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Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Well I finally figured out what the temp prob is and what was coursing it Here's 1 you all need to check if running AMD chips The dam motherboard has a setting that by default is turned ON, this setting is for Turbo boost on the core turn it of my AMD chip is 4 gig but the Turbo boost has been pushing the chip to 4.1 this extra bit of speed is what has cursed the chip to slowly increase the temp every 5 mins just enough to overwhelm the heat sink and the heat builds up until the chip stops turboing and cools then heats up again until you have to start stopping cores from being used or put a external fan Well since I turn'd the dam Turbo boost of the temp has not gone over 30c and that's with stock heat sink and 7 of 8 core going and 2 on the gpu which I will now increase back to 3 If you have a AMD and it getting hot check that it's not the M/B trying to Turbo Boost the cores remember that it was only increasing it by 100mhz and that was tooo much . |
Bill Collins Send message Joined: 5 Nov 05 Posts: 25 Credit: 57,544,918 RAC: 0 |
Glenn, how about a BIOS update? AMD produces graphics chips and they know that they can run hot. If their CPU is also doubling as a GPU or at least managing a very nearby GPU one would think that they had anticipated such a problem. But if a loss of only 100 MHz solves the problem it may be worth it. - Bill -Bill |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I totally agree on turbo boost to turn off. But dont forget the thermal sensor in the AMD chip dont work properly. You can add 20°C to what most programs read. Dont use a FX CPU 24/7 with stock cooling. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
My FX-6100, I only use half the cores anyway and every time I check the temp, it is usually right around 41 or so. I also have a huge 92mm heatsink on it (here). I originally got it for my 2p Opteron 2222SE system that preceded the FX-6100. Works pretty well. Board and CPU report with all six cores at full load, I max out around 47C. Idles at 30 with ambient at 23. First thing I did was went into the UEFI configuration (the fancy new upgrade to the decades-old BIOS thing) and disabled turbo boost and just to make sure, I set manual overclocking controls and set it for the stock speed. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
arkayn Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 |
My FX-6100, I only use half the cores anyway and every time I check the temp, it is usually right around 41 or so. I also have a huge 92mm heatsink on it (here). I originally got it for my 2p Opteron 2222SE system that preceded the FX-6100. Works pretty well. Board and CPU report with all six cores at full load, I max out around 47C. Idles at 30 with ambient at 23. When my FX-4100 started overheating, I installed this one on it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118128 Now it idles at 28 or so. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
thanks for thoughts dam thing still over heats but a little more stable now it's now trying to over clock itself . When it stsrts getting hot it's still generating a prob but only the 1 unit in stead of up to 3 so back to the external fan and reduce the cores back at certain times of the day till I can get a better cooling solution.....grrrr |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Thanks Mike I sort of noticed the temp seems to be a bit iffy so thanks for conferming it dam , dam ,dam , grrr 1st time I break my own rule never buy a freaking AMD for Seti Cheap bastard me ! When I first ran core temp I added 23c to it but after starting it up just in BIOS and monitoring it and the RPM of the fan for 15 mins I reduced it back to o as the temp reads ok but does jump around and can go off for a miro sec , the fans RPM shows zero for a micro second so the fan or the sensor on the board is a bit iffy to that's what I get cheaping out on the chip and board . Now all I need for 1 of you to tell me is the freaking Ram at 1600 is no good for INTEL cos they use 1333 or 2100 not 1600 and I will be pissed off |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Thanks Arkayn how does it compare with the Liquid cooling types do you have any idea |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
arkayn I have been looking at the prob I have with seti and when I look in the slots Folder at the unit or as in right now 3 I have found that the stdrr file when opened has noting in it ?? would you have any idea what could be cursing it , is there a way to reset a single units with out deleting the unit ? I think it explains why the reamaining time shows -.- and if I suspend seti it restarts the unit Any thoughts would be most great . So far I have been aborting these units when it happens |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Thanks Mike I sort of noticed the temp seems to be a bit iffy so thanks for conferming it dam , dam ,dam , grrr 1st time I break my own rule never buy a freaking AMD for Seti Glenn the 8350 is a very good CPU. You just need good cooling, thats all. I`m using this on mine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=Noctua+D14&N=-1&isNodeId=1 With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
thanks mike the heating is 1 prob but what seti is doing I been running it a few hours and watching temps realy closly but it's just happened again with the gpu I'm running it down of units and i'll try again but put the data folder on the H/D and not the Ram drive just in case that's cusing the prob I'm keeping the temp at 50c so why? GPU Temp 42c and hasn't got over 48c all day |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34748 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
This to is a good HSF at a very reasonable price Glenn. http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2=185&bid=2&sid=196304 Cheers. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Thanks wiggo mm $49 ..right price for funds I have |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Ok ppl probably regret this on the morrow but ... I appear to have fixed the problem (for a second time they say) I have now reinstalled Bionic & the Asylum on the H/D and run it for going on 5hrs no problem with Seti getting stuck redoing units on suspend or Remaining (estimate) time showing -.- However I am only doing 1 GPU Unit at a time Results so far Cpu units 30% faster ! GPU like wow ! 5sec - 24min Temp CPU holding well 55C using 6 cores middle of day and no errors It looks like the OEM software that came with a External USB H/D called Turbo Ram Disc is not up to the challenge of Seti so all thought it works ok and I have had no other probs with this Ram Disc Software ... Do not use this Software to run with Seti on it The H/D is a Buffalo HDPNTu3 500gig |
Un4given Send message Joined: 1 May 04 Posts: 19 Credit: 7,983,035 RAC: 13 |
Just an FYI. Both AMD and Intel supply HSF units that are incapable of supporting the CPU with all cores loaded and running full tilt. If you are going to be running multiple/all cores at full load, definitely invest in a good HSF. They can be found for a reasonable price, but are usually heatpipe designs and require a larger case to ensure they will fit. I just built an FX-8320 (8-core) system at 3.5GHz (4.0 GHz turbo) and the HSF they provided just wasn't cutting it. We ordered a Cooler Master Hyper T4 and it has worked beautifully. It is also one of the shorter heatpipe design units, and can be had from Newegg for $25. Just make sure you do some measurements to ensure it will fit your case. It also includes an extra bracket so you can mount another 120mm fan in a push/pull configuration. I see you're not in the US, but this manufacturer is a major name brand and should be available just about anywhere. Best of luck! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103182 |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Last up and thank for all the info been helpful .. Had machine running 7 cores and 3 units on GPU for 24hrs + now and temp in middle of day holding at 61c and no errors with Seti Units not restarting on suspend & resume The problem was most definatly the Turbo Ram disc software so don't use it . I now suspect that I will be able to run Maverick as a VM as it did run until I updated it and seeing as the VM Work station is on the ram Disc I suspect that's where the problem lies . I'll start another Thread when I get around to it about Apple and VM's But many thanks to every one |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34748 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Glenn, after your RAC levels out try just 2 w/u's at a time on that GTX 650 and see what happens. ;-) Cheers. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Thanks Wiggo mate , I was thinking the excat same thing , trying to work out weather over the long run 2 would be better 2 averaged while I watched it when I ramped it up was approx. 27mins but that does depend on the unit 3 average aprrox 58mins but will do them in 41 so... 1 does them in 16mins or 24mins so i'll do what you said and what I was gona do wait a few days for the Rac to settle and then see wish that low pressure system would bugger off bloody to cold about 11.5c and that wind brrrrrrrr |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34748 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
2 should be the best with that card though as usual YMMV. Currently 4C here though the wind brings that down to -4C so enjoy that warmth you have Glenn. ;-) Cheers. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
wow -4 Freeze the balls of a Brass Monkey i'll stop whingeing at 12c now 6 in the wind it's warm compeard to where you are brrrrrr |
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