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Message 1639005 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 19:05:51 UTC

It's a shame that it took a repulsive barbaric incident to toughen their spines...

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Message 1639052 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 21:35:55 UTC - in response to Message 1639005.  

It's a shame that it took a repulsive barbaric incident to toughen their spines...

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It is a religion for barbarians, why is it surprising that a barbaric incident is needed?
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Message 1639054 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 21:47:10 UTC - in response to Message 1639052.  

It is a religion for barbarians, why is it surprising that a barbaric incident is needed?

Tone down on the racism would you.
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Message 1639060 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 22:20:14 UTC - in response to Message 1639054.  

It is a religion for barbarians, why is it surprising that a barbaric incident is needed?

Tone down on the racism would you.

How is it racist?

A religion that subjugates women & permits child marriages/rapes is barbaric!
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Message 1639062 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 22:20:35 UTC - in response to Message 1639054.  

Commenting on a culture is not racist.
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Message 1639079 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 22:50:51 UTC - in response to Message 1639054.  

It is a religion for barbarians, why is it surprising that a barbaric incident is needed?

Tone down on the racism would you.

AFIK all who join are required to affirmatively state their intent and they accept all races and mixtures. It is a culture, not a race. A culture of barbarians as it has not evolved from the 4th century.
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Message 1639085 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 23:01:34 UTC - in response to Message 1639062.  

Commenting on a culture is not racist.

Generalizing over a billion people from all over the world and judging them as 'barbaric' because they belong to a superficially similar group of people is racist as hell. You almost can't get more racist than that. Furthermore, you no longer get to use "its just 'commenting' on a culture" as an acceptable excuse.
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Message 1639093 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 23:10:58 UTC - in response to Message 1639079.  
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It is a religion for barbarians, why is it surprising that a barbaric incident is needed?

Tone down on the racism would you.

AFIK all who join are required to affirmatively state their intent and they accept all races and mixtures. It is a culture, not a race. A culture of barbarians as it has not evolved from the 4th century.

Really? You are gonna defend yourself based on the fact technically you are not a racist because what you just generalized is technically not limited to a specific race. To bad for you then that your ignorant hatred and bigotry against Islam is deeply rooted within Western anti-Arab stereotypes (that I should add, have been around for centuries, orientalists attitudes such as these are nothing new ) and is therefor most certainly based on race. Sorry, but you can't escape your cultural background.

In any case, if it makes you happier, I will instead ask you to tone down your ignorant bigotry.
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Message 1639096 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 23:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 1639085.  

Commenting on a culture is not racist.

Generalizing over a billion people from all over the world and judging them as 'barbaric' because they belong to a superficially similar group of people is racist as hell. You almost can't get more racist than that. Furthermore, you no longer get to use "its just 'commenting' on a culture" as an acceptable excuse.

So commenting on child brides, child rapes, subjugating women, executing women because they brought dishonour to the family by refusing to marry a man unknown to her, constantly having to cover their heads whenever a man enters their home, all this is racist?

I've said this before, take a gap year out from under those musty smelling books & see that "big" world that exists outside of academia & you might just see that Islam is not only a religion but a culture.
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Message 1639109 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 23:34:05 UTC - in response to Message 1639096.  
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So commenting on child brides, child rapes, subjugating women, executing women because they brought dishonour to the family by refusing to marry a man unknown to her, constantly having to cover their heads whenever a man enters their home, all this is racist?

Pretending that over a billion people, whose only common denominator is that they follow a religion named Islam, all take child brides, child rape, subjugating women and executing women is racist yes. Generalizing and stereotyping like this is racist.


I've said this before, take a gap year out from under those musty smelling books & see that "big" world that exists outside of academia & you might just see that Islam is not only a religion but a culture.

And if you had any clue of that same big world you keep claiming I should see, you would know that Islam has over a billion followers spread all over the world. And yet you claim they are all part of this singular 'culture' which is supposedly based entirely on Western stereotypes of Arabs?

Yeah no, perhaps you should take a gap year of your 'real world' and spend some time getting a fething education.
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Message 1639112 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 23:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 1639109.  
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Who mentioned Arabs? Seeing things in words that are not there? Time for you to take a break...


...have a Kit-Kat :-)

P.S. Those billion are not all in one location!

We must respect them, their culture & religion, but they won't respect us, something has to give, so will you step aside just so you can have a quiet life?
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Message 1639117 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 23:54:58 UTC - in response to Message 1639112.  
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Who mentioned Arabs? Seeing things in words that are not there? Time for you to take a break...


...have a Kit-Kat :-)

You mentioned them, only you don't realize that you did. That whole bit about honor killings and marrying child brides and stuff? Thats a Western stereotype of what Arabs are like. And by using those stereotypes of Arabs as stereotypes of what Islam is supposedly like, you link Islam with Arabs, like they are the same thing, which is of course nonsense.

And what do you mean, they don't respect us? Are they not free to use their right to free speech to protest against what others have said? Free speech does not mean that people can't publicly disagree with what you said.
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Message 1639121 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 23:56:33 UTC - in response to Message 1639117.  
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Who mentioned Arabs? Seeing things in words that are not there? Time for you to take a break...


...have a Kit-Kat :-)

You mentioned them, only you don't realize that you did. That whole bit about honor killings and marrying child brides and stuff? Thats a Western stereotype of what Arabs are like. And by using those stereotypes of Arabs as stereotypes of what Islam is supposedly like, you link Islam with Arabs, like they are the same thing, which is of course nonsense.

Stop talking out of your butt! We have had several in this region within the past 12 months, since when has Pakistan been a part of Arabia?
Make sure of your facts...

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Message 1639123 - Posted: 8 Feb 2015, 23:59:14 UTC - in response to Message 1639121.  

Stop talking out of your butt! We have had several in this region within the past 12 months, since when has Pakistan been a part of Arabia?

Hey, youre the one throwing over 1 billion people on one giant pile, not me.
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Message 1639126 - Posted: 9 Feb 2015, 0:02:41 UTC - in response to Message 1639123.  
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Stop talking out of your butt! We have had several in this region within the past 12 months, since when has Pakistan been a part of Arabia?

Hey, youre the one throwing over 1 billion people on one giant pile, not me.

So over 1 billion in the Islamic faith are all Arab? Thanks for educating me, I'll think before I post on this topic in future.
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Message 1639131 - Posted: 9 Feb 2015, 0:08:58 UTC - in response to Message 1639126.  

Stop talking out of your butt! We have had several in this region within the past 12 months, since when has Pakistan been a part of Arabia?

Hey, youre the one throwing over 1 billion people on one giant pile, not me.

So over 1 billion in the Islamic faith are all Arab?

*roll eyes*

I know, reading is hard. No, I'm not saying that, Im saying you are saying that whenever you make such dumb generalizations about Islam and how barbaric it is as a culture, because you (and Gary) draw on a number of common Arab stereotypes and equate those with Islam in general.

Its like saying that all Christians are filthy perverts because they are drunk pedophiles who also love to molest sheep. In there I drew upon a number of (dumb and ignorant) stereotypes about the Irish, and because the Irish are generally Christians I expand the stereotyping to all Christians. See how dumb that is? Well, thats what you do when you and Gary make these kind of comments about Muslims.
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Message 1639133 - Posted: 9 Feb 2015, 0:12:45 UTC - in response to Message 1639131.  

Fair enough reply, but I still can't fathom out how you equate what I know from experience & also see every day from a predominantly Pakistani community, that I'm stereotyping all of Islam as Arabs...

...still scratching his head atm...
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Message 1639134 - Posted: 9 Feb 2015, 0:18:25 UTC - in response to Message 1639093.  

It is a religion for barbarians, why is it surprising that a barbaric incident is needed?

Tone down on the racism would you.

AFIK all who join are required to affirmatively state their intent and they accept all races and mixtures. It is a culture, not a race. A culture of barbarians as it has not evolved from the 4th century.

Really? You are gonna defend yourself based on the fact technically you are not a racist because what you just generalized is technically not limited to a specific race. To bad for you then that your ignorant hatred and bigotry against Islam is deeply rooted within Western anti-Arab stereotypes (that I should add, have been around for centuries, orientalists attitudes such as these are nothing new ) and is therefor most certainly based on race. Sorry, but you can't escape your cultural background.

In any case, if it makes you happier, I will instead ask you to tone down your ignorant bigotry.

IS is Islam! They are the caliphate. They speak with the sole voice of Islam. If you do not follow them, you are not a Muslim.

Now do you understand?
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Message 1639145 - Posted: 9 Feb 2015, 0:35:02 UTC - in response to Message 1639134.  

Not quite, IS is perverting Islam to suit its needs. What I find annoying with our authorities is that islam that can insult us, burn our flags & bibles, but god forbid we return the favour & it's war!
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