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Message 1581494 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 14:28:38 UTC

I am trying running my amd r7 265 with the 7770 and the 6570. We shall see what happens. It's only lost points if it doesn't work. I want to know for sure.
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Message 1581496 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 14:33:08 UTC - in response to Message 1581494.  

Sorry Merle i do have AMD but it's only the first time i have bought a AMD and have no idea what a r7 265 is . I take it the 7770 is the GPU ? sorry i use Nvidia so can't help there either
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Message 1581499 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 14:41:42 UTC - in response to Message 1581496.  

Glen,

All three are amd gpu's . From rated gflops ranging from 624 to 1280 to 1843.
I always have used amd gpu's just like I have always used intel cpu's.
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Message 1581502 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 14:48:24 UTC - in response to Message 1581499.  
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...All three are amd gpu's . From rated gflops ranging from 624 to 1280 to 1843.
I always have used amd gpu's just like I have always used intel cpu's.

What should concern you is the 6570 needs an unroll of around 8 whereas the r265 needs around 20. You do remember what happened with the 4670 set at 18. It will work, just not very efficiently.
You never did explain why the Dell hates the 6570. Have you updated the Dell's BIOS? How were you connecting the 4670 & 6570? Slots? Cables? What Error were you receiving with the 6570/Dell?

BTW, your 4670 shows Many Exits. Some have noticed BOINC 7.2.42 sometimes Exits too frequently. You can fix that by changing the BOINC Preferences to Disable "while processor usage is less than ___ percent' Entering a ZERO will disable it.
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Message 1581512 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 15:10:34 UTC - in response to Message 1581502.  

Screens were flashing. The whole graphic system just went crazy. I have never flashed the dell bios. I have flashed the bios on my asrock and it went smoothly. That is the machine that is running the three gpu's. It has a unroll of 18.

I don't care if the 6570 is a little inefficient there as long as it gets it's work done. From the graph I get from MSI Afterburner it is running fine at around 75% of capacity on it's current wu. That's better than just sitting in it's box gathering dust. I'm not big on selling stuff on ebay. I'll just have to wait and see how well it does or doesn't perform.

The dell is my everyday computer. I do a lot of other stuff on it. When I read up on flashing the bios, there were so many warnings I didn't want to screw it up so I left it alone. The 4670 is working fine on it. Do you think that flashing the bios would have something to do with the 6570 working there? When the 4670 croaks, I'll put the other 6570 in there if flashing the bios would help. What do you think? I hate to have to piss around with dell again. I keep running into trouble with them. Not that their a bad company. I'm just jinxed with them.
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Message 1581513 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 15:15:24 UTC - in response to Message 1581512.  

Screens were flashing. The whole graphic system just went crazy. I have never flashed the dell bios. I have flashed the bios on my asrock and it went smoothly. That is the machine that is running the three gpu's. It has a unroll of 18.

I don't care if the 6570 is a little inefficient there as long as it gets it's work done. From the graph I get from MSI Afterburner it is running fine at around 75% of capacity on it's current wu. That's better than just sitting in it's box gathering dust. I'm not big on selling stuff on ebay. I'll just have to wait and see how well it does or doesn't perform.

The dell is my everyday computer. I do a lot of other stuff on it. When I read up on flashing the bios, there were so many warnings I didn't want to screw it up so I left it alone. The 4670 is working fine on it. Do you think that flashing the bios would have something to do with the 6570 working there? When the 4670 croaks, I'll put the other 6570 in there if flashing the bios would help. What do you think? I hate to have to piss around with dell again. I keep running into trouble with them. Not that their a bad company. I'm just jinxed with them.

Upgrading the BIOS on your Dell should be pretty easy. Normally they have an option for a Windows exe. You run it & then reboot when it tells you to do so.
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Message 1581515 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 15:21:46 UTC - in response to Message 1581512.  
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Yes, unless there is something wrong with the 6570, flashing the Dell BIOS will probably fix it. Otherwise, unless you are trying to connect a card with an extender cable, the Dell should be fine. Some Dells don't take well to PCIe bridges and extender cables. I have an old AGP PowerEdge that will not take a PCIe bridge.
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Message 1581516 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 15:22:52 UTC - in response to Message 1581513.  

Hal,
What do I do? Go into the bios and look for something?

Remember I'm not the brightest bulb of the lot. :-)
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Message 1581517 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 15:24:19 UTC - in response to Message 1581515.  

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yes, I used an extender cable once. No good.

I also tried just running the 6570 alone. No good.
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Message 1581519 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 15:28:43 UTC

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It exits a lot because I have it set in the options to shut down every time I am using the computer for something else. This gives me a nice clean graphics card to work with. So it slows it down, so I don't care. It still works good.
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Message 1581520 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 15:29:44 UTC - in response to Message 1581517.  
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TBar,
yes, I used an extender cable once. No good.

I also tried just running the 6570 alone. No good.

Try flashing the BIOS before anything else. Just Google the model name/number followed by BIOS. Get the BIOS.exe from Dell, no one else.
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Message 1581528 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 15:54:58 UTC - in response to Message 1581520.  

TBar,

It worked. It worked. I love ya.

Went from version v07 to v16. I never knew you could do that. Slick.

That warning on the bios I was talking about:: Now I remember that was on my prior computer. A white box I had built for me about 10 years ago. It had two Xeons in it. A gigabyte MB if I remember correctly. But that's 50/50.

So now I guess I just replace the 4670 with the 6570. Unroll of what?


Thanks, thanks.
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Message 1581533 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 16:06:17 UTC - in response to Message 1581528.  

TBar,

It worked. It worked. I love ya.

Went from version v07 to v16. I never knew you could do that. Slick.

That warning on the bios I was talking about:: Now I remember that was on my prior computer. A white box I had built for me about 10 years ago. It had two Xeons in it. A gigabyte MB if I remember correctly. But that's 50/50.

So now I guess I just replace the 4670 with the 6570. Unroll of what?


Thanks, thanks.

I would try an -unroll of 6. You need to run the ATI 12.4 installer again after installing the 6570, and make sure GPU-z sees OpenCL on the 6570 before running BOINC. Attaching the 4670 with a cable may or may Not work. Try the 6570 by itself first.
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Message 1581539 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 16:23:18 UTC - in response to Message 1581519.  
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Do you have an UPS?
Because if electricity stops during the flash ... :(

More precautions:
- if the computer have habit to hang or crash (e.g. because of Overclock) - do not attempt flash
- Get the proper BIOS, even the same model motherboard may have versions (e.g. v1.0 v1.2 v2.0 - usually printed on it)

- Exit all programs - browsers, BOINC, players, Skype, ... anything that can do ... something ;)
- update the Antivirus signatures, do or disable the scheduled scan, even disable Real-time protection
(all this - to avoid any heavy background process to start during the flash)

- Do not touch mouse or keyboard during the flash
- Kick the cat out the room
- Pray


Edit:
I was too slow to compose the post (was distracted away from computer)
- you did it!?
 
 


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Message 1581544 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 16:56:19 UTC - in response to Message 1581539.  

BilBg,

thanks

no cat.
no ups - wish list.
no overclocking by me.
nice info on antivirus, and real-time protection.
will go to my prayer room - next time.

I did it. Lucky!
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Message 1581790 - Posted: 4 Oct 2014, 12:47:54 UTC

I now have both 6570's running from my dell.
I'll have to see if they hold up.
Many thanks
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Message 1583246 - Posted: 8 Oct 2014, 1:10:10 UTC

One common rule with flashing any bios is reset bios before and after you flash. Load default or just remove the battery for 10 minutes and unplug computer.

Just for your information.

I have run into problems where sensors did not work properly without resetting bios.

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Message 1583253 - Posted: 8 Oct 2014, 1:21:30 UTC - in response to Message 1583246.  

One common rule with flashing any bios is reset bios before and after you flash. Load default or just remove the battery for 10 minutes and unplug computer.

Just for your information.

I have run into problems where sensors did not work properly without resetting bios.

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And many new BIOS/UEFI have an option to save presets. Mine give me up to 10 presets to save. So you can default the BIOS/UEFI and then load up your configured values again.
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