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Message 1663291 - Posted: 9 Apr 2015, 23:55:49 UTC

Lunatics, eh.

I was thinking about it.

Took me a little while to get at it.

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Message 1663314 - Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 0:50:18 UTC

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Message 1663334 - Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 1:31:11 UTC
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This YouTube video is a better one.

By means of just watching this video, are we 50/50 when it comes to possible proof?

Proof means or implies existence.

There probably are many people around not ready for accepting such an answer.

Trust and acknowledge what you already have. Assume that there is still more things around which you do not know about and therefore goes undetected.
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Message 1663354 - Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 2:31:48 UTC

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Message 1663360 - Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 2:40:08 UTC
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I get a loopback playlist when playing back YouTube contents.

A little irritating.

Should I perhaps start thinking and phantazising (including dreams)?

Guess what, you should say no.

Enough, you said.

Get lost, I say.

Should I believe?

Or rather leave it to other people getting to certain conclusions.

Or rather leave it to other people being able to make given or certain conclusions.

I happen to know better, but for now this is not about your business.
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Message 1663428 - Posted: 10 Apr 2015, 5:06:12 UTC

Found this one for your entertainment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTofuew9-lw

Good one. I liked this one.
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Message 1664038 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 10:40:49 UTC
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Oh, did Mark have a Youtube link for us to watch?

Meaning the BBC documentary here. For now I went away from that posting, but may be found in one of the messages at the top of the Science board here.

Edit: Message 1663642.

Thank you, Mark! I am watching this video right now.

You may notice that the last word in the title of the video is "Physics".

Together with the subject of mathematics, these two subject fields of science which are so important for the scientists, they are unfortunately somewhat difficult to understand and comprehend to many people.

When it comes to certain fields of science, for example quantum theory and dark matter, this may start up as being theories only, which needs to be proven by means and observations and measurements.

Apparently this has been discussed before.

But when dealing with possible controversial subjects like UFO research or even thunder and lightning and the idea that we may not be alone in the universe, there may be different approaches when it comes to the same subjects.

Some people may happen to be superstitious and therefore may have an interest in the fields of the supernatural or preternatural, or possibly may be subjected to such forces related to the same as well.

In some instances these subject fields become more or less recognized fields of science and are therefore being actively studied.

Here crop circles comes to my mind. I added dark matter to the paragraph above, because it is being mentioned in the video that was mentioned.

UFO research is about the observations of what may by some people be unidentified crafts having a possible extraterrestrial origin. So far there apparently is no proof of such a relationship or connection, only that these objects may be a real fact and part of nature but for now yet to be understood.

The subject field of physics is supposed to be explaining things like thermodynamics and viscosity. Or perhaps you rather use mathematics when it comes to the same. When it comes to the current research into aliens or extraterrestrial however, it really needs a different approach than when dealing with numbers alone, including prime numbers and factors.

So, therefore the way you may be approaching a particular subject field is therefore related to both your personal inclination as well as the knowledge you may be having about the same.

If you happen to be skilled and knowledgeful when it comes to a particular subject, it is also that easy to reach a specific conclusion when it comes to certain things without specific proof being present about the same.

This could have been edited and added even more for clarity. I will rather make a new post when I have something more when it comes to this.
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Message 1664069 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 13:36:33 UTC
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Should I really be doing these things?

Getting this right now.

>> help rsa

searching for help on 'rsa'
usage: rsa(expression)

description:
form a difficult to factor number of a specified bit size. NOT FOR CRYPTOGRAPHIC USE.

That is when using the Yafu factoring application which is not part of BOINC, by the way.


>> rsa(500)


ans = 20273534704479145862931240177500523985878238487310194812283678260270411945
51719795930762450530904858532028793589333148604373987890870183172111697728771

>> 20273534704479145862931240177500523985878238487310194812283678260270411945517
19795930762450530904858532028793589333148604373987890870183172111697728771



>> 20273534704479145862931240177500523985878238487310194812283678260270411945517
19795930762450530904858532028793589333148604373987890870183172111697728771


ans = 20273534704479145862931240177500523985878238487310194812283678260270411945
51719795930762450530904858532028793589333148604373987890870183172111697728771

>> 75293159045947718175118644272588947644077134051603555552436108811740640162856
3605147811816950408447604807127325128543585576730146689356339498615917


ans = 75293159045947718175118644272588947644077134051603555552436108811740640162
8563605147811816950408447604807127325128543585576730146689356339498615917

>> ans*2027353470447914586293124017750052398587823848731019481228367826027041194
551719795930762450530904858532028793589333148604373987890870183172111697728771


ans = 15264584729278890006567691158042366920324833149350311322908997348636463497
89065332868876119860063849525025474676207684131356987167417117149992652633737944
06945822138526902615310333664653597798705888343572350317831099967890379076893097
0882081616813952372496211114111722396426386266634518826969448007

>> sqrt(ans)


ans = 39069917749182541639163047350317680852437536791774982161434043475914001708
727652340969303900813182386011846700225643176112253072702462337900804151388

>> ans/2


ans = 19534958874591270819581523675158840426218768395887491080717021737957000854
363826170484651950406591193005923350112821588056126536351231168950402075694

>> ans/2


ans = 97674794372956354097907618375794202131093841979437455403585108689785004271
81913085242325975203295596502961675056410794028063268175615584475201037847

>> ecm(ans)

ecm: 0/1 curves on C148, B1=11K, B2=gmp-ecm default


***factors found***

P2 = 97

ans = 10069566430201685989475012203690123931040602265921387155008774091730412811
5277454487034288404157686561886202835633100969361476991501191592527845751

>> ecm(ans)



***factors found***

P147 = 1006956643020168598947501220369012393104060226592138715500877409173041281
15277454487034288404157686561886202835633100969361476991501191592527845751

ans = 1

-

>> 10069566430201685989475012203690123931040602265921387155008774091730412811527
7454487034288404157686561886202835633100969361476991501191592527845751


ans = 10069566430201685989475012203690123931040602265921387155008774091730412811
5277454487034288404157686561886202835633100969361476991501191592527845751

>> 13506641086599522334960321627880596993888147560566702752448514385152651060485
95338339402871505719094417982072821644715513736804197039641917430464965892742562
39341020864383202110372958725762358509643110564073501508187510676594629205563685
529475213500852879416377328533906109750544334999811150056977236890927563/ans


ans = 13413329342650748344978790222588051990593591336550164826925139045951685234
65192745578108324471178200727316466843620110219253019614934858667232085339106647
934548110

>> ans/2


ans = 67066646713253741724893951112940259952967956682750824134625695229758426173
25963727890541622355891003636582334218100551096265098074674293336160426695533239
67274055

>> ecm(ans)



***factors found***

P1 = 3

ans = 22355548904417913908297983704313419984322652227583608044875231743252808724
41987909296847207451963667878860778072700183698755032691558097778720142231844413
22424685

>> ecm(ans)

ecm: 0/1 curves on C162, B1=11K, B2=gmp-ecm default


***factors found***

C14 = 29571771811945 (which is 5 * 11 * 23 * P11 = 23376894713)

ans = 75597597082051677866819298203572147184992003916168165402551038169170800970
10767179357548903707232217080181478143533172180471091267520284079883384933

>> ecm(ans)



***factors found***

P148 = 7559759708205167786681929820357214718499200391616816540255103816917080097
010767179357548903707232217080181478143533172180471091267520284079883384933

ans = 1


Really, these numbers eventually become broken, because the are only what they are supposed to be, namely numbers.

Numbers and codes never are supposed to be the same. Codes are meant to be unbreakable. The same thing can never be said about numbers alone.
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Message 1664145 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 16:52:29 UTC
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Still here.

I guess research into numbers is not that important to many people.

Mostly because they do not understand the meaning of it.

Check in with these links.

Here you may find a summary of most of my contributions to Seti@home.

Anyway, you certainly know this already, so I will skip these links for now.

Seti@home is supposed to be a scientific experiment. If you did not happen to know so, the purpose of the Seti@home client is to be looking for RADIO SIGNALS. Also, such signals when possibly being detected should be assumed to be intelligent in origin, or presumed to be as such.

The gaussian scores which are being returned by the Seti@home client are supposed to be calculated scores based on radio signals which are thought of as having a natural origin and as a result of emission coming from objects like the Sun, Jupiter, other stars, supernova remnants and radio galaxies.

In my current Seti@home log, the best score I apparently have right now is 14.525034. Does such a score give any expectations when it comes to our wish for knowledge?

Probably no. Such a score needs to be much higher.

When checking in with the seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu web pages, you may find a listing there having the name "Comprehensive list of promising Gaussian candidates" under the link Signal candidates.

Therefore there may still be the general assumption that a given gaussian score is likely to be the best indicator when it comes to the possible existence of extraterrestrial intelligence. A single gaussian on its own may not be having any particular significance, but a transmission, should it ever be detected, would have to be assumed of consisting of individual gaussians, which when combined, likely would give the indication of the presence of such a signal, regardless whether or not such a signal may be interpreted and understood.

The Planck constant is supposed to be an indicator for symmetry and patterns in nature. In the field of mathematics, we are supposed to be dealing with constants, but in nature both numbers as well as patterns more likely are present by means of variables.

Therefore a given or specific result may be assumed by the factors that are representing it. Take the mentioned P147 and P148 numbers which are factors and multiply each number with each other. The result becomes a composite number which is quite hard to factorize individually. Still, even if such a number is prime, it only gives the representation of one single number. The rest of it still is there to be finished up at later stage.

Neither possible radio signals which at times may be found by the Seti@home client nor the pleasure of finding both prime factors and even larger prime numbers as well may be compared with the fun of a game of chess.

I am going for my coffee and cake right now. Enjoy the rest of your day!
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Message 1664167 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 17:53:51 UTC
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There is another thing which happens to be on my mind as well.

I happen to get quite well when it comes to company regarding our common friend Mark Sattler here at Seti@home.

Which is a great thing, of course.

But, is this not a real fact, because it affects both you and me and all other people as well that ageing is part of our lives and we are supposed to be living only once.

If you are lucky, most of your life should be happiness most of the time.

Instead of reflecting about both success and mishaps that you may have had and even not making any specific thoughts about "what is next", perhaps a thought should be rather be given when it comes to your expected performance when you are supposed to be active in business.

Until recently, retirement age was some 65 - 67 years when it comes to several professions. Some places have such retirement age as low as 60 years of age.

But the fact really is that people are different. Some people live most of their days almost the same way when having grown up and possibly settled down, maybe not actively working for the sake or purpose of earning money, but rather receiving money for living by means of social security or more likely "public assistance".

On the other hand you may rather be having a personality that too easily burns you out by means of what you are doing. Rather than celebrating your 30'th birthday one day, you may wake up the next day or so, finding that you just have passed 60 or 70 years of age.

Such a thing really is sad when it happens, but because many people are having particular life experiences possibly at work, they may eventually recognize that time has passed and the sun is closing in on the horizon.

Perhaps a thought should be given more often about this. Too often it becomes to late for most people when such a thing eventually happens.
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Message 1664208 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 19:32:01 UTC
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Definitely working good right now.

Just found a PRP519 which for now gets added to my list.

It hangs here again, so I will log off and on again and continue afterwards.

In fact right now missing those Seti@home tasks which should be here as well.
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Message 1664241 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 20:32:47 UTC
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Anyway, I happen to be quite familiar with sky-map.org right now.

Ever heard about a constellation having the name of Volans?

I will be going there for a look in just a short while from now.

But with the current position somewhere in Cetus, I am asking myself the following question.

The Milky Way is a spiral galaxy. Some people think it may be a barred one, although I am not so sure about that.

But if the diameter of the Milky Way is supposed to be some 100,000 light years and its thickness from "top" to "bottom" straight through at our location is some 6,000 light years, one may expect much smaller concentrations or densities when it comes to stars being present and visible.

But not necessarily so. The celestial sky in constellations like Cetus is not at all empty and in many places there are stars visible all across the field. If you happen to turn off the lights in the dark, you may be able to have a look at those distant background galaxies as well, but this is not the main point this time.

Is there an explanation for this stellar density being visible? If the Milky Way is having some 200,000,000,000 - 300,000,000,000 stars, most of these stars would be present in the main disc as well as the central hub. But when looking at places like Cetus, the stellar field still appears to be quite crowded.

So, am I just a little missed here, or is the heaven really "full of stars"?

Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
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Message 1664254 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 20:57:05 UTC
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Or have a look here using sky-map.

22h16m, -19°13' .

Found the circle. Hope the browser accepts the special character.

Zoom in on the field as well as pan around after your evening coffee (and before your beer and potato chips).

Make up your own mind if you are having a good monitor. It is supposed to be a heaven full of stars.

Not for Politics, by the way.

Good night (and thanks for that one).
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Message 1666635 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 1:36:26 UTC
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Did I perhaps see someone's *** here yesterday while reading through the threads?

Possibly blame my eyes and not what I am able to read.

But science at times ends up being contradictory.

We choose to be doing science because we assume certain things to be related to the subject of science.

Because Isaac Newton was once sitting below a tree in a garden and an apple fell on his head, he was able to come up with the force of gravity and assume that the world was not only a place to be living in.

Because we as human beings happen to be curious because of our intelligence, we are asking ourselves questions where answers to such questions are not readily been found. Instead of taking nature for granted and accepting that things are there for it to be, we rather seek answers to questions and making assumptions that nature is hiding mysteries and unsolved questions for us yet to solve.

Therefore, if you happen to be a scientist, you may seek an answer to questions being asked and an explanation to unsolved mysteries which may be around.

Since we happen to know of the force of gravity and our notion of the presence of space we are steadily making new discoveries in research fields which are related to the study of these fields. Being able to come up with answers to questions related to science, gives a better understanding of the nature we happen to be a part of.

Nature is there for everyone to see, witness and observe regardless of your attitude which may be related to the religious or maybe even spriritual. To some people things that are not readily being explained soon becomes related to the supernatural or preternatural. If you rather happen to be superstititous when it comes to certain things, this is because you tend to believe in phenomena which are not related to the natural.

Is there any difference here, perhaps?

Like mathematics and physics, astronomy and astobiology happen to be established sciences because they are dealing with the world around us which we happen to be able to see and observe.

Again, I did not have the time or resources to make this posting a lecture.

Still hoping that you were able to receive the intended meaning of it.
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Message 1666646 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 1:54:57 UTC
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Nevertheless, I posted a question here earlier on regarding resource sharing between BOINC projects.

If you happen to make a laugh of BOINC, you should know that Dr. David Anderson is still around possibly able to "kick your ass".

Which of course is meant for those silly users of BOINC.

Everyone knows that Seti@home awards a low credit score when it comes to results of tasks when it comes to for example PrimeGrid.

Therefore, please do not make a fool of me when it comes to this.

If I should happen to make a summary of everything, I definitely would be overloaded and left a burden on my shoulders.

Thanks!
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Message 1666663 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 2:52:51 UTC
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Make it astrobiology.


Back to the question of accountability.

Is Seti@home worth anything?

Is it supposed to be ruled (or governed) by idiots and run by people not even able to spell their words.

Astronomy is all about science. The same goes or should be said when it comes to astrobiology, but do we stil happen to be knocked down to the ground by the silly fool possibly being around?
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Message 1666677 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 3:48:55 UTC - in response to Message 1666663.  

Make it astrobiology.


Back to the question of accountability.

Is Seti@home worth anything?

Is it supposed to be ruled (or governed) by idiots and run by people not even able to spell their words.

Astronomy is all about science. The same goes or should be said when it comes to astrobiology, but do we stil happen to be knocked down to the ground by the silly fool possibly being around?


People are human...we all make spelling errors. I don't think insults are necessary


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Message 1666682 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 4:04:21 UTC - in response to Message 1666677.  

People are human...we all make spelling errors. I don't think insults are necessary


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Message 1666721 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 6:35:25 UTC - in response to Message 1666682.  

Yeah, contents are always "edited" for clarity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_p0qJkEAN0&list=PLC696298FD8A422F7&index=6

Listen to it and make up your own mind.

For the experienced only.
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Message 1666729 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 7:02:46 UTC - in response to Message 1666677.  

Make it astrobiology.


Back to the question of accountability.

Is Seti@home worth anything?

Is it supposed to be ruled (or governed) by idiots and run by people not even able to spell their words.

Astronomy is all about science. The same goes or should be said when it comes to astrobiology, but do we stil happen to be knocked down to the ground by the silly fool possibly being around?


People are human...we all make spelling errors. I don't think insults are necessary

Well we all know about Knut, personally I believe most of the posts from many of his aliases are just from a pre-programmed "forum bot".

i.e. a computer or computers that tries to make intelligent posts using the other post from here and other threads.

So if he insults the whole SETI at home team well it's just one of his bots.
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