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Message 1562289 - Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 18:55:06 UTC - in response to Message 1562088.  

Doing OK this morning, I guess.
Mourning the loss of my favorite computer, the Frozen One.

I'm afraid it's crunched it's last bit of Seti kibbles.

'ttennnnn-sion!!!!


Frozen, you have served you master well indeed. May you rest in peace.

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Message 1562305 - Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 19:13:27 UTC - in response to Message 1562289.  

will you fix it up again or replace it you certianly have done a lot of work on here with them pcs
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Message 1562333 - Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 20:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 1562305.  

will you fix it up again or replace it you certianly have done a lot of work on here with them pcs

I am not sure just yet.
I hate to think of throwing the compressor setup into the recycle bin. But I am not sure at all that I wish to go down that road again either.

I just don't have the jing to start over right now.
I'd need a new mobo and processor. And probably RAM, as I don't know if many current mobos still use DDR3.

I have stated a number of times in the past that when the compressor went away I would not get another. Of course, who knew that the compressor would outlive the cruncher?

I'll start stripping it down and sub in a used PSU just to make absolutely sure that there was no failure there, but.....
I've been around these rigs for long enough that I am pretty certain of what I observed.
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Message 1562341 - Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 20:20:54 UTC - in response to Message 1562333.  

will you fix it up again or replace it you certianly have done a lot of work on here with them pcs

I am not sure just yet.
I hate to think of throwing the compressor setup into the recycle bin. But I am not sure at all that I wish to go down that road again either.

I just don't have the jing to start over right now.
I'd need a new mobo and processor. And probably RAM, as I don't know if many current mobos still use DDR3.

I have stated a number of times in the past that when the compressor went away I would not get another. Of course, who knew that the compressor would outlive the cruncher?

I'll start stripping it down and sub in a used PSU just to make absolutely sure that there was no failure there, but.....
I've been around these rigs for long enough that I am pretty certain of what I observed.

The cost of ram and hard drives has dropped so much that you may be better off not trying to salvage anything if it prevents you from constructing a better system. I lost a hard drive and when I purchased a replacement, it was $50. I said what the heck and grabbed a second one so I could have a drive to construct a test system and when the system is retired, it will become a disk server for the newer system.
As you were running the system very cold, you might check for corrosion on any contacts. I have had enough customer problems were a card needed to be removed and reinserted to clear up the problem and our units were running at room temperature!
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Message 1562371 - Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 21:08:44 UTC - in response to Message 1562341.  

will you fix it up again or replace it you certianly have done a lot of work on here with them pcs

I am not sure just yet.
I hate to think of throwing the compressor setup into the recycle bin. But I am not sure at all that I wish to go down that road again either.

I just don't have the jing to start over right now.
I'd need a new mobo and processor. And probably RAM, as I don't know if many current mobos still use DDR3.

I have stated a number of times in the past that when the compressor went away I would not get another. Of course, who knew that the compressor would outlive the cruncher?

I'll start stripping it down and sub in a used PSU just to make absolutely sure that there was no failure there, but.....
I've been around these rigs for long enough that I am pretty certain of what I observed.

The cost of ram and hard drives has dropped so much that you may be better off not trying to salvage anything if it prevents you from constructing a better system. I lost a hard drive and when I purchased a replacement, it was $50. I said what the heck and grabbed a second one so I could have a drive to construct a test system and when the system is retired, it will become a disk server for the newer system.
As you were running the system very cold, you might check for corrosion on any contacts. I have had enough customer problems were a card needed to be removed and reinserted to clear up the problem and our units were running at room temperature!

Thanks Dena....
I will do an autopsy when my spirits rise a bit.
I did lose the first mobo/processor in this configuration to moisture and corrosion in the CPU socket. When I removed the processor, some of the contact lands stuck to the socket contacts and pulled right off of the processor.
I was more thorough and liberal with silicone grease around the socket on this build, which no doubt contributed to it's longer life.
Although CPU contacts are gold plated, it's microns thin.
About the only wild card could be the PSU, but it's a PC Power and Cooling 910w unit, and I've never had one fail, save for one instance of a main power connector that had one pin melt down.

It is just so depressing after all these years to hit the power switch and hear nothing but the fans ramping up. No friendly beep.......
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Message 1562386 - Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 21:34:01 UTC - in response to Message 1562371.  

will you fix it up again or replace it you certianly have done a lot of work on here with them pcs

I am not sure just yet.
I hate to think of throwing the compressor setup into the recycle bin. But I am not sure at all that I wish to go down that road again either.

I just don't have the jing to start over right now.
I'd need a new mobo and processor. And probably RAM, as I don't know if many current mobos still use DDR3.

I have stated a number of times in the past that when the compressor went away I would not get another. Of course, who knew that the compressor would outlive the cruncher?

I'll start stripping it down and sub in a used PSU just to make absolutely sure that there was no failure there, but.....
I've been around these rigs for long enough that I am pretty certain of what I observed.

The cost of ram and hard drives has dropped so much that you may be better off not trying to salvage anything if it prevents you from constructing a better system. I lost a hard drive and when I purchased a replacement, it was $50. I said what the heck and grabbed a second one so I could have a drive to construct a test system and when the system is retired, it will become a disk server for the newer system.
As you were running the system very cold, you might check for corrosion on any contacts. I have had enough customer problems were a card needed to be removed and reinserted to clear up the problem and our units were running at room temperature!

Thanks Dena....
I will do an autopsy when my spirits rise a bit.
I did lose the first mobo/processor in this configuration to moisture and corrosion in the CPU socket. When I removed the processor, some of the contact lands stuck to the socket contacts and pulled right off of the processor.
I was more thorough and liberal with silicone grease around the socket on this build, which no doubt contributed to it's longer life.
Although CPU contacts are gold plated, it's microns thin.
About the only wild card could be the PSU, but it's a PC Power and Cooling 910w unit, and I've never had one fail, save for one instance of a main power connector that had one pin melt down.

It is just so depressing after all these years to hit the power switch and hear nothing but the fans ramping up. No friendly beep.......

The problem we had with our units is we used S100 card cages (not S100 bus) and the alloy metal in the gold would react with the pollution in the air causing an insulating layer. When we had them in our hands, we would use a rubber eraser to clean the contacts before shipping them out. When they were in the customers hands, just reinserting the cards was enough to get them running for a few more years. Unlike PC hardware our units could spend 10 or more years in the field doing their duty 24/7.
It has been so long since you assembled that unit and I forgot that you used grease to seal the moisture out but you still could have a connection issue elsewhere. I have a 486 PC that I use for customer support and I though the thing finally died on me. It turned out that there was a cable running from the serial card to the back of the cabinet that failed. The cable isn't available but I was able to connect directly to the card connector and the antique is back on duty. And before you ask, we need to run a terminal emulator that only runs under PC DOS in order to remotely load software into the customers units. Anything 286 or newer that runs PC DOS works fine. Professionally I am a programmer but I haven't ever had a company issued PC that hasn't had at least one other owner. When I need another PC, the first place I look is the scrap pile. New fans as needed, a new clock battery and I am back in business.
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Message 1562388 - Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 21:37:13 UTC

Sorry you have lost your rig Mark:(
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Message 1562421 - Posted: 25 Aug 2014, 22:30:15 UTC - in response to Message 1562386.  

When I need another PC, the first place I look is the scrap pile. New fans as needed, a new clock battery and I am back in business.

LOL...
Unfortunately, the kitties' pile of spare parts has largely been used up over the years.
I have one old rig left in the back room that was retired long ago.
Only problem is, I don't recall if I retired it because it failed, or just took it offline to get something bigger and better working in it's place.

I did ask in our team forum if anybody had a gently wrecked mobo and processor set aside from upgrades, but I didn't luck out on that one....LOL.
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Message 1562465 - Posted: 26 Aug 2014, 1:20:00 UTC

I hear now.........
The rustle of leaves going to another place.
Such as my own leaves are soon to follow.
It is not such a bad thing as some might think, moving onward.

It is now, as I have just become aware, our own choice to make.
And nobody else from heaven to hell, has the ability to take that from any of us.

I am not..
Going to leave you behind any time soon, God willing.
I do now understand that I could.
And understanding that is a very frightening thing indeed.

I shall sleep tonight with my kitties, knowing full well that I shall also wake up with them.

I am going to be here tomorrow.

That is my faith.
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Message 1562473 - Posted: 26 Aug 2014, 1:45:57 UTC

What I need to say now...........
What I really need to say.
Is that I shall miss you all so very much when I have to go.
I am NOT going to force the issue by taking things into my own hands.
I can assure you of that much.

I have been and shared and bared about everything in my life with you all here.
I have held little back.

It's been a train wreck of a life I have led.
I have been to hell and back on a rail.
I am not really sure how I made it to this point.

I am rather sorry for dragging you all through it with me.

Jett and Lori have been such a large part of my existence.
Lori is here and now, Jett was a most wonderful part of my youth.

I grew up believing that life could be cool and wonderful.
And one day reality grabbed me by the throat and said, buddy. Life sucks. And you best get used to it.

That day..........the bottom just dropped out.
As the saying goes, every day the bucket goes to the well...and one day the bottom shall drop out./

It did, and it has for me now.

I shall maybe attempt to regain my innocent youth one day.
I don't think it is going to happen very soon, though.

'Till then, just know the kittyman loves all of you so very much.
And that shall not change............ever.

Meow for now, Mark.
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Message 1562724 - Posted: 26 Aug 2014, 22:34:58 UTC

Well, no luck today trying to coax a peep outta the defunct cruncher.
I may invest in a spare PSU just to give it one more shot.

Meowsigh.
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Message 1563011 - Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 11:37:51 UTC

I have just seen that compressor cooler on your pc that's impressive, you know how to get the best out of machines kittyman. I find your posts very helpful
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Message 1564843 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 5:29:12 UTC
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Lori and myself watched a wonderful movie tonight.
Winter's Tale
It came out early this year, but we had not seen it at that time.

A wonderfully told fantasy tale about eternal love, good and evil, the stars and destiny. And what each of our part might be in it all.

It has a wonderful ending, but have a few tissues handy.
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Message 1564846 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 5:42:38 UTC - in response to Message 1564843.  

not many good film made now or maybe not the type I like lassie the dog was one that I always liked
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Message 1564864 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 7:16:08 UTC - in response to Message 1564843.  

Lori and myself watched a wonderful movie tonight.
Winter's Tale
It came out early this year, but we had not seen it at that time.

A wonderfully told fantasy tale about eternal love, good and evil, the stars and destiny. And what each of our part might be in it all.

It has a wonderful ending, but have a few tissues handy.


It was on pay TV last week.

Good movie.


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Message 1564938 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 14:08:43 UTC - in response to Message 1564888.  

The original Winters Tale was by Shakespeare in 1623, obviously not the same one!

No, not the same story.
I was also surprised, after enjoying it so much, to read that it got really poor reviews and was a box office bomb.
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Message 1565016 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 17:03:46 UTC - in response to Message 1564938.  

The original Winters Tale was by Shakespeare in 1623, obviously not the same one!

No, not the same story.
I was also surprised, after enjoying it so much, to read that it got really poor reviews and was a box office bomb.

My rule for watching movies is if the critics like it, you might want to avoid it. If the critics hate it, it might be a good movie to see. When I want to watch a movie, I want a few hours of relaxation, not some high brow work of art with a bunch of inside lines that only people in the movie industry understand.
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Yeah, I never listen to the critics...........

Anyway...something cool that just makes me smile.
The old florescent tube light in my yard lamp went out last night.
So, I went to Home Depot and got one of them new Cree LED lights.
100w warm white version.
I had tested a 60w version in my hall light....perfect.
Color rendition is great.....luv it.

Went out to the post light in the middle of the night and twisted it in.
Oh, most wonderful light they have created. The old FL was rated at 40w, this uses only 18. And is rated to last some 20 years. Ain't technology amazing?
These things are truly incredible.

The 100w equivelent Cree LED.

The soft white versions replace a standard incandescent perfectly...and they have a few that even have enhanced blue color rendition. If you have FL replacements now and are used to the color tone, they also have 'daylight' versions.....which are too 'white' for my taste.

These bulbs are 1000% kitty approved.
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Message 1565335 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 7:47:18 UTC - in response to Message 1565326.  

Yeah, I never listen to the critics...........

Anyway...something cool that just makes me smile.
The old florescent tube light in my yard lamp went out last night.
So, I went to Home Depot and got one of them new Cree LED lights.
100w warm white version.
I had tested a 60w version in my hall light....perfect.
Color rendition is great.....luv it.

Went out to the post light in the middle of the night and twisted it in.
Oh, most wonderful light they have created. The old FL was rated at 40w, this uses only 18. And is rated to last some 20 years. Ain't technology amazing?
These things are truly incredible.

The 100w equivelent Cree LED.

Mark I have converted allmost my whole house to cree led bulbs. Only two fixtures have none LED bulbs. On is a light fixture that an led bulb wont fit into the way its made. And the other is a halogen torch lamp. That was wedding present. It hardly is ever used though.
I have no more CFL bulbs in my house. Im toataly led with the said exceptions.
I do so love the instant on light compared to a CFL.
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Message 1565338 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 7:53:59 UTC - in response to Message 1565335.  

Yeah, I never listen to the critics...........

Anyway...something cool that just makes me smile.
The old florescent tube light in my yard lamp went out last night.
So, I went to Home Depot and got one of them new Cree LED lights.
100w warm white version.
I had tested a 60w version in my hall light....perfect.
Color rendition is great.....luv it.

Went out to the post light in the middle of the night and twisted it in.
Oh, most wonderful light they have created. The old FL was rated at 40w, this uses only 18. And is rated to last some 20 years. Ain't technology amazing?
These things are truly incredible.

The 100w equivelent Cree LED.

Mark I have converted allmost my whole house to cree led bulbs. Only two fixtures have none LED bulbs. On is a light fixture that an led bulb wont fit into the way its made. And the other is a halogen torch lamp. That was wedding present. It hardly is ever used though.
I have no more CFL bulbs in my house. Im toataly led with the said exceptions.
I do so love the instant on light compared to a CFL.

The 'instant on' problem was corrected with most recent FL bulbs.
The thing that impresses me most is the perfect color they have finally achieved with the Cree bulbs.
Unless some miracle technological development ensues, I will never buy anything else once the few others in place die out.
The 100w versions go for about $20.00 a pop. This amuses me, as I suppose if I live so long, the one I just put in my yard post will be lit long after I am gone...LOL.
They are not real cheap to buy, but they just keep on giving.
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