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Message 1781341 - Posted: 22 Apr 2016, 18:02:16 UTC - in response to Message 1781339.  

How do you guys get so many of them? At max I get eight in a week.
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Message 1781344 - Posted: 22 Apr 2016, 18:16:33 UTC - in response to Message 1781341.  
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How do you guys get so many of them? At max I get eight in a week.


You have one (plus two androids) active host trying to get them, I do have eleven (with 9 GPU's) to catch them.

More computers with GPU -> more AP's

We (AP hunters) are talking total amount of AP's in progress in our all host.
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Message 1781363 - Posted: 22 Apr 2016, 20:23:03 UTC

The drought has started
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Message 1781367 - Posted: 22 Apr 2016, 20:42:05 UTC - in response to Message 1781341.  

How do you guys get so many of them? At max I get eight in a week.

On my astro only host I have an auto clicker that clicks the update button every 15mins. Currently got one crunching and six yet to start.

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Message 1783250 - Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 16:03:47 UTC - in response to Message 1783229.  

Sten I am totally prepared to get a lot of APs now we will have to see if the project chooses to cooperate.
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Message 1783502 - Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 15:38:56 UTC - in response to Message 1783456.  

Sten you are a lucky devil, I got 6 on one machine nothing on the other.
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Message 1783928 - Posted: 1 May 2016, 11:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 1783556.  

Sten you are a lucky devil, I got 6 on one machine nothing on the other.

Ah well, it ain't even worth trying to get AP only nowadays. :-(
I think I'll hit the bottle for the weekend instead :-)
Cheers, I'm off into the mist.

LOL...you're sounding like the ol' kittyman some weekends.
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Message 1784909 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 8:04:14 UTC

This is among the best haul of APs I've gotten in a long while. I've got 9 so far. One of them was a 100% blanked B3_P1, but there's still more channels to be split, and the feeder/scheduler seems to like me more than it usually does. Sure, there are a lot of "received 0 new tasks" in there, but in one request, I got four!
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Message 1784911 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 8:09:51 UTC

The kitties snagged 88 so far....
Mind you, that's across 9 rigs.
But, better than no kibbles at all!

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Message 1784919 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 9:49:06 UTC - in response to Message 1784911.  

My I-5 desktop got 11 and my I-7 laptop got 8 - that's 19 so far on 2 rigs. :o)
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Message 1784935 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 11:48:52 UTC - in response to Message 1784920.  

This is crap, and on top of that the credit since GBT, is dropping like a stone.
Maybe it's time to waste my electricity money on something other than this.

Let the Russian billionaire play with SETI, I'm getting tired of it.


So, you just run BOINC for the credit?
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Message 1784969 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 15:47:22 UTC - in response to Message 1784939.  

Well, rant indeed, but lets classify all the blame and try to find rationale.
First of all:

Let the Russian billionaire play with SETI, I'm getting tired of it.

Being mentioned once it's a joke, but twice or more - huh? You have some issues that no one but Russian give financial helping hand to SETI? If not then quite a strange way to show gratitude IMHO.


I run it (not BOINC, but SETI@home through BOINC, no other projects) mainly for the science, always have (heh, what science, I've begun to wonder), but credit is a valuable way to measure what you are producing, and how your computers and apps are doing, compared to other similar systems.

Yep, indeed RAC as performance measurement tool is easy one. But not too good one. Its limitations as such tool known for... decade? already. So it's just indirect indicator of performance "at all other equal conditions" no more than that.
To assess host performance in SETI terms there are offline benchmarks with specially selected sets of tasks. For example, Clean20 task for AP and PGv8 set for MB. They are not ideal too of course. So one can develop statistical approach or smth else. But RAC as performance measurement tool is bad one, easy, but bad one.


Had I been running for credits only, I would have been engaging in massive rescheduling of tasks, so I could reschedule AP's en masse to the GPU, when they are available. I know how to do it, and it would be easy to be cherry picking in that way. There are several other participants with high credits that are doing exactly that.

Well, to use available compute resources at its best isn't "cherry picking". To abort some tasks is, but to do VLAR on CPU and AstroPulse on ATi GPU (when available) - nothing bad in that. Yep, indeed, it could break in some extent work of another far from perfection tool called CreditScrew. But that tool screwed enough to bear another screwdriver :)


Talking about science though. We haven't seen a shred of scientific results, since SETI@home started way back in 1999. Show us som result of the alleged science perhaps, and the nagging from so many people around here about CreditNew, and credit at large, would perhaps slow down a bit.


Papers about SETI@home science and computing:

Status of the UC-Berkeley SETI Efforts (Korpela, et al. 2011)
New SETI Sky Surveys for Radio Pulses (Siemion, et al. 2008)
Statistics of One: What Earth can and can't tell us about life in the universe. (Korpela, 2004)
SETI@home: An Experiment in Public-Resource Computing (Anderson, et al. 2002)
SETI@home-Massively distributed computing for SETI (Korpela, et al. 2001)
A new major SETI project based on Project Serendip data and 100,000 personal computers (Sullivan, et al. 1997)

Yep, quite outdated list. I personally would like to have more or even much more too. But nevertheless, it's 1) not zero. 2) that non-zero is peer-reviewed.

NTPCkr could be not a single tool for post-processing of collected data.
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Message 1784972 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 15:49:26 UTC - in response to Message 1784939.  
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People may leave in droves, or in whatever other vehicle they may choose......

But the kitties shall remain.
They like their kibble creds, but that is not the main reason they are here.
Have a wonderful crunching day.

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Message 1784975 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 15:58:32 UTC

I only got 1 so far and I don't care. I shall continue to crunch and watch in morbid fascination as my RAC drops. I want to see how low it will go.
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Message 1785031 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 20:27:07 UTC

I'm still here and I don't plan on leaving. I know that someday, APs will come back into being available. I'm just riding out the drought, like we have done several times in the past...due to other reasons those times though. But still. IDGAF about credits to be perfectly honest. I just like doing APs because I think they have better luck of finding what we're looking for, and since they take longer to crunch, there's less WUs to keep an eye on (because I'm nosy and I look at the stderr for all of the ones I complete).

Granted, I do miss the glory days when APs gave out 1237cr each no matter what, but back in those days, they took 45+ hours each. That was back in the v5 days.. ancient history in computer terms.
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Message 1785032 - Posted: 5 May 2016, 20:46:24 UTC

In the last 4 1/2 hours I got another one.
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Message 1785099 - Posted: 6 May 2016, 3:05:36 UTC - in response to Message 1784935.  

So, you just run BOINC for the credit?

Lat's face it. People are competitive by nature. Naturally that will extend to this realm, no matter how altruistic folks otherwise are. To deny or ignore that aspect of motivation would be absurd.
But what's the difference? The whole point is to crunch data to the max. Why care what an individual uses as motivation??
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Message 1785130 - Posted: 6 May 2016, 6:19:19 UTC

And let's remember that Eric has indicated that AP work will be split from GBT data. It may be a little bit yet, but it will come.
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Message 1787090 - Posted: 12 May 2016, 20:04:35 UTC

They are being split again and I hope to get more than the 2 like I got last week.
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Message 1787097 - Posted: 12 May 2016, 20:47:15 UTC

Must have been a short run ...
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