I doubt that. We owe China our economy. And I dont like that.

Off topic. But China owes its economy to The USA.

The USA controls most of China's Petro-chemical Imports.

Their economy is entirely dependent upon The USA's Military protecting their Oil imports. They do not have the military resources to protect their energy lifeline.

Akin to Putin truly controlling much of Western Europe's Energy Supplies.

OH so I guess that China buying and makeing there own Aircraft carries is a dream? They also have a submarine force. I for one will not downplay the Chinese navy force. Hell China is allready flexing some muscles in the south China sea. yes China is dependant some what on trade with the US. But are you really that naive to think if China wanted us to pay back what we owe them im debt, We could? The US would be bankrupt. They would defeat us with out even firing a shot.
And your wrong China can defends it own pipelines.

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http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747436

At least someone understands that if Ukraine falls.
Who will be next?

I hope Putin understans why his neighbours increasing military strength via NATO.

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747436
At least someone understands that if Ukraine falls.
Who will be next?
I hope Putin understans why his neighbours increasing military strength via NATO.

Putin welcomes the appointment of former Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, the new head of the military alliance NATO.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.svt.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2Fputin-stoltenberg-ar-serios&edit-text=
Putin calls Stoltenberg "a serious, responsible person." His reviews of Stoltenberg's predecessor Anders Fogh Rasmussen, however bitter.

Garry Kasparov: Perhaps Poroshenko should have matched Obama’s casual wardrobe by wearing a t-shirt that read “It’s a War, Stupid!

This vocabulary of cowardice emanating from Berlin and Washington is as disgraceful as the black-is-white propaganda produced by Putin’s regime, and even more dangerous

http://time.com/3227869/garry-kasparov-its-a-war-stupid/

Putin’s bloody invasion of a sovereign European nation is an incursion, much like Crimea — remember Crimea? — was an “uncontested arrival” instead of Anschluss.
A civilian airliner was blown out of the sky just six weeks ago –—remember MH17? — and with more than 100 victims still unidentified the outrage has already dissipated into polite discussions about whether it should be investigated as a crime, a war crime, or neither.

German Woman Joined Donbass Militia :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O24JuFaN1NU

An Afghan in Donbass Militia - ENG SUBS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2KeSkl5H0
Muslims don't kill for money. It's against the Koran

China is building an Aircraft Carrier? Italy has TWO!!! So? Really means nothing to protect their economy.

And here it is:)
Christened Liaoning -- after the port where the carrier was significantly overhauled after being bought from Ukraine
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90786/7957606.html
And more to come. Pentagon sees Beijing flexing muscle for world
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/1/china-begins-to-build-its-own-aircraft-carrier/?page=all

This is news from Donetsk Peoples Republic 1 hour ago.

We want to warn you about an attempt of intrusion in Novorossiya's affair by a bunch of western fascists.

On 29-31 August 2014, an international conference called "Russia, Ukraine, New Russia: global problems and challenges" will take place in Yalta, situated in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea currently occupied by Russia.

Frank Creyelman (far right Vlaams Belang, Belgium)
Luc Michel (neo-Nazi Parti Communautaire National-Européen, Belgium)
Pavel Chernev (far right Ataka, Bulgaria)
Angel Djambazki (far right Bulgarsko Natsionalno Dvizhenie, Bulgaria)
Márton Gyöngyösi (fascist Jobbik, Hungary)
Giovanni Maria Camillacci (far right Lega Nord, Italy)
Roberto Fiore (fascist Forza Nuova, Italy)
Mateusz Piskorski (far right Samooborona, Poland)
Konrad Rękas (far right Samooborona, Poland)
Bartosz Bekier (neo-Nazi Falanga, Poland)
Nick Griffin (fascist British National Party, UK)

This make no sense to me.
Autonomous Republic of Crimea?. According to Putin it's now part of the Russian Federation.
Neo-nazi participants from the west having a Conference in Russia?
No Greecs or someone from France or perhaps Sweden?

EDIT This is really funny.
I found that story from Donbass propaganda in Donetsk Peoples Republic site South Front today.
But I checked Anton Shekhovtsov's blog http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.se/2014/08/1984-russian-and-european-fascists.html where the story comes from.
He is a critic of Putin and his politics

The deliberate confusion that Putin's Russia produces and the inverted concepts it employs have an ideological underpinning: Russia is trying to hide its right-wing extremist attempts to undermine the post-war liberal-democratic order in Europe under the guise of "anti-fascist struggle".

The top domain of Anton Shekhovtsov's blog is also '.se', Sweden:):)
New nickname for Poroshenko is 'Petro the Bloody' in Donbass:)

I doubt that. We owe China our economy. And I dont like that.

Off topic. But China owes its economy to The USA.

The USA controls most of China's Petro-chemical Imports.

Their economy is entirely dependent upon The USA's Military protecting their Oil imports. They do not have the military resources to protect their energy lifeline.

Akin to Putin truly controlling much of Western Europe's Energy Supplies.

OH so I guess that China buying and makeing there own Aircraft carries is a dream? They also have a submarine force. I for one will not downplay the Chinese navy force. Hell China is allready flexing some muscles in the south China sea. yes China is dependant some what on trade with the US. But are you really that naive to think if China wanted us to pay back what we owe them im debt, We could? The US would be bankrupt. They would defeat us with out even firing a shot.
And your wrong China can defends it own pipelines.

The USA's Debt is Sovereign Debt. Understand the History.

China is building an Aircraft Carrier? Italy has TWO!!! So? Really means nothing to protect their economy.

Where are their multiple Carrier Battle Groups? The Fleets of Heavy Lift Transports? The Fleets of Heavy Bombers, The World Wide Military Bases to Support their Economic Needs?

If someone decided to close the Straits of Hormuz tomorrow, next week/month/year/5 years. What could China do? NOTHING.

Understand China's History. They are a Boom/Bust Culture. Presently, the only reason China has ANY prosperity, is their ability to sell 'things' at a lower price, by controlling their populations. Their real future problem is that EVERYTHING they produce, can be produced elsewhere. They produce nothing, not available elsewhere.

How long can this continue? Who knows? Like every other 'Discount Store': They are always close to collapse. People just SHOP at another store.

They have one now, But are building a second one. They also have a missle that can reach out to 930 miles and hit a carrier. Heres the link. second carrier

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Russian fascist ideologue Dugin asks why stop with Donetsk and Luhansk?
http://khpg.org.ua/en/index.php?id=1409512010
With NATO, the USA and other countries having clearly stated that Russian forces and equipment are deployed in Ukraine and watching as they advance together with the militants, it is worth noting the comments made recently by Russian fascist ideologue Alexander Dugin.

As we develop our offensive, an interesting point will emerge, namely: what are the borders of the DPR and LPR [Luhansk people’s republic], that is, the Federal State of Novorossiya? Kyiv will not recognize us, but then we won’t recognize Kyiv. What makes you think that we would stop on the borders of the former Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts?

Exactly 75 years since Nazi Germany invaded Poland, it is surely time that western countries ask themselves this same question. ?

New York Times: Ukrainian woman, held up to public abuse, is released
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/new-york-times-ukrainian-woman-held-up-to-public-abuse-is-released-362795.html
The woman, Irina Dovgan, 53, was accused by separatists of assisting the Ukrainian Army by acting as an artillery spotter. Separatist soldiers had wrapped her in a Ukrainian flag and forced her to stand on a sidewalk holding a sign saying “She kills our children,” while passers-by slapped and kicked her and spit on her. Rebel soldiers fired pistols beside her head in mock executions and beat her severely, leaving bruises on her arms and legs.
Her house has been looted during her detention.

As of mid-August at least 498 people were believed to have been detained, often under harrowing conditions according to a report by the United Nations

Because of the escalating fighting in the Ukraine the risk of nuclear facilities in the country is growing.
Only about 200 kilometers away from the combat zone are the six reactor units of Zaporizhia nuclear facility the largest nuclear plant in Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhia_Oblast

Now I get very nervous...

Which way is the wind blowing now, or in the Winter?

Most of the time west to east all year. So we are lucky here in Western Europe.
But not always. When Tjernobyl blew up most of the fallout landed in Gävle Sweden 200 km from Stockholm but also further north. Not in Russia however.

It's bad that you have to rely on luck.
Japan Fukushima had after all huge luck with the wind: most of the radioactivity was blowing out to sea. In other cases the whole Tokyo been evacuated and sealed - with almost incalculable economic consequences.
Fukushima’s governor has officially agreed some days ago to allow the country’s authorities to store radioactive waste for 30 years in two municipalities in exchange for 300 billion yen ($2.89 billion) in subsidies.

Michael Winiarski from Dagens Nyheter Sweden has recently been in Crimea (we spell it Krim)
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fsverige%2Fisoleringen-praglar-det-nya-krim%2F&edit-text=
Kliment, Archbishop of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Diocese of Simferopol and the Crimea.

The world needs to know that Crimea has turned into a militarized fortification. But it will be Russia's downfall. Despite all the talk about the hero status of Crimea, Russia has lost all its wars here.

The Russian right nationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky's LDPR party, looks to have a strong support among the 60 percent of the inhabitants of the Crimea are ethnic Russians.
Zhirinovskii The Boxer from the Russian Duma.

Pskov region Russia. Fresh graves paratroopers from Pskov Division - Kychatkyna and Osipova.
Russia are trying to hide death troopers. The day after the burial - the cross name tags disappeared.

Leo Shlosberh, MP from Pskov - the only one who started to investigate why and killing guys.
"People killed buried in secret, no one speaks."
Now he is in hospital - he was severely beaten - broken skull, he has partially lost his memory. Things are beginning to go out of control for Kremlin. Parents are rioting

I found this about Pskov region Russia.

Our knowledge of the Viking expeditions to the area, we have primarily from the Russian Primary Chronicle, Swedish rune stones and from archaeological excavations. Chronicle tells how during the year 862 the East Slavic tribes sent word to the Vikings: "Our land is great and rich, but there is no order in it. Come and be kings over us." They chose three brothers with their families, and "the oldest, Rurik, settled in Novgorod, the other, Sineus, settled at Beloozero, and the third, Truvor in Izborsk".

Izborsk is a small town located 30 miles west of Pskov. One of the city's attractions are Truvorkorset during which Truvor according to tradition, is buried.

11-year-old Swedish prince to Russia to become tsar in 1612

Karl Philip was brother to King Gustav II Adolf. The king himself had gladly taken the Russian Imperial crown, but because it was impossible to control Russia and Sweden in a union was the best to the king's younger brother became ruler in Russia or in all cases of the Grand Duchy of Novgorod.
The part of Russia had been conquered by the Swedish commander Jacob De la Gardie. It was he who had received the Novgorodians to officially request that a Swedish prince would come to rule over them - just like the Viking Rurik descendant once had come to bring order to the slave chaotic kingdom.

According to the Russian Chronicle, it was the three brothers from Roslagen Sweden (North of Stockholm) who founded the Russian Empire. Now their last descendant of Fyodor died, then it was time for a new Swedish to come to Novgorod. A large Russian delegation composed of novgoroder arrived to Sweden in the fall of 1612 to celebrate their new rulers. The Russians had to wait long for the Russian initiative created some confusion in Sweden. his mother didn't want him to go Russia.
The twelve-year-old prince went away escorted by diplomats and by no less than five of the country's biggest warships. Karl Philip was not only Swedish prince and duke of Södermanland and more, he was also selected Grand Duke of Novgorod.
During the long wait, the Russians had chosen another heir, a prince of the House Romanov, the first of that name in the history of Russia. He had actually already been crowned to great fanfare in Moscow in March 1613

So close was it that Russia had a tsar named Vasa as surname.

I now think we could claim Russia as our land and call it Ryssland русстрана:)
Lets deport Russians to Siberia where they belong.
At very least Putin and his henchmen.

Ukrainian setbacks

Definitely not going to be resolved any time soon.

Here we go...

Ukrainian setbacks
Definitely not going to be resolved any time soon.

With treats like this...
Defense Minister of Ukraine Valeriy Geletey stressed today that Ukraine "has become a great war, that Europe has not seen since World War II," and expressed the view that the losses "will not run into the hundreds and thousands, maybe tens of thousands."
In addition, the minister said, according to unofficial sources, the Russian side has repeatedly threatened that "in the case of continued resistance they were prepared to use tactical nuclear weapons against us."

Here we go...

Yes 5 new NATO bases in Balticum, Poland and Slovakia I Think.

From Dagens Nyheter editorial yesterday.

Two former American foreign ministers, Madeleine Albright and Condoleezza Rice, put it like this when a couple of weeks ago I attended a talk about Russia at the Aspen Institute's annual meeting,
"We must assess the risk to 10 percent of Putin's crazy. And we can not rule out that the 10 percent actually activated."

Alexander Dugin, formerly a source of ideas for right nationalist Zhirinovskii (The Boxer in the Russian Duma), now affiliated Putin and his circle. Last spring, he dismissed Majdan revolution in Ukraine as a "coup carried out by anti-Semites and fascists."
The other day took Dugin parables to mass murder level when he declared that
"Ukraine should be cleared of idiots. The need for a genocide in cretins is obvious - the evil cretins ... deadly and at the same time incomprehensible stupid. I do not think this is Ukrainian. Ukrainians are a fine Slavic peoples. This is a breed that emerged straight out of the sewer."

Okay EU. There it is. Time for you to grow a spine.

http://www.newsweek.com/russia-has-threatened-nuclear-attack-says-ukraine-defence-minister-267842?piano_t=1

Russia Has Threatened Nuclear Attack, Says Ukraine Defence Minister
Kiev has received threats of nuclear retaliation from Russia through unofficial channels if it continues to fight pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, the Ukrainian Minister of Defence, Valeriy Heletey, announced on his Facebook page on Monday.

“The Russian side has threatened on several occasions across unofficial channels that, in the case of continued resistance they are ready to use a tactical nuclear weapon against us,” Heletey’s statement reads.

The minister goes on to say that Russia’s “hybrid war” in Ukraine is at an end, accusing the Kremlin of attempting a “full-scale invasion”. Heletey called for all Ukrainian forces to “consolidate” and “begin building defences against Russia,” insisting today “the operation to liberate the Eastern Ukraine against terrorism is complete”.

and the predictable official responce
http://rt.com/news/184324-russia-ukraine-nuclear-shock/

Russia outraged after Kiev accuses Moscow of nuclear attack threats
Following comments from Ukraine’s Defense Minister Valery Geletey of Moscow threatening with a nuclear attack on its neighbor, Moscow said it was shocked by the statement. Russia warned that such rhetoric only deepens the civil stand-off in Ukraine.

“Geletey’s calls to get ready for ‘tens of thousands’ of new victims in what he called ‘Great Patriotic War’ and what in fact is a new punitive operation in his own country are appalling. He only drags the Ukrainian people into a new round of the bloody civil stand-off,” Russia’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement Monday.

Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the EU!

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Okay EU. There it is. Time for you to grow a spine.

You're joking, right?

Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the EU!

Putin reminds world that Russia ‘is one of the leading nuclear powers’ and ‘it’s best not to mess with us’
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/08/29/putin-reminds-world-that-russia-is-one-of-the-leading-nuclear-powers-and-its-best-not-to-mess-with-us/
Who is messing with Russia?
Who is messing with Ukraina?
In Ukraine, there are up to 10 to 15 thousand Russian soldiers, the General Staff creates a guerrilla movement
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpodrobnosti.ua%2Fpower%2F2014%2F09%2F02%2F991490.html&edit-text=
Get rid of Putin and his henchmens.

Mid-2007 Russia was estimated to have around 3,281 active strategic nuclear warheads in its arsenal.Russia also has a large number of tactical nuclear weapons, although there are no treaty requirements for it to publish data on these weapons so the exact numbers are unknown. An estimate by Hans M. Kristensen and Robert Norris estimate Russia has approximately 2,000 deployed tactical warheads.

Okay EU. There it is. Time for you to grow a spine.

You're joking, right?

Well they could surrender ....

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Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for the EU!

Putin reminds world that Russia ‘is one of the leading nuclear powers’ and ‘it’s best not to mess with us’
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/08/29/putin-reminds-world-that-russia-is-one-of-the-leading-nuclear-powers-and-its-best-not-to-mess-with-us/
Who is messing with Russia?

Putin

Russian people knows how to pick leaders through history.
Ivan the Terrible, Some more Tsars, Lenin, Stalin, Krusstjev, Bresjnev.
Now Putin. And his popular!

The most skilled enemy of Russia - is Russia itself. At least in the information war, Russia has already lost.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpodrobnosti.ua%2Fopinion%2F2014%2F09%2F02%2F991526.html&edit-text=

Now everything is clear even to the blind.
When the prisoners are forced to dig their own grave when they are carried out as cattle systems in the city through the angry and foul-smelling crowd
when a woman is tied to a pole in Donetsk in front of everyone, kicked her and spits at her, and no one with a gun even does not try to stop it, discrepancies on "who is a fascist" can no longer be.

Russia is now friend only with China, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Syria, Nicaragua, Zimbabwe ...

Crazy militant figther Arsen Pavlov 'Motorola' again!

A notorious Russian insurgent in eastern Ukraine has threatened to take his fight against Poland.
After Warsaw diverted a plane carrying Russia's defence minister away from Polish airspace over the weekend, he posted a video online saying he would go to Poland to respond to the insult.

http://www.kyivpost.com/multimedia/video-2/ukraine-today-russian-insurgent-threatens-poland-video-363024.html

Putin's Paradox: Popularity Up, Russian Consumer Spending Down
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-08-28/putins-popularity-up-russian-economic-prospects-down?google_editors_picks=true
As I have been saying, despite the silly wishful thinker's: Culture's and People's don't change.

At the same Russia's Megarich Are Losing Billions in Putin's War
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-22/russias-megarich-are-losing-billions-in-putins-war
But Putin is Megarich as well!
Aha. Putin is a philantrop.

Putin is becoming weirder and weirder.