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Message 1462623 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 17:10:01 UTC

Hi everyone,
on the Nvidia site is a new driver version 332.21 available. As the title reads, is is worth speed wise upgrading from version 331.82?


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Message 1462631 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 17:19:45 UTC - in response to Message 1462623.

You can be the first to try.

Let us know what you discover.

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Message 1462648 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 17:39:08 UTC

Oh well, that's why i asked:
I'm on a very slow internet connection right now and the drivers are a relatively big package. I'll have to wait 'til Sunday, when i have a fast connection again.


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Message 1462653 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 17:48:22 UTC

I had a heck of a time upgrading the kitty farm to 331.82 last week.
On most rigs, things went OK. I had one rig that never had XP SP2 installed, so I had to do that first.
But on the 3 oldest rigs, after loading the new drivers, they would not restart XP.

I had to get into safe mode and reinstall the drivers there, then things seemed to sort themselves out.


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Message 1462659 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 18:04:01 UTC

I updated the Win 8.1 machine last night, no change as far as I can tell. I think I have isolated my 'Flickering Screen/Black Screen After Installing Geforce.com Display Drivers on Windows 8' though. For me, it seems to only happen if I choose the Clean Install option. The New Driver never even attempts to install, the Win 8 screens just go black and it dies as soon as the installer removes the older driver. If I don't choose the Clean Install Option everything works as expected. I'm debating on whether I should write nVidia a memo...

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Message 1462662 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 18:09:13 UTC - in response to Message 1462659.

Did you wait long enough? My Win 7 rig took foreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever to install.
I do NOT like the way it tries to update the video driver on the fly.
I much prefer the way XP does it. Load the driver, then reboot to finish the actual changeover.


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Message 1462665 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 18:11:59 UTC - in response to Message 1462659.

I updated the Win 8.1 machine last night, no change as far as I can tell. I think I have isolated my 'Flickering Screen/Black Screen After Installing Geforce.com Display Drivers on Windows 8' though. For me, it seems to only happen if I choose the Clean Install option. The New Driver never even attempts to install, the Win 8 screens just go black and it dies as soon as the installer removes the older driver. If I don't choose the Clean Install Option everything works as expected. I'm debating on whether I should write nVidia a memo...

If you wait long enough, it can come back again. I have that too - using an HDMI monitor (don't know if that's significant). I have VNC access to the machine in question, so I can verify that the installation is proceeding behind the black screen - or not, as the case may be. Windows is usually asking for permission to install an unsigned USB driver, or something silly like that.

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Message 1462667 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 18:19:56 UTC - in response to Message 1462662.

30 minutes and numerous reboots should be long enough to stare at Black Flashing Screens. The Screens aren't Flashing, they are turning On and Off. That can't be good to have your monitors turn on and off every second or two. It even screws up the Monitors attached to the AMD card...total meltdown. People have been fighting this for over a year and nVidia's explanation never did address the problem. I think I'll let them stew as angry people continue to harass them.

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Message 1462676 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 18:55:05 UTC

These monthly driver updates are mostly for gamers, no difference in crunching.

When I update video drivers I find my analog monitor will stay on for most of the update wile a digital one may go black for some time.


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Message 1462713 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 19:30:13 UTC

Flickering Screen/Black Screen After Installing Geforce.com Display Drivers on Windows 8
The first time I tried installing 331.82 with 'Clean Install' Windows 8.1 refused to boot after the second restart. I couldn't even get to the screen to choose Safe Boot. I had to remove the nVidia card to even get 8.1 to boot. Windows then spent a few minutes 'Updating' before finally booting. Previous times I was able to get to the Safe Screen. Whatever is happening, it appears to be instigated by merely choosing a 'Clean Install'...in my case. I've never had any problems installing the AMD Drivers in Windows 8.x. Like I said, I've been fighting this for a year and have tried everything an Advanced User could try. nVidia just blames M$...

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Message 1462725 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 19:53:17 UTC - in response to Message 1462713.
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Hmmm, interesting situation there. historically I've certainly had positive experiences with nVidia bug reporting mechanisms, when I provide the comprehensive info requested and any follow-up. The 'blame game' isn't usually their style, and not sure I read that into the request for more information. Fingers crossed that it isn't an MS induced situation, since those can be notoriously difficult to debug...


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Message 1462741 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 20:17:16 UTC

I much prefer the way XP does it. Load the driver, then reboot to finish the actual changeover.

I have found in the past that whilst Vista and Win7 appear not to need a reebot, I have had instances where Boinc cant find the GPU till rebooted.

I did my 7 yesterday, took a while but rebooted them all after install and no problems so far.
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Message 1462753 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 20:34:20 UTC

I am running windows 7 64 bit ultimate....no problems here...running great

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Message 1462787 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 21:52:45 UTC - in response to Message 1462753.

I am running windows 7 64 bit ultimate....no problems here...running great

+1 in diferent GPU/CPU configurations including one XP/32.

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Message 1462791 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 22:06:06 UTC

Me too NP; two updates on Win 8.1 machines.


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Message 1462793 - Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 22:23:31 UTC
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Message 1463308 - Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 23:04:03 UTC - in response to Message 1462725.

Hmmm, interesting situation there. historically I've certainly had positive experiences with nVidia bug reporting mechanisms, when I provide the comprehensive info requested and any follow-up. The 'blame game' isn't usually their style, and not sure I read that into the request for more information. Fingers crossed that it isn't an MS induced situation, since those can be notoriously difficult to debug...

I broke down and registered. The post hasn't received a reply yet, https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/648176/geforce-drivers/monitor-display-blank-screen-issue-after-driver-update/post/4086436/#4086436
Hopefully they won't ask me to ship my PC to California...

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Message 1463555 - Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 14:53:53 UTC

Finally upgraded my two crunchers running Win 8.1 64 bit and Win XP prof. 32 bit without problems.
I don't see a positive or negative impact on crunching, so it is not urgent to upgrade.


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Message 1463949 - Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 15:15:54 UTC

I just checked. My GT 440 is still running on 320.18 (Win 7). Will updating it help with crunching?

In my other rig, the GT 630 is running 310.70 (XP Pro). Same question.


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Message 1467545 - Posted: 23 Jan 2014, 4:21:16 UTC

This driver has also been long awaited to bring stability back to Fermi GPUs after a slew of problems since 314.22. That's what they are referring to :P

- [Fermi-class GPU]: Browser freezes and crashes. [1358403]


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