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Message 1750273 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 0:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 1750256.  
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Ah the intelligence of a voter for Trump:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/poll-finds-41-trump-voters-bomb-aladdin-city-article-1.2470693
The Return of Jafar: Poll finds 41% of likely Trump voters want to bomb Agrabah — the fictional city from ‘Aladdin’

Is this for real?
Due to strong, anti-Muslim language coming from conservatives, PPP wanted to show those surveyed were willing to bomb any country that sounds Middle Eastern, Mayhew said.

How about Agrabah Bazaar, Orlando, Florida, USA!
https://www.google.se/maps/place/Agrabah+Bazaar/@28.4186444,-81.5856513,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x88e780a2271768dd:0x402c96dfe05c3d37

He might even think of bombing here
In 1917, Ruth Putnam printed an exhaustive account of the work performed up to that time. She wrote that both Calafia and California most likely came from the Arabic word khalifa which means steward[6] or leader. The same word in Spanish was califa, easily made into California to stand for "land of the caliph" خلیف, or Calafia to stand for "female caliph" خلیفه


And a few other smaller places,
Mecca in Indiana, Medina in Idaho, Medina in New York, Medina and Hazen in North Dakota, Medina in Ohio, Medina in Tennessee, Medina in Texas, Medina and Arva in Ontario, Mahomet in Illinois and Mona in Utah
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Message 1750274 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 1:06:34 UTC - in response to Message 1750273.  
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Ah the intelligence of a voter for Trump:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/poll-finds-41-trump-voters-bomb-aladdin-city-article-1.2470693
The Return of Jafar: Poll finds 41% of likely Trump voters want to bomb Agrabah — the fictional city from ‘Aladdin’

Is this for real?
Due to strong, anti-Muslim language coming from conservatives, PPP wanted to show those surveyed were willing to bomb any country that sounds Middle Eastern, Mayhew said.

How about Agrabah Bazaar, Orlando, Florida, USA!
https://www.google.se/maps/place/Agrabah+Bazaar/@28.4186444,-81.5856513,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x88e780a2271768dd:0x402c96dfe05c3d37

He might even think of bombing here
In 1917, Ruth Putnam printed an exhaustive account of the work performed up to that time. She wrote that both Calafia and California most likely came from the Arabic word khalifa which means steward[6] or leader. The same word in Spanish was califa, easily made into California to stand for "land of the caliph" خلیف, or Calafia to stand for "female caliph" خلیفه


And a few other smaller places,
Mecca in Indiana, Medina in Idaho, Medina in New York, Medina and Hazen in North Dakota, Medina in Ohio, Medina in Tennessee, Medina in Texas, Medina and Arva in Ontario, Mahomet in Illinois and Mona in Utah

LOL.
But hopefully Trump has a better geopolitical knowledge than his voters in this poll.
Only 500 people was asked.
But I have some doubts:)
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Message 1750302 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 3:41:16 UTC - in response to Message 1750291.  

Ah the intelligence of a voter for Trump:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/poll-finds-41-trump-voters-bomb-aladdin-city-article-1.2470693
The Return of Jafar: Poll finds 41% of likely Trump voters want to bomb Agrabah — the fictional city from ‘Aladdin’


Nothing new there. Here are several examples which show the intelligence of democrat voters:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=watters+world+channel

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mark+dice+channel

And of course, I showed a few posts back that students at Yale think it's a good idea to repeal the 1st amendment... The amendment which guarantees them the right to... does anybody else see any hypocrisy there?


Maybe your next brief screen name change should be to "Whining Guy"?

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and we are no longer accepting open or closed statements or questions from you until you admit the error of your ways. We will, however, listen to the same things you would say, if said by an intelligent person that admits to being a human being.

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Message 1750345 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 6:02:55 UTC - in response to Message 1750343.  
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*Note regarding the Intelligence of the Trump voters*

So? What makes Students, at the formally prestigious Yale University. Who sign petitions to repeal the First Amendment's Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Assembly, etc. Any smarter than Trump supporters?

Nothing.

Skull and Bones, you know, George Bush. Might make you think that they are one in the same!
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Message 1750347 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 6:22:12 UTC - in response to Message 1750256.  

Is this for real?
Due to strong, anti-Muslim language coming from conservatives, PPP wanted to show those surveyed were willing to bomb any country that sounds Middle Eastern, Mayhew said.

Yes, unfortunately, very much so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Policy_Polling
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/
Survey says:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/GOPResults.pdf
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Message 1750391 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 14:43:55 UTC - in response to Message 1750343.  

The conspiracy theories of extreme right and far left threaten democracy thought this might interest Clyde.

As is noted:

"In a complex, changing world both peddle a simple us-and-them narrative. The results are calamitous".

*Note regarding the Intelligence of the Trump voters*

So? What makes Students, at the formally prestigious Yale University. Who sign petitions to repeal the First Amendment's Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Assembly, etc. Any smarter than Trump supporters?

Nothing.

Didn't realize the piece on Yale amounted to a formal survey. Do we know what percentage of those interviewed advocated the repeal of the 1st Amendment? Do we know what the Republican vs Democratic breakdown was of those interviewed? Do we even know that those interviewed in the piece were matriculated? (click here if you don't want to guess the answers).

So, what makes passing judgment on Yale students based on this piece any different to prejudice?

Nothing.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1750398 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 15:05:28 UTC - in response to Message 1750394.  
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So, what makes passing judgment on Yale students based on this piece any different to prejudice?

Nothing.

bobby...

Hit a nerve, I guess.

This dismissal of Trump Supporters is then, also prejudice.

As I said: Just change the 'Target'.

Making a valid point.

BTW: Bernie is getting more interesting. Let's see what happens in the Democrat Debate tonight.

No nerve hit. I am neither a Trump supporter nor a former Yale student (and I am not sure I know any from either group). That a significant number of Trump supporters advocate the bombing of a fictional city has been found by a formal poll, that Yale students want to repeal the 1st Amendment has not, thus these details are not equivalent and changing the target may not be appropriate.

Given these circumstances, why do you believe that your point was valid?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1750408 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 16:27:11 UTC

Those on the 'Left' are just as 'drain bamaged' (regardless of any of his more disgusting behaviors, Cosby did have some good phrases in his comedy routines) as those on the 'Right'. Neither the Right nor the Left have any claim to moral or intellectual superiority. Both sides of the Aisle have serious issues with their policies.

Trump...

Sanders...

both are clowns.

Clinton, however... has way too many legal issues involving her to be qualified to be POTUS, IMO.

And as far as 'formal' polls... Yeah right... most all of them are designed to come up with a specific answer. Doesn't matter WHO runs them. All must be considered to be bogus propaganda.

That said, there are a remarkable number of people in the world (and it is not just US Citizens!) that could stand a lot more knowledge and understanding of both history and forms of government of many of the nations of the world.

The fact that a few US Citizens answered some nonsense on a couple of polls is not remarkable. Fault, if there is any, belongs to the organizations that designed and administered the polls.

Many of these 'opinion polls' are the equivalent of trick questions... I would even go so far as to say they are the polling equivalent of Groucho Marx's famous question... "Have you stopped beating your wife?".

It is not possible to answer some questions (and they are designed that way) without appearing to be a total and complete idiot.

Trump would be as bad for the USA as Sanders. But, both are preferable, in my opinion, to Clinton due to her history.
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Message 1750466 - Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 23:18:02 UTC - in response to Message 1750408.  
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And as far as 'formal' polls... Yeah right... most all of them are designed to come up with a specific answer. Doesn't matter WHO runs them. All must be considered to be bogus propaganda.

Did you look at the pdf linked by Gary? If so, how do you believe the questions are designed to come up with a specific answer? If not, you're handwaving.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Clinton, however... has way too many legal issues involving her to be qualified to be POTUS, IMO.


She is an empty pant's suit. The fact that she didn't leave Bill was all I needed to disqualify her as anything but an opportunistic leach. I am far from being a prude; but Jeezsh !
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Message 1750514 - Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 5:35:47 UTC

Looks like Trump has a bunch of legal issues to be resolved, like Clinton.

I wonder can you be POTUS from a jail cell?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jeb-bush-right-to-rise_5669d5e7e4b0f290e5227593

The complaint letter is priceless:
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Trump-Letter-and-Complaint.pdf
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Message 1750560 - Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 13:06:12 UTC - in response to Message 1750548.  

It's hilarious how some self-proclaimed centrists indirectly claim moral and
intellectual superiority by bashing both the Left and the Right.
None of their opinions ever offer solutions to problems, since by doing so their
solutions could then be labeled as either Leftist or Rightist.
Centrists never have, and never will, accomplish anything.
The Status-quo is all the "squishy middle" will ever understand.

There are three kinds of people who claim to be centrists in this country today. There are embarrassed Republicans. There are lazy people. And there are liars.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/19957-focus-i-hate-centrism

Looking from the outside, I would have thought the opposite applied. At the moment any attempts at passing any laws, seems to be a struggle because those from the other side, will say that this is an attempt to impose extreme measures and automatically vote against the motion. Therefore nothing gets done, until absolutely necessary and at the last minute, like funding for the government departments. This seems to happen every year recently.

If the parties were closer to the centre, then the opposition might say there is some mileage in those suggestions, we will vote for the motion with these slight amendments.

And I must point out, in general from a world viewpoint US politics are actually more central than extremist. The extremes would be Fascism on one side and Communism on the other.
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Message 1750580 - Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 15:23:40 UTC

Now laddies: My alter ego has found the correct candidate to answer this conservative/liberal debate.


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Message 1750602 - Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 17:44:40 UTC - in response to Message 1750475.  

Clinton, however... has way too many legal issues involving her to be qualified to be POTUS, IMO.


She is an empty pant's suit. The fact that she didn't leave Bill was all I needed to disqualify her as anything but an opportunistic leach. I am far from being a prude; but Jeezsh !


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Message 1750605 - Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 17:49:35 UTC - in response to Message 1750560.  

It's hilarious how some self-proclaimed centrists indirectly claim moral and
intellectual superiority by bashing both the Left and the Right.
None of their opinions ever offer solutions to problems, since by doing so their
solutions could then be labeled as either Leftist or Rightist.
Centrists never have, and never will, accomplish anything.
The Status-quo is all the "squishy middle" will ever understand.

There are three kinds of people who claim to be centrists in this country today. There are embarrassed Republicans. There are lazy people. And there are liars.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/19957-focus-i-hate-centrism

Looking from the outside, I would have thought the opposite applied. At the moment any attempts at passing any laws, seems to be a struggle because those from the other side, will say that this is an attempt to impose extreme measures and automatically vote against the motion. Therefore nothing gets done, until absolutely necessary and at the last minute, like funding for the government departments. This seems to happen every year recently.

If the parties were closer to the centre, then the opposition might say there is some mileage in those suggestions, we will vote for the motion with these slight amendments.

And I must point out, in general from a world viewpoint US politics are actually more central than extremist. The extremes would be Fascism on one side and Communism on the other.


And you fail to see the fascism here, which is growing?
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Message 1750606 - Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 17:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 1750584.  

Now... Back to Subject.

Anyone really FOR Trump.

Or is it a 'Protest Vote'?


Anecdotally, yes, there are people really for Trump.
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