Are we getting ready for some new announcement?

During the past 6 months we had no need to use but one splitter, and as of today all three are working, and there are enough units to fulfill all requeriments.

Will this mean that the old Seti is about to be abandoned and we are getting ready for the avalanche of new comers?

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Patience is a virtue.

Matt L. posted over on the Classic forums that they have ordered some additional hardware, and are awaiting its arrival (EARLY next year). Once it arrives, gets configured/hooked up/tested, then Classic goes dark. They APPEAR (and its just a guess on my part) to be building up a stash of work units to handle the additional load of those Classic participants that end up migrating.

Allow me to have some fun stoking the fire with some pre-announcement info:

1. I started up all three splitters just to make sure they were working nicely in tandem. One splitter was plenty to handle our current demand. We cannot "build up" workunits as we currently only store about 500,000 on disk at any given time (when we get about this amount, the splitters go to sleep). But now I have at least proven that when demand increases, we'll be able to keep up.

2. New equipment has been acquired (and actually arrived earlier than expected). Much setup/testing needs to happen before we make any wild claims. The good news is that this stuff is in our lab *now* (when we expected it to arrive in early January). I don't celebrate Christmas, nor travel during this time of year, so I (and other team members) will be working on and off over the next two weeks trying to bring all the new servers on line.

Feel free to use this information to adjust your predictions about when we are going to shut down classic SETI@home.

- Matt

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-- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude

Thanks for the Info Matt

We're basically waiting on some new hardware to arrive
which will vastly increase our ability to handle all the
current SETI@home classic users. These items will arrive
early in the new year. Once everything is configured,
everybody's being shifted to BOINC and classic will be
turned off for good.

Of course, with this new hardware, we will also be able to
turn BOINC pending credit back on.

Keeping classic SETI@home running forever will actually
be physically (as well as fiscally) impossible. We need
to cannibalize that hardware for BOINC, or turn it off
as our server closet cannot handle any more heat from the
excess machinery.

- Matt


taken from Is SETI Classic being closed?

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> 2. New equipment has been acquired (and actually arrived earlier than
> expected). Much setup/testing needs to happen before we make any wild claims.
> The good news is that this stuff is in our lab *now* (when we expected it to
> arrive in early January).
>
> - Matt
>
>
>

Matt, any way we can find out what the new hardware is? Some of us are just too curious for our own good.

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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 22:54:51 -0800
From: David Anderson
Subject: [boinc_alpha] new test project
To: boinc_alpha@ssl.berkeley.edu

I've made a new project, a clone of the alpha test project.

The user table is a copy of the alpha test,
so your authenticators are the same.
The new project has the same apps
(S@h and Astropulse, but only S@h work right now).

Please attach to this project and let me know if everything is working.
It should act the same as the current alpha test, but
things are different under the hood:

1) it's using the new Dell 2850 server, much faster than the SPARCs,
and Linux instead of Solaris.

2) it's using a new rev of the BOINC server software that has
nifty new features (e.g., work distribution is prioritized,
so that we can give AP priority over S@h or vice versa).

-- David

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Fred
BOINC Alpha, BOINC Beta, LHC Alpha, Einstein Alpha

Hallo

Thanks Matt and Fred for this good news.

greetz Mike

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> Feel free to use this information to adjust your predictions about when we are
> going to shut down classic SETI@home.

:-)

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Grant
Darwin NT

>
> Matt, any way we can find out what the new hardware is? Some of us are just
> too curious for our own good.
>

Not sure if they've got multiple new servers to install, but they're atleast got a new database-server, and this is listed in the Taskbase as #1478 ;)

This is a SUN V40z + SUN StorEdge 3510:
Dual Opteron 844, 1.8 GHz (max 4 cpu)
8 GB memory (max 8 GB/cpu)
RAID-array, max 876 GB unformatted if 15k-disks, 1.72 TB if 10k-disks.



As for the Dell 2850 server, this will AFAIK only run alpha/beta and other test-projects, since one of the main reasons to getting this server was so "public" & test-projects doesn't rely on same hardware so one of them going down will not interfere with the other still running as normal.
It's possible BOINC also will be moved to the Dell-server, so some info & client-download can also reside on this box.

Of course, if they're running out of computer-power, they'll probably run more things on the Dell also. ;)

Matt,

> Feel free to use this information to adjust your predictions about when we are
> going to shut down classic SETI@home.

Hmmm, well, I did not think that the Alpha tests of the cross-platform GUI were going quite that well ...

I thought that that was the next thing that was to change before the mass migration ...

I suppose that is what I get for thinking!

:)

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Hi

I think you´re not so wrong Paul.

greetz from Germany
Mike

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David's 2850 server is not the one(s) Matt was referring to.

That 2850 has been at seti for over 1 month as of David's email.

To answer some questions:

The cross platform GUI work is happening simultaneously with any new hardware installs. Not sure of the status of that (not my department), but it'll probably be working by the time any new systems are up.

The Dell server is old news - the new equipment I'm referring to was Sun V40z, etc. which is listed in some other post below. It'll be a vast improvement over our current database server (a Sun 220) - it will have faster disks (hardware RAID), more disk space, much faster CPUs (and the ability to expand - we're starting with 2), and much more memory (8GB with the ability to grow vs. 2GB max).

As well, what I'm working on specifically right now is some donated equipment - a whole batch of boards given to us by a private donor to be named later in some technical news item. I was able to use these parts to assemble a whole new E3500 system that is slightly more powerful that our current E3500 system. We will use this new E3500 to help migrate off the slow, bulky, non-RAIDed disks on the old E3500 and onto much faster storage. This will be our new back-end science database server, and with more CPU/RAM power and faster disks we will be able to clear out the backlog of SETI@home classic data to be reduced within a few months (and then free up a 4-cpu E450 for other use). As well, the validator and assimilator will be able to insert data much faster as well. I'm busy waiting for a solaris 9 install on this machine, hence the influx of free time to jot down this little missive to y'all.

- Matt

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-- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude

Thanks Matt for the Updates!

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Matt,

Well, nice news!

In anticipation of more participants I am looking at a new host for the docs and refining the way they are built so that I will reduce bandwidth used (primarily not downloading all versions of the images for all projects as we are getting close to having some new ones).

Just a side note, it seems that my docs do ok in FireFox too ...

Now if I can get people to stop using IE I would be happy (most of the problems I suffer for are because IE does not conform to standards - so what else is new?) ...

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