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 Daykay  Send message Joined: 18 Dec 00 Posts: 647 Credit: 739,559 RAC: 0 
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I guess there's some way to pin this on Putin too. Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004. Search for your own intelligence... ID: 1547112 ·  |
Sirius B   Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 
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Amazing how the Yanks keep popping up in this affair yet refuses to show the proof... US says evidence shows... ID: 1547244 · |
Gary Charpentier     Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30692 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 
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Amazing how the Yanks keep popping up in this affair yet refuses to show the proof... Yep. Did you also notice that it isn't being denied? 
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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Amazing how the Yanks keep popping up in this affair yet refuses to show the proof... Yes, which makes me wonder about Russia & US roles in this. ID: 1547250 · |
Nick  Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 
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Well, it was always going to be fraught with danger when the West decided to meddle in Ukraine. Posters on these threads were warned a long time ago about Brussels and it's expansionist programme yet I don't suppose many listened. This is the result of this meddling and to cover their tracks the West is throwing as much dirt at Russia as it can get away with. If it had not been for this meddling by the West that aircraft would not have suffered the fate that it did... The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. ID: 1547332 · |
janneseti  Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 
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Amazing how the Yanks keep popping up in this affair yet refuses to show the proof... Proof enough? https://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Finforesist.org%2Fvo-vremya-obstrela-ukrainskoj-territorii-vojskami-vs-rossii-postradali-doma-mirnyx-zhitelej-snbo%2F ID: 1547333 · |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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Amazing how the Yanks keep popping up in this affair yet refuses to show the proof... No, read my post again. ID: 1547337 · |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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Amazing how the Yanks keep popping up in this affair yet refuses to show the proof... I thought I did:) Or do you mean that US are covering up something? ID: 1547346 · |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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Amazing how the Yanks keep popping up in this affair yet refuses to show the proof... No. It's Cold War 2. One side makes accusations to draw out the other side. Other side neither confirms or denies so Rest of World ends up believing that there may be a grain of truth in original accusation. As for your link, anyone can photograph a hole in the wall. Where's the photos of Russian Artillery facing the Ukraine & firing? ID: 1547347 · |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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No. It's Cold War 2. One side makes accusations to draw out the other side. Other side neither confirms or denies so Rest of World ends up believing that there may be a grain of truth in original accusation. Yes, you're right. Both sides have their propaganda and its very difficult to check facts, verify information, and refute distorted information. Even Stopfake.org and Kharkiv Human Rights Group have difficults. Translation problems too. But I found this from 16/7. http://pressimus.com/Interpreter_Mag/press/3372 GRAD positioned Gukovo Russia. https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0751531,39.9532518,13z ID: 1547351 · |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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Sirius B. About two sides. Ukrainian murderers. Azov Battalion Take Oath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unqJ-MUqliE Volunteer unit of the National Guard, operated by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine It's not like Dad's Army if you think that. Russian murderers. Anthem of battalion "Vostok"... http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b3_1405980557 Ethnic Chechens, while the command personnel is mixed Russian and Chechens operated by ?. btw. The terrorist commander Alexander Khodakovsky for Vostok who acknowledges that fighters had BUK missile can you see in the video within 2 minuts. ID: 1547389 · |
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Daykay Send message Joined: 18 Dec 00 Posts: 647 Credit: 739,559 RAC: 0
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Re: Azov Battalion Made up largely of neo-Nazis and operating with the support of the Ukrainian government because they fear that their own armies sympathise with the separatists. Re: Vostok Battalion Said to be largely made up of Eastern Ukrainian untrained volunteers. Khodakovsky is a former commander of a unit in Security Services of Ukraine but sided with separatists. He also has said that the Reuters interview is a hatchet job and he has been quoted out of context. Claims to have full video recording to prove he has been misquoted. Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004. Search for your own intelligence... ID: 1547676 · |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0
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Re: Azov Battalion I hate to admit it. The Kiev regime converts the battle area into an entertainment place – firing range for blood thirsty foreign tourists, the government is even involved in advertising business. The clients don’t hide their passion for this kind of fun and even show it off. Even a Swedish Citizen has joined them:( ID: 1547686 · |
Batter Up  Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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Yes, which makes me wonder about Russia & US roles in this.The Monroe Doctrine manifest; you people have a problem. 
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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Yes, which makes me wonder about Russia & US roles in this.The Monroe Doctrine manifest; you people have a problem. Nope, not true, if the USA has any more like you then the US has a problem. ID: 1547796 · |
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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Excuseeeee me, my Army reenlistment code was RE-1, none higher; enough said.Yes, which makes me wonder about Russia & US roles in this.The Monroe Doctrine manifest; you people have a problem. The families will not interfere in each others business. They stay out of Cuba we stay out of Ukraine.Yes, which makes me wonder about Russia & US roles in this.The Monroe Doctrine manifest; you people have a problem.
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betreger  Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66
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Nope, not true, if the USA has any more like you then the US has a problem. Sirius the problem is bigger than that, it is a global problem. ID: 1547817 · |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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Excuseeeee me, my Army reenlistment code was RE-1, none higher; enough said. Yep, Rear Echelon-1. ID: 1547823 · |
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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'Sphere's of Influence'. Correct?It's just business, nothing personal. More courage than a draft dodger or a Berkeley intellectual.Excuseeeee me, my Army reenlistment code was RE-1, none higher; enough said.
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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Nope, not true, if the USA has any more like you then the US has a problem. Sadly, you're right on that. ID: 1547834 · |
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