparently a local talk radio rant.So what is going on? Since I live across Puget Sound from Seattle and most of my local news comes from there I hear of very few locals complaining. Most seem to find it to be a non event since it has not gone into effect yet.About what I expected. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Came across something similar years ago while working for Ryder's. We had 2 types of runs, local & long-distance. On the local runs, 9/10 one had 2 boxes (demountable units). Certain drivers refused to work their 2nd box as it pushed their working day beyond 16:30. This interfered with their "Working Tax Credits" On a personal note, I'm glad that the government has introduced a cap on paying for children - you want kids, you support them, not the state. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Didn't take long for Faux to come up with this: New York is trying for the $15.00 an hour wage for fast food resturants. I need to to quit my freaking CNC machiniong job that only pays me $17.10 and hour, That comes with doing precise work and a lot of job stress, And flip freaking burgers 40 hours a week? And here I thought places like that were entry leveljobs and jobs for folks who needed a little extra income? So fast food is the next new middle class jobs? I can hear the layoffs hapening now. Im sorry sir you dont have a degree in fast food preperation to work here. [/quote] Old James |
James C. Send message Joined: 19 Jul 06 Posts: 640 Credit: 18,352,758 RAC: 11 |
Im sorry sir you dont have a degree in fast food preperation to work here. My thoughts exactly. Great James' think alike? -"Young" James "To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like." -Steven Hawking |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
In Utrecht Netherlands starts an experiment with citizen salary after the summer. The idea is to see if society could function effectively if everyone received a base salary from the state, gratuitous. What happens when you give people one month without requiring performance and controls? Will people become passive or contributes to society? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-city-of-utrecht-to-experiment-with-a-universal-unconditional-income-10345595.html |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It must be :-) |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Im sorry sir you dont have a degree in fast food preperation to work here. My point was and or is. That those burger flipping jobs wont go to teenage kids working part time.Or the person who needs a little hepl for a while making ends meet. They will let go all full timers and only hire full time 40 hours a week folks. So for some that means two shifts of full timers. And some that are open 24/7 3 shifts. And id wager a some staffs cuts in them as well. [/quote] Old James |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Im sorry sir you dont have a degree in fast food preperation to work here. I read this today. The American Middle Class Is No Longer the World’s Richest. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/upshot/the-american-middle-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans. “The idea that the median American has so much more income than the middle class in all other parts of the world is not true these days,†said Lawrence Katz, a Harvard economist who is not associated with LIS. “In 1960, we were massively richer than anyone else. In 1980, we were richer. In the 1990s, we were still richer.†That is no longer the case, Professor Katz added. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Best Solution: Increase the Wealth and Economy's of Corrupt Western Capitalism, within Western Countries. HAH! You think 'increase wealth and economy' is a practical solution? Like its just a matter of flipping a switch and suddenly the economy will grow and people will just earn more money? If it were that easy, poverty wouldn't exist. Improve the economy is something every politician promises these days. There is no politician and there has never been a politician that wanted to have a shrinking economy with less wealth for everyone. Of course, its easy to make a promise like that, its almost impossible to actually do it. Frankly the economy is completely out of control of any politician. Their policies have only a minor influence on economic performance, far more influential on the economy are the financial markets. They decide whether the economy improves or not, and they are not beholden to any politician. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30692 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
HAH! You think 'increase wealth and economy' is a practical solution? Like its just a matter of flipping a switch and suddenly the economy will grow and people will just earn more money? If it were that easy, poverty wouldn't exist. Posting history? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30692 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. - Herbert HooverBest Solution: Increase the Wealth and Economy's of Corrupt Western Capitalism, within Western Countries. The only time a president ever did something with the economy, in peacetime, was, "First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth." |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. - Herbert HooverBest Solution: Increase the Wealth and Economy's of Corrupt Western Capitalism, within Western Countries. JFK had vision. And at the time we had the political will to do the job. Why you ask? Beacuse as a nation we were afarid the Soviets would get there first. [/quote] Old James |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30692 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. - Herbert HooverBest Solution: Increase the Wealth and Economy's of Corrupt Western Capitalism, within Western Countries. Perhaps we need to be afraid ET will get there first? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Guy, that's a nice fairy tale, did you make it up by yourself? Taxes are the price of civilization. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Guy, that's a nice fairy tale, did you make it up by yourself? Taxes are the price of civilization. Yeah ,lets see him name one country in the past that didnt require taxes or tribute? [/quote] Old James |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Guy, that's a nice fairy tale, did you make it up by yourself? Taxes are the price of civilization. Guy, say what you will but the fact is than man is a social animal. Those who choose to live in societies do much better than those who don't. If you are going to live in a society, a contribution is needed to sustain the society. The alternative is anarchy. Some years ago I asked you if you were an anarchist and you denied being one. What has changed with you? The reason I ask is that your gem that started this thread goes right there. |
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