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Message 1804251 - Posted: 22 Jul 2016, 20:10:26 UTC

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are in a bar. Donald leans over, and With A smile on his face, says, "The media is really tearing you apart for That Scandal."
Hillary: "You mean my lying about Benghazi?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean the massive voter fraud?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean the military not getting their votes counted?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Using my secret private server with classified material to Hide my Activities?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything Else?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, Hiring Cronies, And taking bribes from foreign countries?
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean the drones being operated in our own country without The Benefit of the law?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it Declared Bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "The funding of neoNazis in the Ukraine that led to the toppling of the democratically elected president and to the biggest crisis that country has had since WWII ?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Turning Libya into chaos?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Being the mastermind of the so-called “Arab Spring” that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa ?
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi and go to sleep?
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Encouraging and supporting the murders of Palestinians and the destruction of their homes, towns and villages by Israel ?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the "moderate" terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, and had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya?
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "The creation of the biggest refugees crisis since WWII
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Leaving Iraq in chaos? "
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "The DOJ spying on the press?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Giving our cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "The NSA monitoring citizens' ?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Threats to all of Bill's former mistresses to keep them quiet"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "I give up! ... Oh wait, I think I've got it! When I stole the White House furniture, silverware, when Bill left Office?"
Trump: "THAT'S IT! I almost forgot about that one".
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Message 1804261 - Posted: 22 Jul 2016, 21:16:35 UTC - in response to Message 1804246.  

Dull The Donald said he would cut taxes, increase military spending, increase infrastructure spending, spend more on education among other things.
He didn't say how it would get paid for. Inflation perhaps?

Cutting of all of the illegal benefits, perhaps?
Reducing them to those who are legally due them, perhaps?
That in itself would trim billions.

Ya yapping now?

Except the economic benefits of illegal immigrants to the US economy is actually quite large. (1)For instance in Texas the illegal immigrants are estimated to add about $20 billion to the states budget every year. They contribute payroll taxes and social security payments. (2)The social security payments go towards paying for the elderly, but they themselves will not be eligible for these benefits as they are illegals.
And in the US as a whole, because illegal immigrants spend most of their low pay immediately it goes straight back into the economy and creates extra jobs.

If you don't realise it now, you will after they are forced to go because the US economy will collapse.


2 things wrong with this statement of yours, WinterKnight (forgive my markup).

On point (1):

The payroll taxes (mostly Social Security, but also medicare) do NOT go to the State Government. They are Federal Taxes.

On point (2):

Don't be too sure of that. Citizenship is not a requirement to collect Social Security, nor is residency in the USA.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1804283 - Posted: 22 Jul 2016, 22:13:27 UTC - in response to Message 1804261.  

They are two separate sentences and I didn't expect you to link them. probably my fault I should have done a para break.
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Message 1804302 - Posted: 22 Jul 2016, 22:57:12 UTC - in response to Message 1804261.  

On point (2):

Don't be too sure of that. Citizenship is not a requirement to collect Social Security, nor is residency in the USA.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/03/social-security-for-illegal-immigrants/
We’ll just quickly note that illegal immigrants are broadly disqualified from collecting benefits from government programs, according to U.S. Code, with only limited exceptions. Those exceptions are:

  • Emergency medical care (which includes emergency labor and delivery)
  • Emergency disaster relief that is provided for the short term and is not a cash payment
  • Limited immunizations and testing, and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases
  • Certain community programs, such as soup kitchens or crisis counseling, as specified by the Attorney General
  • Limited housing or community development assistance to those already receiving it in 1996

These are the only circumstances under which illegal immigrants can lawfully receive government assistance. Notably absent from this list is any type of Social Security benefits. To repeat: Illegal immigrants cannot legally receive Social Security benefits, and Congress isn’t about to vote on legislation that would change that.


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Message 1804332 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 0:31:47 UTC - in response to Message 1804302.  

On point (2):

Don't be too sure of that. Citizenship is not a requirement to collect Social Security, nor is residency in the USA.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/03/social-security-for-illegal-immigrants/
We’ll just quickly note that illegal immigrants are broadly disqualified from collecting benefits from government programs, according to U.S. Code, with only limited exceptions. Those exceptions are:

  • Emergency medical care (which includes emergency labor and delivery)
  • Emergency disaster relief that is provided for the short term and is not a cash payment
  • Limited immunizations and testing, and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases
  • Certain community programs, such as soup kitchens or crisis counseling, as specified by the Attorney General
  • Limited housing or community development assistance to those already receiving it in 1996

These are the only circumstances under which illegal immigrants can lawfully receive government assistance. Notably absent from this list is any type of Social Security benefits. To repeat: Illegal immigrants cannot legally receive Social Security benefits, and Congress isn’t about to vote on legislation that would change that.



Ahh, but all it takes is an amnesty deal. Boom.


Such as:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/15/obama-amnesty-granted-more-500k-ssn/


The administration has granted about 541,000 Social Security numbers to illegal immigrants under President Obama’s original 2012 deportation amnesty for Dreamers, officials told Congress in a letter made public Wednesday.

That means almost all of the illegal immigrants approved for the amnesty are being granted work permits and Social Security numbers, opening the door to government benefits ranging from tax credits to driver’s licenses.

https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

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Message 1804368 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 3:02:49 UTC - in response to Message 1804175.  

Pretend that you were the advisor to President Donald Trump. What would you advise ?

I would like to take a shot at it myself. This is just the start.

    Withdraw troops from S Korea, Germany, France, Japan, England. Keep only airbases in these countries.

    Close 60% of our overseas bases.

    Eliminate entire departments: Education etc

    Mandate 10% reduction per year in all remaining departments except DOD--use early retirement for those with 20 years. Mandatory retirement with those having 30 years.

    Initiate a draft.

    Cancel F-35 program and other overly expensive and complicated weapons systems.

    Make social security into a mandated IRA for those under 35 yrs of age. Establish Health savings accounts for the Medicare portion.

    Impose 35% tariff on manufactured good from Mexico and China.

    Start the Trans Canada Pipeline and drill for oil and gas domestically. Kick BP and others out of our territorial waters.

    Return capital gains to 15%.

    Cut corporate taxes to the average rate of all industrialized nations.



    I had no idea you were so conservative. Sometimes I really have people pegged wrong!

    Advise Trump?

    "Get offa my lawn"
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    Message 1804386 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 4:37:33 UTC

    R0TFLMA0!!

    Donald Trump Jr SCORCHES Bernie Sanders for Wall St. tweet with one significant question

    Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/22/donald-trump-jr-scorches-bernie-sanders-wall-st-tweet-one-significant-question-368730#ixzz4FCfHKB4n

    BS: We have a situation now where Wall Street banks are not only too big to fail, they are too big to jail. 9:05 AM - 22 Jul 2016

    DTJ: Sort of like Hillary. Right??? 9:59 AM - 22 Jul 2016
    ...
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    Message 1804388 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 4:46:34 UTC - in response to Message 1804386.  

    R0TFLMA0!!

    Donald Trump Jr SCORCHES Bernie Sanders for Wall St. tweet with one significant question

    Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/22/donald-trump-jr-scorches-bernie-sanders-wall-st-tweet-one-significant-question-368730#ixzz4FCfHKB4n

    BS: We have a situation now where Wall Street banks are not only too big to fail, they are too big to jail. 9:05 AM - 22 Jul 2016

    DTJ: Sort of like Hillary. Right??? 9:59 AM - 22 Jul 2016

    Oh wow......and not really a surprise, is it?

    The true surprise shall come when the judiciary she 'thinks' she has bought and paid for turns on her and indicts her.
    I do have hope that the highest law in the land will one day finally lay it's hands on her. And she shall pay the price. Treason is too kind a word.

    Well, as an American citizen paying for all of the show, I do hope we all get our happy ending....LOL.
    "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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    Message 1804404 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 5:38:42 UTC - in response to Message 1804332.  

    Ahh, but all it takes is an amnesty deal. Boom.

    Then they aren't illegal. Boom.
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    Message 1804460 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 14:49:09 UTC

    Interesting. Got to give the man credit for being a great orator.

    Trump's RNC Address

    Full speech
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    Message 1804464 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:02:06 UTC - in response to Message 1804460.  

    give the man credit for being a great orator.



    You're kidding right?


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    Message 1804467 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:17:34 UTC

    Trump acceptance speech, fact checking
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    Message 1804468 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:18:29 UTC - in response to Message 1804464.  

    give the man credit for being a great orator.

    You're kidding right?

    Business men are always good to pitch a product.
    They can even convince you to buy a bad product and you will feel good about it.
    Spam, Spam, Spam.
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    Message 1804470 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:37:51 UTC - in response to Message 1804464.  

    give the man credit for being a great orator.



    You're kidding right?


    Can you stand up & give an oration for 77 minutes?
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    Message 1804472 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:40:01 UTC - in response to Message 1804470.  
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    Yes!



    edit:
    ...and I've done more than once in my life....

    re-edit;
    The trick is looking up at the end and seeing people still left in the room....

    re-re-edit;
    I strongly recommend breaks at fifty minutes in any lecture...
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    Message 1804473 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:42:39 UTC - in response to Message 1804090.  
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    I really wish that some of you would have a bit more respect.
    Whether you like it or not, I have little doubt that Trump ;is going to be our next president......Of the good ol' USofA.

    It might not be to everybody's liking, but consider the alternative.

    And she might be jailed before the election, God willing.

    Meow.


    Sorry, respect and politicians overwhelmingly tend to be mutually exclusive.

    Trump is poison.
    Clinton is worse.

    Either one of these two wins, the nation is screwed. Effectively we are presented a choice between Hitler and Stalin.

    We NEED someone else.


    You mean Hitler and MADE-OFF.
    CALLING CLINTON ANYTHING ALONG THE LINES OF A LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE/SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST is ab ASOLUuuuute .... FREAK'ing HILLARYous jOOOke.
    Get it together, Kong.
    P.S.: love how all posts end with a note that your posts have ended "textexit"! NICE! ;)
    Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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    Message 1804474 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:44:27 UTC - in response to Message 1804470.  

    give the man credit for being a great orator.



    You're kidding right?


    Can you stand up & give an oration for 77 minutes?


    As a matter of fact, I can and do.
    Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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    Message 1804478 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:47:11 UTC - in response to Message 1804472.  

    Yes!
    The trick is looking up at the end and seeing people still left in the room....

    True, & everyone was still there after that speech.

    Hilary has to go some to top that :-)
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    Message 1804479 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:47:44 UTC - in response to Message 1804474.  

    give the man credit for being a great orator.



    You're kidding right?


    Can you stand up & give an oration for 77 minutes?


    As a matter of fact, I can and do.

    In front of how many?
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    Message 1804480 - Posted: 23 Jul 2016, 15:48:21 UTC - in response to Message 1804479.  

    give the man credit for being a great orator.



    You're kidding right?


    Can you stand up & give an oration for 77 minutes?


    As a matter of fact, I can and do.

    In front of how many?

    No, it is are they forced to be there?
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