Sorry, no time to read the whole thread, just wondering if there are any US citizens here who really wanna see Trump as next president?

I am seriously leaning that way.
I know some of his rhetoric is off the cuff, but I can think of no other person other than Trump that could finally cut through the bull in Washington, disrupt the 'good ol boy' network and possibly get our government to start working for the people they represent again.
Those in power are seriously scared of this guy, and not for his policies, but for his threat to their stranglehold on power and corruption.

Mark, I can't agree, but I respect your opinion.

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I think The Donald needs a sort of security force
to protect him in public. You know, like a squad
or company of men to travel around with him.
He could even dress them the same in a distinct uniform,
or even just the same colour shirts say. Then every
one would know better who was who at meetings. I bet
things would go better then.


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Why hasn't any one thought of this before....

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People are scared of the national debt, the increase in foreign and domestic terrorism, the daily assault on our freedom, the loss of jobs, the increasing gap between the rich and the poor, (and several other things...) that has/have happened in the past 7 years.

The loss of jobs and the erosion of the middle class started in the Reagan era and NAFTA accelerated it.

It's time for another Reagan revolution with lower taxes, an explosion of economic activity which allows the producers of this country to produce (and make a profit!) and a re-emergence of trickle down economics.

Trickle down economics have been empirically been proven to not work and it is a joke with a very sorry punch line.

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I think The Donald needs a sort of security force
to protect him in public. You know, like a squad
or company of men to travel around with him.
He could even dress them the same in a distinct uniform,
or even just the same colour shirts say. Then every
one would know better who was who at meetings. I bet
things would go better then.


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Why hasn't any one thought of this before....

I think we will need protection from him.
I estimate a 33% chance, at this time, he will be the GOP nominee and win the election.
The paranoid faction that has feared what they have feared are now inviting it to happen in their support Trump.
For those supporters that are Libertarians, we need other Libertarians to let them know why ... very specific reasons ... Trump does not have the support of all Libertarians.
Gun owners: gun owners that do not support Trump need to give gun owners that do specific reasons why they do not support Trump.
As for this being the result of rejection of the Left, sorry Clyde, but I just don't see it. You yourself have said Obama has been ineffectual, correct? Obama and his crew have at best done 2 things to move this country left and it hasn't been by much.

In 1986, I could cross into Canada at Niagara Falls with no passport and again in 1996 at Alexandria Bay. On my mother's death in 2007, I could not return back to the state I studied by crossing Canada. I was forced to make the trip 2 to 3 times longer for lack of a passport. Why the hell should I need a passport when it was not needed before. A driver's license should have been good enough! And you know it wasn't the Canadians putting the limitations in place. It was the fascists in our country, building a wall around us and penning us in.

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A driver's license should have been good enough!

I agree with you on this, even more now that we are all
in the computer. I got my first passport in 1967, but I
never needed it to go into the republic.

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Clyde you made an absurd absolute statement and you respond with your usual ad hominem attack.

I can always count on you to say your silliness.

I merely pointed that out.

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You said

Criminalization of any Speech. Without any Criminal Action(s):

Is an atrocity, disgrace, horror, obscenity, outrage, evil, crime, monstrosity, and anathema to Western Civilization

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I think we will need protection from him.

Sarge...

You are correct. But his supporters are only responding to their valid concerns.

Unfortunately. No one else has stepped up, to voice their concerns. They just attack him. Thereby, reputing not only the concerns of his supporters. But possibly the concerns of the majority of the American people.

Hopefully, for everyone's sake. Someone else 'Steps Up'.

When does a valid concern become an irrational fear?

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

BTW: I do appreciate his repeating my intelligent, and truthful thoughts.

The Clyde has much hubris and bs

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If one were to follow Trump's logic in stopping and indeed removing all Muslims from the US, and this logic had been used in the past, would Donald be even in the US.

He is of German Scottish decent. Therefore wouldn't his family have been removed from US soil in the 1940's.

Sorry, no time to read the whole thread, just wondering if there are any US citizens here who really wanna see Trump as next president?

I am seriously leaning that way.
I know some of his rhetoric is off the cuff, but I can think of no other person other than Trump that could finally cut through the bull in Washington, disrupt the 'good ol boy' network and possibly get our government to start working for the people they represent again.
Those in power are seriously scared of this guy, and not for his policies, but for his threat to their stranglehold on power and corruption.

Mark, I can't agree, but I respect your opinion.

Thank you for that, and I respect the fact that you disagree.
I do believe that he has a realistic chance of becoming our next president.
Many Americans are WAY sick and tired of politics as usual, and for us, Trump represents the best hope in many years of tossing the system on it's ear and getting the voice of the people heard by our government again.
Sorry if you disagree, but that the way I and many Americans currently see it.

Meow.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Sorry, no time to read the whole thread, just wondering if there are any US citizens here who really wanna see Trump as next president?

Yes there are, xenophobes exist in all societies including this one.

One does not have to be a xenophobe to support increasing our national security.
And if, at this point in time, that means shutting down the immigration channels for muslims or any other group for a time until such measures can be put in place to assure those seeking entry are not also seeking jihad, I don't think you are right in calling that xenophobic.

I understand, and agree fully, that almost ALL of the muslim faith are not radicalized, and many are trying to distance themselves from the very few that are. I sympathize with them. I am not here to accuse most muslims of anything.

HOWEVER, given current events, one cannot just put one's head in the sand and pretend the threat does not exist and keep the gates open for all comers.
That would simply be ignorant and foolish.

And most unfortunately, that appears to be what our current president is going to do. Turn the cheek, glance the other way, and just hope wishes upon fishes that it won't happen again......
Meowsigh.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

So where do the innocent Muslims trying to flee the violence in the Middle East go to?

In most cases if there are any more incidents in the US, they will probably similar to the recent case in San Bernardino, people who are already living in the US. Syed Rizwan Farook was born in Chicago.

The 9/11 people were in the US for months and did their pilots training there.

Closing the door after the horse has bolted does absolutely nothing.

But I do agree the US probably does need a President from a different mold, but D Trump is not it.

So where do the innocent Muslims trying to flee the violence in the Middle East go to?

I confess that I do not have an answer for that.
Other than, it is NOT the USofA's problem or dictate to solve all of the world's problems by taking them upon our shoulders.

As much as some administration's seeming will to do so without a mandate from the American public would seem to be.

I realize that solving some of those problems IS in our better interest long term.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

I think my respect for you just grew a little.

Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering this country.

Is this the truth? Yes.

Is this the *whole* truth? No.

Is this nothing *but* the truth? Not answerable yet because it's not the *whole* truth.

By some standards (which I have had to live up to in previous occupations), this would, therefore, be called a lie because it presents an idea which could be misinterpreted by many and therefore calls into question whether or not it is intentionally misleading.

Ok, so Clinton is finally recognizing that some are afraid of what's happening in the world and what might happen more here in the U.S.

What about *all the other issues* that Americans are tired of, scared of, and angry about--that Hillary will continue to make Americans tired of, scared of and angry about?

I'm tired of people who abuse power, leaving "..." in place of original words and then claiming to be someone that lives up to high standards. And those people will always be reminded of it. Such people may border on evil, but how could I discriminate, I can't even tell which party I'm not registered for!?

Should we ban people from not having passports?
Sure, you can fly from the northern mid-west off our continent to Hawai'i with no need for a passport (or at least you could in January 2007), but you can no longer pass through (for 360 miles) through the contiguous land of an ally. Pragmatism lost in fear.

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

Trump wants to ban Muslims from entering this country.

Is this the truth? Yes.

Is this the *whole* truth? No.

What, in your view, is the whole truth?

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...