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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The sun is almost completely blank. Solar cycles are natural and quite easy to predict. Climate though has so many factors to consider to make a prediction. It's like to predict when then next superwave comes. Ship in storm 90ft waves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Zqglz4_dc According to earlier science there where no such big waves as 90 ft high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG6FhK96dBg |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
This was NOT about the 'Solar Cycles' you mentioned. 11 years, etc. I think I did mention Solar Cycles that is about 15 to 20 years long. But talked about the cooling cycle that is half the time. And in the Viking Age the climate was about 5 degrees more than now so perhaps there is another cycle per 1000 years. Who knows? “Little Ice Ageâ€. Natura hoc debuit uni. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_across_the_Belts#Crossing Swedish troops crossing the ice over to Denmark in 1658. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
This was NOT about the 'Solar Cycles' you mentioned. 11 years, etc. I don't think Scientist had said that they know the answer. Only fanatics (read economists). But that the CO2 emission are very bad for our climate is a fact and we have to deal with it NOW. |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Carbon dioxide (CO2) is an important heat-trapping (greenhouse) gas, which is released through human activities such as deforestation and burning fossil fuels, as well as natural processes such as respiration and volcanic eruptions. Are burning fossil fuels more dangerous then burning fuels from other sources? Any combustion of organic material forming CO2 and water. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
They said it was the first month that the entire globe broke 400ppm, reaching levels that haven't been seen for about two million years. +100 However the article , what you have to understand is if the sun is going into or is in a Mulder Mundeane a cooling period this is very dangerous as it may have the effect of giving us a false cents that's there is no problem . When the current cooling stops and we don't reduce the amount of Co2 . Currently increasing at approx. 2.5 ppm per year how hot will it get asuming the sun is the key to the heating of the Earth.! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
However the article , what you have to understand is if the sun is going into or is in a Mulder Mundeane a cooling period this is very dangerous as it may have the effect of giving us a false cents that's there is no problem. Thats very true Glenn. And as I have said Before, high CO2 levels also affect Life on our only small planet. Not only the Global Warming is a threat... |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Clyde I don't dought the Sun's heating the Earth is the main reason there has been a slowdown in the temps , The current Cycle has had a double peek but is winding back lower you can see for yourself here at the bottom , the solar charts . http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/communities/space-weather-enthusiasts The charts go back to 2000 The Co2 at 600 is the danger level . It was last that high 6 - 8 million years ago . Man did not climb out off of the trees until ? |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
Carbon dioxide (CO2) is an important heat-trapping (greenhouse) gas, which is released through human activities such as deforestation and burning fossil fuels, as well as natural processes such as respiration and volcanic eruptions. any combustion, including our measure of Life is releasing CO2...so that goes for sugar & fats in us or animals (image all the people in the World, especially India & China which take more than 2/7 of the Worlds population), for all hard burning CH materials (paper, wood, coal, etc.), all burning CH liquids (fuel, oils, etc.), all burning CH gases (propane, butane, eter, etc.)... on top of that CH4 (metane) is a big problem...so every time you (or any cow) farts it's as 80x more polutant than breading... then you have CFC for sprays & deodorants...etc. non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
then you have CFC for sprays & deodorants...etc. CFC's have been outlawed in all country's since about the mid 80's or early 90's and are not doing any damage to the ozone , how ever it will take another 50 years to repair it completely . All aerosol cans are to use non cfc gasses and all so refrigerant that don't harm the ozone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorofluorocarbon including our measure of Life is releasing CO2...so that goes for sugar & fats in us or animals Yes you are right , so we are in a lot of troubble seeing as the developed world is now very over weight . When all them Fat people start to diet and lose the 50 kg they need to lose there will be a sudden spike in the Co2 seeing as that is what happens to the FAT , it turns into Co2 |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Stop eating, have everyone at the level of Somalia, reduce Human Population by 5 - 6 Billion? Scary thought. But one thing that could be done right now. Stop using cars so much. We have legs to walk. Here where I live it seems to be more cars then humans. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Depends where you live in the world. Exactly. And why? Everybody has a car. In LA they have adressed the problem and it's so easy to change the infrastructurs in cities. Instead of making food shopping places huge, spread them. The other day I read that a father here in my Town couldnt find his kid who was in the car on a big parking lot. Police and police helicopters had to help him with the search. Geez. People are dying of obesity for not walking. Many suffers from skeleton problem for not walking. Sigh.... |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
well that's what you get for everything being Bigger and Better in the states , everyone needs a car to get to the huge wal mart stores miles away from the high street so everyone gets FAT as there to far away to walk . |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Depends where you live in the world. No, Clyde:) But there is no economy in doing so. Well, Economists Think so anyway... I dont trust Economists and clergy for one minute! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
well that's what you get for everything being Bigger and Better in the states , everyone needs a car to get to the huge wal mart stores miles away from the high street so everyone gets FAT as there to far away to walk . It's both sad and funny Glenn:) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
In LA they have adressed the problem and it's so easy to change the infrastructurs in cities. ???? LA?! You mean the city that ripped out all its public transit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Railway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Electric http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Metropolitan_Transit_Authority http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_California_Rapid_Transit_District#Animosity The operators of the green line that doesn't go to a major destination, but just passes it by, LAX. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_County_Metropolitan_Transportation_Authority It isn't all happy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_Riders_Union_%28Los_Angeles%29 The entire system is not designed to get people out of their cars and off the freeway. If it was it wouldn't operate on the routes it does. It operates to take the poor non-car owning nannies and house cleaners from the ghetto to the suburbs and back. It does not take the car owners from their houses to their work places and stores. But if you don't live here to know the demographics and routes ... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
In LA they have adressed the problem and it's so easy to change the infrastructurs in cities. I saw this in a docu from LA some years ago and most likely the project have been cancelled because lack of interrest and no money to make... And most of the problem is getting to work! One hour is common. And in Stockholm as well... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
In LA they have adressed the problem and it's so easy to change the infrastructurs in cities. Oh they produce grand documentaries to get votes for bond measures to feather-bed their own pocketbooks. What gets built is very different than what they claim. Just normal politics. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
well that's what you get for everything being Bigger and Better in the states , everyone needs a car to get to the huge wal mart stores miles away from the high street so everyone gets FAT as there to far away to walk . The sad part is that everybody is doing the same thing 45% of the people over weight in most developed country's !!........ |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
well that's what you get for everything being Bigger and Better in the states , everyone needs a car to get to the huge wal mart stores miles away from the high street so everyone gets FAT as there to far away to walk . And some get help to bring food to big peoples so called feeders. My GF met Panamas defense minister a couple of times. He had many sisters that was feeders. For snacks he used to eat a couple of chickens! |
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