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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Trump withdraws from Paris climate agreement. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Trump withdraws from Paris climate agreement. Sigh........... Tonight, President Donald Trump left the dreaded message: the United States withdraws from the Paris agreement. The country will thus be the first to leave the 2015 comprehensive climate agreement, of the 195 countries that wrote it. What does Trump from Karlstad mean by being punished! It's we other 194 countries that will be punished by Trump! Thank you very much says we other 194 countries on our planet! USA First policy turns out to be USA Alone policy! Carl Bildt@carlbildt former PM and FM of Sweden President Trump triumphantly announced that he was elected by Pittsburgh rather than Paris. Well, actually, he lost in Pittsburgh. Climate experts, governments and organizations in several countries have warned for far-reaching consequences if the US decides to leave. "The United States is the world's second largest country of emissions (after China) and when such a country leaves such an important deal, it gives very serious signals" |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30706 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Trump withdraws from Paris climate agreement. How long before the retaliatory trade measures go in place? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
"The United States will open negotiations to re-enter either the Paris Agreement or a completely different transaction, under conditions that are fair for the United States, its company, its workers, its people and its taxpayers," said Trump in the statement. US taxpayers? We 194 other countries don't give a s**t about them. Why should we? Different countries, different tax regulations. In the end it will be us 194 countries paying for US's welfare. Why should we? We have problem on our own. Get it Trump? It's no fun anymore Trump! https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/1611151200000/america-new_york/yodhms/FFFFFF3B5998000000FF0000/Time_Until_Trump_Leaves_Office |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Jan a problem is if our obese leader with small hands leaves office then Pence becomes president. That also would be very very bad. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Jan a problem is if our obese leader with small hands leaves office then Pence becomes president. That also would be very very bad. Yes. I know:( Now I'm starting shaking... Pence a president... I think I will need some Covfefe to calm me down! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30706 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Jan a problem is if our obese leader with small hands leaves office then Pence becomes president. That also would be very very bad. I'd suggest you PM chicken stacker / dull / worm / etc and find out what he uses and get a double. |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
For those who need some good news right now... You can't fight the economics of being green and leaving a small footprint. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
En Garde! Macron Trolls Trump, Wants to ‘Make Our Planet Great Again’ http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-40125579/paris-climate-deal-macron-pledges-to-make-planet-great-again "If we do nothing, our children will know a world of migrations, of wars, of shortage. A dangerous world," said Macron to open his English-language statement, referring to the controversial theory that climate change is a national security risk. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Climate experts, governments and organizations in several countries have warned for far-reaching consequences if the US decides to leave. Perhaps Trump and his followers should go to Mars! Probably MUCH cheaper! For ALL of us! |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Trump our obese great leader with small hands has joined Syria and Nicaragua on climate change, truly making Amerika great. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Trump our obese great leader with small hands has joined Syria and Nicaragua on climate change, truly making Amerika great. Syria? Great. But what faction? Daesh or al-Assad? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 35002 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Trump our obese great leader with small hands has joined Syria and Nicaragua on climate change, truly making Amerika great. Both are terrorists arn't they? Cheers. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Trump our obese great leader with small hands has joined Syria and Nicaragua on climate change, truly making Amerika great. Daesh 100% al-Assad Only Russia can tell. Both factions and some other that I don't remember the names of cares nothing about climate change. Strange but true. Here's a very nice Nasheed how Syria and Iraq want their land to be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_tjxz4yS_U Both Ramadan and Friday today. إن شاء الله سو٠تسود الأرض God willing, the earth will prevail:) |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Syria? Yes |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Syria? Perhaps Trump's next ally in this matter will be North Korea:( :( Today all is a mess.... |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Trump our obese great leader with small hands has joined Syria and Nicaragua on climate change, truly making Amerika great. Sorry, even though I dislike Trump as much or more than the rest of you, I must say that in THIS case, he was correct in leaving the Paris Accord. While Syria and Nicaragua did not sign the accord, it was for 2 different reasons. 1. Syria was NOT invited. 2. Nicaragua did not sign because the Paris Accord did NOT do enough -- specifically, it was that the ghg-reductions from each nation were just pledges/promises and NOT firm commitments -- also there is no enforcement mechanism beyond 'shame on you'. Also there is insufficient ghg-reductions to hold the temperature rise to less-than-or-equal-to 2 °C by 2100. It will be around a 3 °C rise instead per the UNEP. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/03/world-on-track-for-3c-of-warming-under-current-global-climate-pledges-warns-un https://europa.eu/capacity4dev/unep/document/emissions-gap-report-2016-unep-synthesis-report Remember, under Paris agreement we will have about a 3 °C warming by 2100. To hold that to a 2 °C warming we will need a rather large amount of additional reductions, something on the order of an additional 14 GtCO2e of reductions in yearly emissions OVER AND ABOVE the Paris agreement emissions reduction levels. Sorry, Paris agreement does not go far enough in its emissions cuts and it has NO teeth. Trump was CORRECT in pulling out. We need another one that WILL address the issue properly. Also it must NOT give any nation a free-pass exemption from any of the provisions... at all... ever. <points at China/> https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30706 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Trump our obese great leader with small hands has joined Syria and Nicaragua on climate change, truly making Amerika great. Except he is screaming mine that coal baby mine that coal. Drill baby drill that oil. Burn baby burn that CO2 belching fossil fuel. If he were serious about reductions, he would be denying that climate change even exists and calling it fake. Unless you think Pence is going to do more and are sure of a change in power. Otherwise it just got vastly harder to have any reduction at all. tRump the future baby killer! Then again maybe the rest of the countries will impose a carbon cap and trade tax on the USA and we will be the only country forced to completely meet the goals or pay through the nose. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19117 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I think your reasoning is wrong. You maybe right in that the Paris agreement doesn't go far enough, BUT that is not Trumps reason for withdrawing. Yes, the reductions by each nation are voluntary, but it was that way because getting all nations to agree specific figures would be an absolute impossibility at this stage. And probably will not be reduced further because the so called leader has pulled out and his declared policies will do nothing to improve the situation. Yes, the reductions are not enough, but it is recognised this is just one step forward, and that will be further steps before 2100. And the reason it has no teeth, is probably down to the US more than anything else, the reductions per capita required of the US would never be acceptable by most US citizens. The reason Trump doesn't want this treaty is because he wants the US to go backwards. Bringing back coal and blue collar jobs and rejecting technology to that period when the USA was Great. (Could you give me a date for that) If you have read the news you will have seen China and India have cancelled the building of coal fired power stations, because solar is now cheaper. |
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