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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Yesterday police in Kansas City used pepper spray against a group of people demonstrating against Republican Donald Trump. Four people were arrested in protests against the presidential aspirant who are blaming Democrats Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. Trump has even asked his followers to "beat the crap" out of opponents, and if someone ends up in trouble for this, he has promised to pay the legal costs. It is Clinton and Sanders people who disrupted my rally in Chicago - and then they say I must talk to my people. Phony politicians! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/708723421106937857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw And for some stupid reason Trump thinks that one protester has ties to ISIS. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/708800227994537984 The video Trump links to show people with ties to the middle east protesting against America. In the end the protesters and the offended people shake hands and the american flag is handed over. “This is not meant to individually disrespect member of military service for the sacrifices they made for this country,†Dimassimo told WKRC-TV at the event, which ended with the protesters giving the flags to veterans to be properly disposed of. “We are not anti-vet, we are not anti-troops. We are against systematic oppression and structural inequality.†http://heavy.com/news/2016/03/thomas-tom-tommy-dimassimo-donald-trump-rally-rush-stage-secret-service-protester-twitter-younglionking7-photos-video/ BTW. Trump should perhaps learn some arabic:) تومي د هو مجرد كيس Ù†Ø¶Ø Ø§Ù„Ø£Ù… الأبله وطي آخر ÙŠØاول أن يكون باردا ÙˆÙŠØµÙ„Ø . ويعتقد أن من خلال الوقو٠على العلم الأمريكي المقدس انه سيكون رجل كبير ولها الخصيتين كبيرةولكنهيثبت Ùقط أن قضيبه |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
I know of Alex Jones Infowars.com. Sometimes directed to his 'Conspiracy' site. As the same with Left Wingers Thuggery sites. When infowars is used as the source to substantiate a claim, it does say something about the poster. Either they don't know what kind of site infowars is, or they don't care. On Ilya Sheyman, this is his statement "taking credit for the violence in Chicago: Ilya Sheyman wrote: MoveOn proudly supported University of Illinois at Chicago students and local organizers in their courageous nonviolent protest outside the event. We helped student leaders by printing signs and recruiting MoveOn members to attend the student-led protest. (source) Only a simpleton like Jones would portray this as taking credit for violence. While there may be thugs on both sides, they appear to be disproportionately represented in Drumpf's supporters, correct? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19091 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.†― Sun Tzu, The Art of War Or, “Keep Your Friends Close and Your Enemies Closer†- Michael Corleone in The Godfather Part II |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I suspect Drumpf is neither Democrat nor Republican, unfortunately there isn't an Opportunist party. In Europe we have many Opportunist parties. Sweden Democrats, UKIP in the UK and Front National in France just to mention a few of them. Same rethoric as Drumpf uses. The 30's comes to mind even though I was not born back then. Drumpf usually says to protesters "Get him out of here! Out! Out!" In Germany they would say "Raus! Raus!" #MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain:) http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/video/2016/mar/02/john-oliver-targets-trump-with-make-donald-drumpf-again-campaign-video @WinterKnight So very true. Politicians should read those very wise words of Sun Tzu. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
The Left and Progressives are Fundamentally Unintelligent and/or in need of Psychiatric help. A lie repeated is still a lie. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The Left and Progressives are Fundamentally Unintelligent and/or in need of Psychiatric help. Shouldn't you say there are felons in all political parties? Using iron pipes is a method to handle opponents here in my country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_pipe_scandal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPycz-tsrDM |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19091 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Why are you targeting one person who has been the US Secretary of State, with acts that have also been committed by two others. Who happen to be Republicans. I have worked in classified environments, including access to US material, and twice been accused of misdemeanours, in both cases I proved very early on, the the mistakes were made by the people who classified documents, and in both cases wanted to put them at levels way above the correct level. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/state-department-removes-a-dozen-emails-from-unclassified-electronic-archives/2016/03/04/26c8b376-e222-11e5-9c36-e1902f6b6571_story.html |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Hillary is a felon, she just hasn't been convicted yet. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/analysis-hillary-clinton-commit-crime-based-today/story?id=36626499 She could be accused for “gross negligenceâ€. Using email servers like she have done is perhaps a not good thing. But really, is that a big thing? Mea Culpa, "my bad":) |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
But I'll stand by my statement that most democrats are felons. [Even though i]t's FTFY Your earlier source was http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412 and said most felons registered as Democrats. The article said nothing about most Democrats. If you have a different article from the Washington Times, you have yet to link it. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
bobby, 7 in 10 is most. Therefore, it's the truth. No need to dig any deeper than that. The article you linked talked about most felons, not most democrats, thus your claim "most democrats are felons" is not supported by your source, while "most felons register as democrats" is supported. In the study, all democrats were felons, just as were all independents and all republicans, because the study was of felons only. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
So, because someone else has done it in the past and wasn't caught in the past, it's ok for someone in the future to do it also. Therefore, it is now perfectly fine for presidents (and vice presidents) to use foul language in the course of "civil" debate. No it's not perfectly fine to use foul language in the course of civil debate, which is why the President doesn't use it in that way. “So we actually executed this plan as well as I could have expected: We got a UN mandate, we built a coalition, it cost us $1 billion—which, when it comes to military operations, is very cheap. We averted large-scale civilian casualties, we prevented what almost surely would have been a prolonged and bloody civil conflict. And despite all that, Libya is a mess.†(source) That's the original source for the Washington Times' article. As for the Biden comment, it's clearly not in the context of civil debate, it's a private word in the President's ear, that, presumably was not intended to be overheard. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Boy, you just don't get it. It is not a leap in logic. It's a misconstruction of the evidence, to support a statement that cannot be supported. Just as your other examples are for the most part(*) misconstructions of evidence to reach unsupported conclusions. It's actually a smaller leap in logic than: I had not expected you to be so candid about your motive. Guy, seeing as all republicans in that study were felons, do you believe that I am at liberty to say that all republicans are felons? Is that what you want? (*) I say "for the most part" because "she's a women; therefore, you're a sexist", is not a misconstruction, opposition based on sex alone is sexism. You may be opposed to Hillary for any number of non-sexist reasons, "because she's a woman", is a sexist reason. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Oh, get real... Biden said it right in front of a microphone that he had JUST used seconds earlier to introduce Obama (who was about to start speaking). Either he was so stupid as to not realize that the microphone would be left on... or (most likely, given his previous history involving shooting his mouth off) he just didn't care. Neither one of which is a desirable quality in a Government official. "A private word in the President's ear that presumably was not intended to be overheard" would have been Biden telling Obama 'its a big ****ing deal' before either one of them went out in front of the assembled press (and other dignitaries) to speak at the podium... you know... in private. Just like it became a game with the press to photograph the Attorney General at the DOJ building with that semi-nude female statue in the background, so it has become a game with the press to record Biden being... well... Biden (potty mouthed). It relieves the boredom. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Biden was not talking into the microphone, the President's head was at least in part between his mouth and the microphone at the time. Note, I am not saying the act was sensible, I don't think it was, though I do not believe the act qualifies as "civil debate". Biden has made errors, this is one of them. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
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