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Message 1546336 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 13:12:46 UTC
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Total screwup? I installed my new hd 7770. It runs fine but now my two 6570's won't work. Did I totally screwup expecting I could get all three to run seti/lunatics? I have no sli capability with these cards.
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Message 1546359 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 14:09:14 UTC - in response to Message 1545429.  

I left in that MB stuff in config_app because I didn't want to wind up without anything for my gpu in case the astropulse gpu wu's didn't come through.

Here is my app_info file but it looks too much for me to chance fooling with.
Thanks again.

<app_info>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>

Hi Merle, you did not mention "setiathome_enhanced", but I think those are all gone now (someone please correct me if I am wrong here).

As always, follow the advice from Zalster and copy app_info.xml to a safe location before making this change, just in case something goes sideways on you.

If you want to ONLY run MB on the CPUs, and ONLY run AP on the GPUs, here is a simple change to make that happen:

1) just search your app_info.xml using Notepad for the string "<name>setiathome_v7</name>". It will be found on line 3.

2) Repeat the search to find the second occurrence. Go up 1 line, and insert a line BEFORE the " <app>" line. The inserted line will read " </app_info>".

That section of code will now read:

<open_name>ap_cmdline.txt</open_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>MB7_win_x86_SSE_OpenCL_ATi_r1843.exe</name>

The remainder of that file will be ignored by BOINC so you can leave it in or remove it as you wish.

Have BOINC manager reload your configuration files (Advanced tab -> Read config files). You should then get MB for CPU and AP for GPU ONLY, and no setihome_enhanced if your preferences are set to get both.
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Message 1546418 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 18:09:57 UTC - in response to Message 1546359.  

It didn't work for me. No astropulse gpu's available. Are they scarce?

I did however figure out how to get all 3 gpu's running again with cc_config.xml.
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Message 1546419 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 18:10:09 UTC - in response to Message 1546359.  
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Message 1546423 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 18:17:03 UTC - in response to Message 1546419.  

The datacenter is undergoing maintenance today (just now, I still can not connect to upload or download) and a larger portion of tomorrow. So there will be periods of time when access to the database will not be available.


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Message 1546495 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 21:11:38 UTC - in response to Message 1546418.  
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It didn't work for me. ....

Don't mind the Darrell Wilcox's post - he answers to VERY OLD post which is totally out of date now - you have new app_info.xml with only MultiBeam CPU + AstroPulse GPU, right?


I did however figure out how to get all 3 gpu's running again with cc_config.xml

If you mean <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> - yes, that's it :)


I have no sli capability with these cards.

1) SLI is NVIDIA technology, ATI AMD uses the name CrossFireX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_CrossFireX

2) No, you don't need SLI or CrossFireX for CUDA or OpenCL Computing

 
 


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Message 1546516 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 21:52:45 UTC - in response to Message 1546495.  

- you have new app_info.xml with only MultiBeam CPU + AstroPulse GPU, right?

App_info.xml is a complex piece of work. I shall have to work on that.
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Message 1546535 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 22:28:19 UTC - in response to Message 1546516.  

app_info.xml is created a fresh-new every time you run Lunatics' Installer
It is created by merging all .aistub files (which were just extracted from inside of Lunatics' Installer)
Merging is performed by calling aimerge.cmd

So app_info.xml contains descriptions for only the apps you selected in last run of Lunatics' Installer

To see (out of curiosity) what's inside of Lunatics' Installer (and extract files):
http://www.7-zip.org/
 


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Message 1546549 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 23:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 1546535.  
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Well I screwed up editing my own app_info.xml. Then I put the original back and only got cpu tasks. Then I read your last comment and reinstalled lunatics. Now it is still not giving me gpu tasks but I read the latest app_info.xml that lunatics created and it looks good so I suppose now I must have patience and wait until the system regains trust in me to give me some astropulse gpu tasks. :-) , but it's not really funny. Patience, patience!

And as soon as I said that and turned around, lo and behold the astropulse gpu wu's appeared from that dark and dangerous place of the system. Thanks, thanks.
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Message 1546607 - Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 1:24:23 UTC - in response to Message 1546549.  

Well I screwed up editing my own app_info.xml

What do you use to edit it?
And what was in need of edit? (what change did you wanted?)
 


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Message 1546802 - Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 7:10:17 UTC - in response to Message 1546607.  

That msg from Darrell Wilcox got me thinking along the line that I had to manually edit app_info.xml.
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Message 1546894 - Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 12:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 1546802.  

Today, MSI afterburner is showing that all 3 gpus are running at about 99%. So too does SIV64X but Boinc Mgr is now showing no progress % increases in the gpu's wu's. Will it eventually register to boinc mgr or are these units in some kind of perpetual loop?
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Message 1546906 - Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 13:20:22 UTC - in response to Message 1546894.  

try suspending and then restarting the work units
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Message 1546908 - Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 13:25:34 UTC - in response to Message 1546906.  

I tried that once and it didn't work. Will try again. From time to time at least some of them will all of a sudden show an increase.
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Message 1546915 - Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 13:41:30 UTC - in response to Message 1546908.  

Because astropulse is a much larger wu than MB which I was used to, I think it is just the slow pace of the % changes, that make it seem like they are not "turning over".
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Message 1547037 - Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 21:44:45 UTC - in response to Message 1546915.  

Is it possible to set 2 gpu's to run 2 wu's concurrently while setting the 3rd gpu to run 3 wu's concurrently. My 7770 is hungry for more work.
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Message 1547066 - Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 23:36:36 UTC - in response to Message 1547037.  

Beyond my knowledge, lol.....Maybe if you had 2 instance of Boinc managers running.. But that's just a wild guess so don't take me serious on that....Lets see what some of the others say..
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Message 1547086 - Posted: 25 Jul 2014, 0:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 1547037.  

To Merle van Osdol Message 1547037:

Here is what you need from the BOINC Wiki:

<coproc>


specify a GPU. Used in combination with the Anonymous platform mechanism. The element has the form

<coproc>
<type>some_name</type>
<count>1</count>
<device_nums>0 2</device_nums>
[ <peak_flops>1e10</peak_flops> ]
</coproc>

The name given in <type> must match that in the <coproc> element in app_info.xml. <count> is the number of GPU instances, and <device_nums> is their device numbers. <peak_flops> is the GPU peak FLOPS; it can be omitted if your app_info.xml specifies estimated application FLOPS. This mechanism has two purposes: to provide fine-grained control of the coprocessors recognized by BOINC (NVIDIA, AMD, and Intel GPUs), and to let you use coprocessors not recognized by BOINC.

Now go read that page and develop an understanding before modifying your BOINC parameter file(s). And always, always, backup before modifying.

Good luck in your endeavors.
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Message 1547309 - Posted: 25 Jul 2014, 9:04:36 UTC - in response to Message 1547086.  

Thanks, I'll be working on that. May have to get back to you with additional questions.
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Message 1548132 - Posted: 26 Jul 2014, 19:12:48 UTC - in response to Message 1547309.  
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I understand the AP's deliver more points than MB's with the gpu's. Is it the same as far as cpu's? Is there a clear winner - AP's vs. MB's with the cpu?
I use intel. Is there a readily available supply of AP tasks?

Thanks for reading.
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