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Message 1732922 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 16:51:58 UTC - in response to Message 1732905.  

Refugee riots in Europe blacked out in US media? Awww, bless your heart. Guess The Washington Post is media from outside the U.S. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/a-refugee-riot-puts-a-german-town-on-edge/2015/10/01/fa9075bc-65f5-11e5-bdb6-6861f4521205_story.html. It's time to be blunt: LIARS BUSTED AGAIN.

Not even in Russia media are refugee riots in Europe blacked out.
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Message 1732951 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 18:23:41 UTC
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Russia again!
U.S. officials say Russian missiles heading for Syria landed in Iran.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/08/politics/russian-missiles-syria-landed-iran/index.html

The Russia’s Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said it was a complete success!
And we are neighbours to that maniac regime in Kremlin!

https://youtu.be/G2TQ0wAfRts

http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2327679
https://twitter.com/Rogozin/status/652035204182343680/photo/1
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Message 1733155 - Posted: 9 Oct 2015, 13:44:57 UTC
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ISIS is advancing under the "helpfully" selective Russian bombing.
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8da5/uic0bgyht6s2ryfzg.jpg

Islamic state (IS) has taken several villages around Aleppo from other insurgent groups, in what is described as extremists greatest advancement in months. Advancement in Syria is despite intense Russian air bombings, said to be directed towards the IS.

- IS has never been so close to Aleppo, and this is their greatest advancement towards the city so far, says Abdel Rahman of the opposition Syrian Human Rights Observatory (Sohr) told AFP.

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Thanks Putin!
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Message 1733175 - Posted: 9 Oct 2015, 15:09:19 UTC - in response to Message 1733169.  
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BTW: The Obama Administration and Western Europe, are pathetic.

The Obama administration has ended the Pentagon’s $500 million program to train and equip Syrian rebels.
The change makes official what those in the Pentagon and elsewhere in the administration have been saying for several weeks would most likely happen, particularly in the wake of revelations that the program at one point last month had only “four or five” trainees in the fight in Syria — a far cry from the plan formally started in December to prepare as many as 5,400 fighters this year, and 15,000 over the next three years.
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Message 1733364 - Posted: 10 Oct 2015, 6:25:42 UTC - in response to Message 1732922.  
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Refugee riots in Europe blacked out in US media? Awww, bless your heart. Guess The Washington Post is media from outside the U.S. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/a-refugee-riot-puts-a-german-town-on-edge/2015/10/01/fa9075bc-65f5-11e5-bdb6-6861f4521205_story.html. It's time to be blunt: LIARS BUSTED AGAIN.

Not even in Russia media are refugee riots in Europe blacked out.


I wasn't actually responding to something someone said here or something that's true.

The poster who changes his screen name on a weekly basis or so claimed about 8 days ago that the media was not reporting on the Oregon shooter asking the religious affiliation of his victims.

Guy (Brutus) claimed that if the US currently had a Republican president, we'd hear the reports about the hospital recently struck and Doctors without Borders calling it a war crime.

On another site, a Jewish friend yesterday posted something along the lines of "See what happens when you let them in? Look what's happening in Europe! I hope we (in the US) don't let them in here as well." I think his concern about Muslims motivated the post, but the article he linked claimed the refugee riots were not being reported in the US.

1) I Checked frequently-changes-screen name's claim the next day after his post and the Associated Press was reporting that, indeed, the shooter had asked his victims about their religious affiliations.
2) I (truthfully) told Guy my cable TV had been out a month (it was just fixed yesterday) and that even so, I had heard about the hospital being struck despite the fact we currently have a Democrat for a President.
3) I did not respond to my friend on the other site. Instead, I posted what I posted here as my own "thread" and then a copied and pasted it here with the link that, indeed, the Washington Post had been reporting for at least a week already about Syrian refugees rioting (or Afghani or whatever).

It deeply disturbs me that, three times in a week, I could find three examples of claims so quickly and easily demonstrated as false. It makes it really really hard to listen to anything such a person says. That I still try to listen says I am neurotic or stupid or patient or wise. Darned if I know which one it really is.
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Message 1733516 - Posted: 10 Oct 2015, 22:03:42 UTC - in response to Message 1733364.  

Sarge,

I think you have noticed that some posters here seem to get all their "information" from a single opinion site and their minds are hermetically sealed to any other source of factual news. It is not unlike a believer in a mythical man in the sky and the mythical laws the mythical man has mythically promulgated.

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." - Abraham Lincoln

Our posters seem to fit into the second clause "You can fool some of the people all the time." Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything anyone can do to help them break their hermetic seal. It is like trying to teach a pig to fly.
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Message 1733986 - Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 14:18:14 UTC - in response to Message 1733981.  

The Middle East is the cradle of the western civilization.
Makes you think...

Wonder when Saudi Arabia starts to intervene...
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Message 1733998 - Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 15:22:33 UTC - in response to Message 1733990.  
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The Middle East is the cradle of the western civilization.
Makes you think...

Wonder when Saudi Arabia starts to intervene...

Excepting money:

Intervene with what? A few 'Targeted' Air Strikes?

The military deterioration of this Religious Civil War, is beyond being helped by the above.

Religious Civil War?
Whatever.
Think again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_Index_of_National_Capability
The components represent demographic, economic, and military strength.[1] More recent studies tend to use the (CINC) score, which “focuses on measures that are more salient to the perception of true state power” beyond GDP.[2] It is still “among the best-known and most accepted methods for measuring national capabilities.”[3] The CINC only measures hard powers and may not represent total national power.

Countries listed by CINC, data is from 2007.
US: 2
Russia: 5
Turkey: 12
Iran: 15
Saudi: 20
Iraq: 36
Syria: 40
Israel: 46
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Message 1734048 - Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 21:24:25 UTC - in response to Message 1734015.  

Religious Civil War?

Yes.
Just ask ISIS, The Taliban, Fanatical Sunni, Fanatical Shiite's, etc.

I would say just ask the others.
Those groups you mention have not read the Quran or the prophet's hadiths.
Prophet Muhammad (saw) said:
"None of you is truly a believer until he wishes the same for his brother whom he wishes for himself"

The spread of Islam stands in contrast to the actions of the followers of Christianity, which since the time of the Emperor Constantine have made liberal use of the sword - often based on verses from the Bible. This is well known and true, especially when you look back on the colonization of South America and Africa, where native peoples were systematically wiped out or forced to convert.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.islamguiden.com%2Fmissupp6.shtml%23.Vh111fbtlBc&edit-text=
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Message 1734230 - Posted: 14 Oct 2015, 18:50:26 UTC - in response to Message 1734081.  

Christianity also has its past. But evolved beyond its own barbarism.
Apparently NOT!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/14/police-say-couple-beat-son-to-death-in-new-york-church/
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Message 1734237 - Posted: 14 Oct 2015, 20:25:46 UTC - in response to Message 1734230.  

Christianity also has its past. But evolved beyond its own barbarism.
Apparently NOT!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/14/police-say-couple-beat-son-to-death-in-new-york-church/


Ugh,

Knew someone from New Hartford.
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Message 1734379 - Posted: 15 Oct 2015, 13:56:48 UTC - in response to Message 1639060.  

Catholicism?
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Message 1734566 - Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 4:41:03 UTC - in response to Message 1734391.  

Christianity also has its past. But evolved beyond its own barbarism.
Apparently NOT!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/14/police-say-couple-beat-son-to-death-in-new-york-church/

Who would equate/compare this individual heinous act with The Jihadists, Taliban etc.?
What? You don't think that comparing one follower of the God of Abraham to another follower of the God of Abraham is valid? Does that hit too close to your own comfort? Are you trying to say The Jihadists, Taliban don't do things with individual heinous acts? Is it because they get away with more acts? Every group starts with the first act! Or, are you denying that as well?
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Message 1734602 - Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 10:25:45 UTC
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Bombing in Ankara: "The police do not want to solve it"
SvD was in place when the two women who died in Saturday's bomb attack in Ankara was buried in the city of Izmir. According to Meliha Toplayici, who went in the demonstration when the bomb exploded, she and others who tried to help the injured was threatened by the police.
"They asked why we cried in Kurdish and said we would cry in Turkish, otherwise they would massacre us."
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Meanwhile...
The EU's and Turkey's leaders at the summit in Brussels approved a roadmap with a view to curtail the influx of immigrants to Europe, says European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker.
Participants in the summit also pledged not to drag on the Turkey's application for EU membership.
Does the EU now accept Turkey as a member?
A country with little Human Rights and that are oppressing minorities?
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Message 1734664 - Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 14:29:48 UTC - in response to Message 1734661.  

Christianity also has its past. But evolved beyond its own barbarism.
Apparently NOT!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/14/police-say-couple-beat-son-to-death-in-new-york-church/

Who would equate/compare this individual heinous act with The Jihadists, Taliban etc.?
What? You don't think that comparing one follower of the God of Abraham to another follower of the God of Abraham is valid? Does that hit too close to your own comfort? Are you trying to say The Jihadists, Taliban don't do things with individual heinous acts? Is it because they get away with more acts? Every group starts with the first act! Or, are you denying that as well?

Gary...

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Is not the KKK an extremist Christian group that hs and, to a degree, continues to commit widespread terror?
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Message 1734694 - Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 16:47:07 UTC - in response to Message 1734676.  
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Christianity also has its past. But evolved beyond its own barbarism.
Apparently NOT!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/14/police-say-couple-beat-son-to-death-in-new-york-church/

Who would equate/compare this individual heinous act with The Jihadists, Taliban etc.?
What? You don't think that comparing one follower of the God of Abraham to another follower of the God of Abraham is valid? Does that hit too close to your own comfort? Are you trying to say The Jihadists, Taliban don't do things with individual heinous acts? Is it because they get away with more acts? Every group starts with the first act! Or, are you denying that as well?

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Is not the KKK an extremist Christian group that hs and, to a degree, continues to commit widespread terror?

Attribution? Including 'the numbers'.

It is the Extremest Islamist, who are committing these mass murdering, raping, enslavement, and atrocities. In The Name of Their Religion.

Today: What mass murdering, raping, enslavement, and atrocities, are being committed in The Name of Christianity? Not just by people who happen to be Christians, Buddhists, etc.

Sarge...

You made the comment. Please educate us with 'the numbers'.


http://www.christianpost.com/news/kkk-leader-were-a-christian-organization-claims-the-klan-is-not-a-hate-group-116614/

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/stormfront

Created by former Alabama Klan boss and long-time white supremacist Don Black in 1995, Stormfront was the first major hate site on the Internet.


... Southern Poverty Law Center’s exposure of the identity of many Stormfront funders and the fact its registered users have been behind almost 100 murders ...


http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/kkk/default.html?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=kkk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
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Message 1734695 - Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 16:48:14 UTC

When does it become "mass" murder?
10? 20? 100? 1000?
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Message 1734697 - Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 17:02:09 UTC - in response to Message 1734694.  

http://www.christianpost.com/news/kkk-leader-were-a-christian-organization-claims-the-klan-is-not-a-hate-group-116614/

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/stormfront

Created by former Alabama Klan boss and long-time white supremacist Don Black in 1995, Stormfront was the first major hate site on the Internet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

This pic is from Finland(!) only two weeks ago
Finnish nationalists in KKK uniforms attack refugees with stones and fireworks.

Hyvä Suomi means Go Finland.
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Message 1735475 - Posted: 19 Oct 2015, 18:21:21 UTC

Anybody surprised?
As Russia’s air war in Syria nears its fourth week, officials now admit that Moscow’s aim is far broader than the publicly announced fight against terrorist groups.
The Kremlin’s real goal is to help Syrian President Bashar al-Assad retake as much as possible of the territory his forces have lost to opponents, including U.S.-backed rebels, Russian officials told Bloomberg News. Moscow’s deployment of several dozen planes, as well as ships in the Black and Caspian Seas, could last a year or more, one official said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-19/putin-officials-said-to-admit-real-syrian-goals-are-far-broader
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