Timelord, Im sorry your dad has to go through that.

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So sorry to hear about your dad Scott. :( I wish him and all of you the very best. It's a big operation I know, but hopefully his other kidney function is good enough to allow him to lead as normal a life as possible after the op. Please keep us posted.

James - I know what you mean - I sadly wasn't a match when I was tested as a potential donor, but I still have hopes that I might be for my daughter.

I remember many years ago, seeing an American comedian talking about organ donation - and it always stuck in my memory. :) I can't remember who it was, but he carried a donor card and he said something to the effect that he didn't see it as him donating parts of himself to keep another person alive, but more that someone else would be donating their whole body to keep a bit of him alive. Which sort of makes me smile a bit... in a strange sort of mediocre way.

So sorry to hear about your dad Scott. :( I wish him and all of you the very best. It's a big operation I know, but hopefully his other kidney function is good enough to allow him to lead as normal a life as possible after the op. Please keep us posted.

James - I know what you mean - I sadly wasn't a match when I was tested as a potential donor, but I still have hopes that I might be for my daughter.

I remember many years ago, seeing an American comedian talking about organ donation - and it always stuck in my memory. :) I can't remember who it was, but he carried a donor card and he said something to the effect that he didn't see it as him donating parts of himself to keep another person alive, but more that someone else would be donating their whole body to keep a bit of him alive. Which sort of makes me smile a bit... in a strange sort of mediocre way.

Annie, I dont know who he was either, But truer words were never spoken. And I never had looked at that way either.

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Annie, I, sorry that you are for a better word bewilderd. Our thougts are with you.

A kidney donation does not have to mean that some family sufferd a loss. My brother in law had a cousin donate a kidney. There are some great selfless people out there who do things like that.

Oonah donated both her kidneys and her heart. Her heart is in a 35 year old woman now. Don't know exactly where her kidneys are. I'm very glad my mum made the decision to donate Oonah's organs, I couldn't cause I was still in a coma.

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Annie, I, sorry that you are for a better word bewilderd. Our thougts are with you.

A kidney donation does not have to mean that some family sufferd a loss. My brother in law had a cousin donate a kidney. There are some great selfless people out there who do things like that.

Oonah donated both her kidneys and her heart. Her heart is in a 35 year old woman now. Don't know exactly where her kidneys are. I'm very glad my mum made the decision to donate Oonah's organs, I couldn't cause I was still in a coma.

Oonah has touched all our lives Julie - through you, her truly wonderful mum. :) It doesn't suprise me at all that she lives on in the physical world, giving life to others whilst remaining free of it's hardships and cares, safe in your heart and her sisters'... and in no small way, ours too I think.

It must have been a hard decision for your mum knowing how poorly you were - but I'm so glad that it was the right one for you all. :)

Annie, I, sorry that you are for a better word bewilderd. Our thougts are with you.

A kidney donation does not have to mean that some family sufferd a loss. My brother in law had a cousin donate a kidney. There are some great selfless people out there who do things like that.

Oonah donated both her kidneys and her heart. Her heart is in a 35 year old woman now. Don't know exactly where her kidneys are. I'm very glad my mum made the decision to donate Oonah's organs, I couldn't cause I was still in a coma.

Oonah has touched all our lives Julie - through you, her truly wonderful mum. :) It doesn't suprise me at all that she lives on in the physical world, giving life to others whilst remaining free of it's hardships and cares, safe in your heart and her sisters'... and in no small way, ours too I think.

It must have been a hard decision for your mum knowing how poorly you were - but I'm so glad that it was the right one for you all. :)

Come to think of it, my mom couldn't so my sister had to give her autograph, so strange I forgot... (the children were on my name so Seppe's family didn't have any rights but they arranged the biggest part of the funeral...:(

[edit] No, that was to lay Oonah off the machines and let her die. They gave her morphine before it. I asked the doctor afterwards why. She answered to make Oonah's death as painless as possible. My mother did put her autograph for the organ donation.

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Annie, I, sorry that you are for a better word bewilderd. Our thougts are with you.

A kidney donation does not have to mean that some family sufferd a loss. My brother in law had a cousin donate a kidney. There are some great selfless people out there who do things like that.

Oonah donated both her kidneys and her heart. Her heart is in a 35 year old woman now. Don't know exactly where her kidneys are. I'm very glad my mum made the decision to donate Oonah's organs, I couldn't cause I was still in a coma.

Oonah has touched all our lives Julie - through you, her truly wonderful mum. :) It doesn't suprise me at all that she lives on in the physical world, giving life to others whilst remaining free of it's hardships and cares, safe in your heart and her sisters'... and in no small way, ours too I think.

It must have been a hard decision for your mum knowing how poorly you were - but I'm so glad that it was the right one for you all. :)

Come to think of it, my mom couldn't so my sister had to give her autograph, so strange I forgot... (the children were on my name so Seppe's family didn't have any rights but they arranged the biggest part of the funeral...:(

:( not strange at all Julie - our brains are a total mystery. Some things they swallow in a dense mist (sometimes never to be retrieved) and others they give us utter clarity on.

Good to hear Julie. I am a registered donor too here, via my DMV. I hope that wish will be respected in other Countries as well. I will back that up with a Power of Attorney soon.

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Good to hear Julie. I am a registered donor too here, via my DMV. I hope that wish will be respected in other Countries as well. I will back that up with a Power of Attorney soon.

Hi Uli *waves* A donor codicil is valid all over the world I think.

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Good to hear Julie. I am a registered donor too here, via my DMV. I hope that wish will be respected in other Countries as well. I will back that up with a Power of Attorney soon.

As am I, and my Sister has Power of Attorney and written instructions concerning "extreme measures" and organ donation.

And suddenly John Prine is singing "Please Don't Bury Me......" in the back of (what's left of) my mind.

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Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

In WW1 it was called Shell Shock, In WW2 they called it Battle fatique. Its mostly applied to veterans who have seen combat, And rightly so. But it also affects others who have been in a situation where things have gone terribley wrong.

The purpose on my starting this is not to define what PTSD is, Or argue who has it or who dosent. Its to tell your story. I have found that most people dont talk about it because of shame. And when they do the other person cant relate because they havent been there or done that. I believe that the American legion after WW1 was formed for and by Vets just so they could talk to other Vets.

So this thread is for all those who suffer who need to finally get it out in the open.

I enlisted in 1972 in the Air Force. My AFSC was 57170. Fire protection specialist. A fancy word for I was a crash and rescue fireman. I got out in 1980.

I am not a Veit Nam vet Nor have I ever seen combat. Im just an era vet.

But we had a T33 trainer crash in 1976 at At Tyndall AFB in Fla. That I cannot get out on my memory. One pilot died when he ejected in the wrong direction. the other lived long enough to try to get away from the burning wreckage by crawling on his elbows with no leggs. And the smell was well if you have ever smelled burnt flesh you will never forget it.

I was also a volunteer fireman for close to 20 years. I have many more things Id rather not think about.

Nothing but respect, thank you for what you did Sir!

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Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

In WW1 it was called Shell Shock, In WW2 they called it Battle fatique. Its mostly applied to veterans who have seen combat, And rightly so. But it also affects others who have been in a situation where things have gone terribley wrong.

The purpose on my starting this is not to define what PTSD is, Or argue who has it or who dosent. Its to tell your story. I have found that most people dont talk about it because of shame. And when they do the other person cant relate because they havent been there or done that. I believe that the American legion after WW1 was formed for and by Vets just so they could talk to other Vets.

So this thread is for all those who suffer who need to finally get it out in the open.

I enlisted in 1972 in the Air Force. My AFSC was 57170. Fire protection specialist. A fancy word for I was a crash and rescue fireman. I got out in 1980.

I am not a Veit Nam vet Nor have I ever seen combat. Im just an era vet.

But we had a T33 trainer crash in 1976 at At Tyndall AFB in Fla. That I cannot get out on my memory. One pilot died when he ejected in the wrong direction. the other lived long enough to try to get away from the burning wreckage by crawling on his elbows with no leggs. And the smell was well if you have ever smelled burnt flesh you will never forget it.

I was also a volunteer fireman for close to 20 years. I have many more things Id rather not think about.

Nothing but respect, thank you for what you did Sir!

And we who have sufferd PTSD in any form thank you for reading our pain.
As has been stated before, All are welcome to post or not post. But we hope you get an insight what others have faced and overcome. Does that mean that you forget, and all is hunky dory again? No far from it, You never forget, But you move on and live life. And Im am very satisfied with my life.

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Couldn't have said it better James, wise words:)

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Couldn't have said it better James, wise words:)

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It's the challenges in life from which we learn the most

It's the challenges in life from which we learn the most

Or what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger:)

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I've grown stronger in the last three months, going through my mother's illness, than in the sum of my 46 years. Life on this planet really adapts and moves forward somehow.

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I've grown stronger in the last three months, going through my mother's illness, than in the sum of my 46 years. Life on this planet really adapts and moves forward somehow.

It sure does Gordon:) I believe you two, being so close, gives you and her strength, you have a 'mission' together. I remember Dirk (Sutaru Tsureku) here a couple of months ago. His mother was dying, he was very worried and posted regular updates here in the Cafe. They are both doing quite well now:)

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I've grown stronger in the last three months, going through my mother's illness, than in the sum of my 46 years. Life on this planet really adapts and moves forward somehow.

It sure does Gordon:) I believe you two, being so close, gives you and her strength, you have a 'mission' together. I remember Dirk (Sutaru Tsureku) here a couple of months ago. His mother was dying, he was very worried and posted regular updates here in the Cafe. They are both doing quite well now:)

I apparently missed his posts. I didn't start using the forum until March, when I found this PTSD thread.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

I've grown stronger in the last three months, going through my mother's illness, than in the sum of my 46 years. Life on this planet really adapts and moves forward somehow.

It sure does Gordon:) I believe you two, being so close, gives you and her strength, you have a 'mission' together. I remember Dirk (Sutaru Tsureku) here a couple of months ago. His mother was dying, he was very worried and posted regular updates here in the Cafe. They are both doing quite well now:)

I remeber that Julie.
Im trying to pick the right words about what I want to say. Its more emotion and feeling then a concrete thought. So please bare with me.

I was ten years old when I found out what death was. That was when my Grandfather died. My parents and everyone else tried so hard to hide it from us kids. As the oldest in my family I knew something was up. And after he died we were not even allowed to go to the wake or the funeral. To this day I feel that is and was wrong. As far as I know every single one of us is going to die. And hiding it from anyone is wrong.
Fast forward to 2003. My Grandmother( my grand fathers wife) who was 96 was slipping fast. Every single member of the family from young to old was there to say goodbye. And when my dad died in 08 the sane thing.

Well, I dont know what im feeling is what is being typed. But never sugar coat death to your kids. They deserve the truth also.

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I've grown stronger in the last three months, going through my mother's illness, than in the sum of my 46 years. Life on this planet really adapts and moves forward somehow.

It sure does Gordon:) I believe you two, being so close, gives you and her strength, you have a 'mission' together. I remember Dirk (Sutaru Tsureku) here a couple of months ago. His mother was dying, he was very worried and posted regular updates here in the Cafe. They are both doing quite well now:)

I remeber that Julie.
Im trying to pick the right words about what I want to say. Its more emotion and feeling then a concrete thought. So please bare with me.

I was ten years old when I found out what death was. That was when my Grandfather died. My parents and everyone else tried so hard to hide it from us kids. As the oldest in my family I knew something was up. And after he died we were not even allowed to go to the wake or the funeral. To this day I feel that is and was wrong. As far as I know every single one of us is going to die. And hiding it from anyone is wrong.
Fast forward to 2003. My Grandmother( my grand fathers wife) who was 96 was slipping fast. Every single member of the family from young to old was there to say goodbye. And when my dad died in 08 the sane thing.

Well, I dont know what im feeling is what is being typed. But never sugar coat death to your kids. They deserve the truth also.

Agreed 100% James. My kids know the whole truth about the accident, how bad Seppe's injuries were that nobody could see him anymore in his coffin e.g. or how long it took till Oonah died... Children have a right to know the truth.

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