Just so people don't start panicking or making wild claims on these message boards, I figured I'd warn y'all that within a day or two some old SETI data will be split into workunits.

This doesn't mean anything - I just happened to find an old stash of data tapes that didn't get properly split the first time around. In fact, you may see a lot of these old tapes getting thrown into the queue at random for a while.

It's still good data even though it isn't "fresh." The probability of ET contacting us four years ago is the same as four months ago.

- Matt

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-- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person
-- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude

Thanks, Matt.

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> The probability of ET
> contacting us four years ago is the same as four months ago.

Well.. given that our planet seems to have gone crazy during the last 3-4 years I'm not completely sure that the probability is the same. If I were an ET I'd prefer to look into any other planet around first.

G

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Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms (Groucho Marx)

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I really don't care if the data is "fresh", so long as the data is crunched. I abhor leaving jobs undone, and we should crunch every last unit. As a psych would say, "It's closure".

[honk] [honk]!

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> It's still good data even though it isn't "fresh." The probability of ET
> contacting us four years ago is the same as four months ago.
>
> - Matt
>

Thanks Matt,
As already said earlier, “I really don't care if its fresh or not” as long as there is data to crunched we'll crunch it.

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Happy crunching

Just so people don't start panicking or making wild claims on these message boards
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Well you know thats exactly whats going to happen Matt because most people are not going to read this and start their own threads about the WU's ...

I hate it when other people are right on the money and post before I get a chance to say it. +1.

In order to satiate my curiosity, how would the users know? Are the WU filenames time-stamped? All the BOINC output I get just tells me that it's uploading, downloading, starting, or finishing a WU...

[EDIT] WTF is wrong with you people? Stop -1ing every post I make.

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Hi Neo, the way that user would know is by looking at the seti app graphics as it gives the time and date the unit was recorded. But since you run a non-graphics version, there is no way you would know.

That explains a lot .o0(Except for calling me "Neo") Couldn't that information be output to BOINC's stdout like the old SETI?

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>That explains a lot .o0(Except for calling me "Neo")
>Couldn't that information be output to BOINC's stdout like the old SETI?

It could, but wouldn't be worth the duplication effort, since it is already in the graphics. Please remember that Boinc is designed to be the control program of many various projects, one of which is SETI. The newest version of Boinc that is undergoing testing in Alpha will give all platforms the Boinc core client and a gui called the BoincManager. The information that you asked for here and in another thread will be available in the Manager.

It's a bit... well... frustrating that graphical versions get more information about what's going on than text-only versions.

Alright... I'll sit tight until then. Thanks for the replies! :-)

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I know that CLI (text) version of classic worked much faster. I also think that it's the same by boinc. But I never found any page or adress that would have a text version of boinc. I downloaded the boinc client that is on the seti@boinc page. Plz help.

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You can tell the date recorded from the WU filename. The first 2 digits are the day, the next 2 digits are the month, the next 2 digits are the year, and the 4th group of 2 digits is the tape. For example some of the work on this computer right now starts with 20ap04ab so that workunit is from the second tape recorded on 04/20/2004. I don't know if the coordinates are coded into the filename but there are lot of numbers that it could be.

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> within a day or two some old SETI data will be split into workunits.

My old 64 MB P-II waits with baited breath! Will this "old SETI data" be processable on just-under 64 MB? I look forward to the day when the "new" WUs will specify a minimum memory requirement of, say, 62 MB instead of 64, since a small amount of RAM is consumed for ROM shadowing, leaving only about 63 MB visible to Windows. The old box hardly ever gets work to do.

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Help keep SETI@home alive! Join The Planetary Society and crunch for our team!

Actually, that's a good question: I've got an couple of old Macs that I'd like to have crunch at least one WU - What's the minimum RAM requirement. I think it would be rather fun to guess how long it would take a Mac Plus to complete a single WU (68000@8 &le;4MB with the 20MB HD via SWIM)

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Matt: thank you very much , for this information. I am learnig so much from reading tis board every day !

Matt Lebofsky (Project administrator) wrote the following:

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> Just so people don't start panicking or making wild claims
> on these message boards, I figured I'd warn y'all that within
> a day or two some old SETI data will be split into workunits.
> It's still good data even though it isn't "fresh." The probability of ET
> contacting us four years ago is the same as four months ago.
>
> - Matt
>
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thanks Matt, David, Eric, Jeff, Rom, John Keck , who has been Beta testing Boinc since 12 of December, 2002 . Janus, The Big Jens and , sooooo many, many more from all over the world

Boinc is the best and is getting better every day.

I stated beta testing Boinc on the 11 th of July, 2003 and continued 24/7 ever since with the only two fast computers I own Dell work station (fairly fast computers 2.4 and a total of 8 cup's )

My old 128 MB , Pentium - 1 (233) W98SE , did some beta testing of Boinc , I think at that time , it was Beta - Boinc version 2.X (not sure) but with the debuging code in the SETI@home work unit , it would take my old computer , one week for my old computer , to complete one SETI@home work unit LOL _ :)

Happy crunching and Best wishes to all _ :)

I can hard wait until they pull the plug on SETI@home Classic , 4 to 6 weeks ??

friendly and respectful
and sad
byron

> You can tell the date recorded from the WU filename. The first 2 digits are
> the day, the next 2 digits are the month, the next 2 digits are the year, and
> the 4th group of 2 digits is the tape. For example some of the work on this
> computer right now starts with 20ap04ab so that workunit is from the second
> tape recorded on 04/20/2004. I don't know if the coordinates are coded into
> the filename but there are lot of numbers that it could be.
>

I had previously worked out that the first part of the name was the recorded date so I never bothered to look at the date on the graphics. I just looked and found that the graphics for the two that are being crunched at the moment show the recorded date is one day later. Is anyone else seeing this as well?

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Anthony

> I know that CLI (text) version of classic worked much faster. I also think
> that it's the same by boinc. But I never found any page or adress that would
> have a text version of boinc. I downloaded the boinc client that is on the
> seti@boinc page. Plz help.
>
No in Boinc there is no speed advantage in running either version. There IS a hit if you actually run the screen saver, but not the data processing. The screen saver itself is buggy and has caused many people problems. During the install just uncheck the box for the screen saver and the program will run just fine.

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> > within a day or two some old SETI data will be split into workunits.
>
> My old 64 MB P-II waits with baited breath! Will this "old SETI data" be
> processable on just-under 64 MB? I look forward to the day when the "new" WUs
> will specify a minimum memory requirement of, say, 62 MB instead of 64, since
> a small amount of RAM is consumed for ROM shadowing, leaving only about 63 MB
> visible to Windows. The old box hardly ever gets work to do.
>
64 meg of ram IS the minimum required to run the program now. Ram, especially OLD RAM, can be purchased real cheap at the local mom and pop computer store, or if you have one, a store that sells used computer stuff. Just take one piece of ram out and take it with you, most stores have a tester that can tell you what you have, just buy the same thing. Your manual, you did save it RIGHT, will tell you if it needs to be installed in pairs or one at a time.

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> Just so people don't start panicking or making wild claims on these message
> boards, I figured I'd warn y'all that within a day or two some old SETI data
> will be split into workunits.
>
> This doesn't mean anything - I just happened to find an old stash of data
> tapes that didn't get properly split the first time around. In fact, you may
> see a lot of these old tapes getting thrown into the queue at random for a
> while.
>
> It's still good data even though it isn't "fresh." The probability of ET
> contacting us four years ago is the same as four months ago.
>
> - Matt
>

No probs, but I am interested to know how old are we talking about? As a relative newbie to S@H some older WUs could fill some gaps in my Seti@Home Map View calender view!