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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Guys, lets stop about agriculture, 'cause we all have to eat! You mean start talking of way of life and how thats effect the climate? For a starter a rich person has a bigger CO2 footprint than a poor person. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Guys, lets stop about agriculture, 'cause we all have to eat! I think in the worst case the western world only need go back a few decades when consumption of products that emit CO2 where much lower. But Big Biz doesn't like that. They need revenue. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Guys, lets stop about agriculture, 'cause we all have to eat! My aren't you the optimist. As the largest release of man made AGW occurred before the industrial revolution, to keep our current population, we likely need to go back before we were able to control fire. If we accept a population 1/2 that of today, we might be able to advance to just before the plow was invented. To keep current western standards we will need to reduce to the number of the Georgia Guidestones. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
My aren't you the optimist. As the largest release of man made AGW occurred before the industrial revolution, to keep our current population, we likely need to go back before we were able to control fire. If we accept a population 1/2 that of today, we might be able to advance to just before the plow was invented. To keep current western standards we will need to reduce to the number of the Georgia Guidestones. Yes I'm an optimist in that sense knowing how many solutions to the problem there already are. But it costs money and will to use the solutions. For instance. Population growth can easily be stopped by ending poverty. It's "only" Africa and Asia that has that problem now. The agriculture problem could be solved by better management. Mostly the western world are part of the problem. There is a long list of other things that could be done but most of us doesn't like that we should "go back in time". So my realistic side say's that any big change will happen is not likely. But "going back in time" is probably not needed if we all work together. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
My aren't you the optimist. As the largest release of man made AGW occurred before the industrial revolution, to keep our current population, we likely need to go back before we were able to control fire. If we accept a population 1/2 that of today, we might be able to advance to just before the plow was invented. To keep current western standards we will need to reduce to the number of the Georgia Guidestones. My Hypothesis? No that's facts. Myth Buster Hans Rosling: Don't use news media to understand the world (english subtitles) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYnpJGaMiXo 'Work Together' is sometimes called global economy and free market. Supply and demand will (I hope) eventually correct our mistakes when we have a true global economy. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
'Work Together' is sometimes called global economy and free market. You say. "Free Markets = Gaining Wealth, and Power to Enforce their Wealth, and F... 'The People'"? What? That's not a free market. Remember that 'The People' are customers. Capitalism is however different and are often used to change the rules of a free market to gain profit. |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
Guys, lets stop about agriculture, 'cause we all have to eat! again, yes it has to...but in a "long runs"! it's better to have a priorities straight...all addictions should be dealt with firstly! also, those tobacco plants can be substitute in a far better produce than addictive plants! ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
those tobacco plants can be substitute in a far better produce than addictive plants! Does that mean Hemp too ???? Crap no Pot to smoke oh no ! now we are in big trouble . All them Dole bludgers will have to find a real job they can't grow and sell there crop . Guess all the gold traders are going to lose a lot of cash nobody to buy the Big Chunky gold chains they wear around there necks :-) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Me thinks, KLiK needs a couple of 'Hits'. Well he will have to get his own YOUR not getting any of mine :-) |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
those tobacco plants can be substitute in a far better produce than addictive plants! only industrial...for some cloths! :P non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
If any of you that doubted me in post postid=1744027, then how about this news story, The Guardian - Osborne reliant on rising immigration levels to achieve budget surplus |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
And here are the result of The Climate Change Performance Index CCPI 2015. https://germanwatch.org/en/download/10407.pdf None of the countries achieved positions one to three. No country is doing enough to prevent dangerous climate change. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Energy use, blue water footprint, and greenhouse gas emissions for current food consumption patterns and dietary recommendations in the US Abstract |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Well now the Cop is over we can all relax . The world has signed the COP agreement . Global warming has been averted . We will not be regressing back to the trees as apes in 70 years from high levels of Co2 . Now when you all wake up you may realize you have all been conned . And to think it was my own Country behind what has happened lead by that great party called the "Liberal Natianl Party" and to think the master mind is no longer even our Prime Minister . You know that wonderful man who is a "Rhodes scholar " and genious "Tony Abbott" What do I mean well that's for another thread bye bye |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Well now the Cop is over we can all relax . The world has signed the COP agreement . [off topic] http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/dec/18/oxford-university-students-cecli-rhodes [/off topic] |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
A little bit of a breeze this past week and also possibly some increased supply capacity and... We've had wind generated power pretty steady at 5GW to 6GW for the last few days here in the UK. At the moment at night we have 5GW of wind generating 18% of the UK power supply. That is greater than coal and about the same as gas. And meanwhile, renewables have been too successful and so their subsidies have been slashed whilst the tax subsidies to the polluting fossils has been increased! There are better ways than to pollute our planet! All on our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions Sign the Cop agreement Only one thing you all have not figured out . How can a country say they have reduced there Co2 output but in actual reality they have not mmmmmm Buy carbon credits .......!!!!! And to think it has been my own country leading the way under the expert genius Liberal Party that was run by Tony Abbott but now it's Malcolm Turnbull same crap different face And to think a carbon tax does nothing but a carbon trading system does . Yeh right if you say so . Oh by the way the temp up at the North pole this week will be 50 degrees above normal in the middle of winter funny that , is it not . Oh and while I remember the Co2 went up more than 3 ppm this last year 63.3 years and counting till it's all over at 3 ppm per year |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Plant a tree, warm the globe ... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/trees-climate-change-worse-not-better-article-1.2522614 Everything you know about climate change is wrong. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Washington Post article about NASA's study of the oceans and ice. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/02/08/what-the-earth-will-be-like-in-10000-years-according-to-scientists/?wpisrc=nl_rainbow Good video on Greenland's ice cap over the last 10 years, about half way down the page. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
The hazards of 'settled science'... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/australia-cuts-110-climate-scientist-jobs/ Australia Cuts 110 Climate Scientist Jobs And so it begins... |
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