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Message 1448974 - Posted: 1 Dec 2013, 17:15:37 UTC
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About to launch.

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Message 1449030 - Posted: 1 Dec 2013, 20:31:14 UTC

It'll be a sad day for the world and the US if they succeed....

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Message 1449089 - Posted: 1 Dec 2013, 23:27:10 UTC - in response to Message 1449030.

It'll be a sad day for the world and the US if they succeed....

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China space: 'Jade Rabbit' lunar mission blasts off

I agree with Sirius B, It'll be a sad day for the world and the US if they succeed....




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Message 1449169 - Posted: 2 Dec 2013, 8:57:38 UTC

Well, if some of the popular Sci Fi writers are correct China will end up with the largest space program and will most likely put the first colonists on the moon and probably Mars. We (the USA and other western powers) had our chance but lost the nerve to take the risks necessary to keep the lead in manned space exploration.
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Message 1449191 - Posted: 2 Dec 2013, 11:24:36 UTC

To manage a rover on the Moon is not that difficult. It is much difficult to do it on Mars and the USA has 2 rovers (Opportunity and Curiosity). Let the Chinese do it too, if they can.
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Message 1449231 - Posted: 2 Dec 2013, 16:02:19 UTC
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I think that China has already said that they wanted to construct a Moonbase after 2030, but maybe Japan or Russia will beat them to it.

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Message 1449243 - Posted: 2 Dec 2013, 17:22:12 UTC

Perhaps I am in a minority but I hope things go well for the Chinese space programme.

The long term survival of the human race depends on us getting off this planet (all the eggs in one basket, as it were) and anyone who comes along who can push the edges of the technological envelope towards making this happen get's my support.

Like it or not China is the second biggest economy in the world and will likely soon have the largest. Although their reasons for doing so are probably suspect, the end result is that they are using some of the piles of money for something that has much long range potential.

And before we look too closely at the reasons for their fascination with space, let's remember that the Apollo/moon programme was basically Kennedy shoving a huge pile of poker chips into the center of the table and daring the Russians to match it. Hardly a honourable motive but one that had amazing results.
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Message 1449306 - Posted: 2 Dec 2013, 20:06:02 UTC - in response to Message 1449243.

The US could do with another Kennedyesque Leader, unfortunately, Obama isn't one.
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Message 1449884 - Posted: 4 Dec 2013, 12:58:36 UTC - in response to Message 1449243.

Perhaps I am in a minority but I hope things go well for the Chinese space programme.

The long term survival of the human race depends on us getting off this planet (all the eggs in one basket, as it were) and anyone who comes along who can push the edges of the technological envelope towards making this happen get's my support.

Like it or not China is the second biggest economy in the world and will likely soon have the largest. Although their reasons for doing so are probably suspect, the end result is that they are using some of the piles of money for something that has much long range potential.

And before we look too closely at the reasons for their fascination with space, let's remember that the Apollo/moon programme was basically Kennedy shoving a huge pile of poker chips into the center of the table and daring the Russians to match it. Hardly a honourable motive but one that had amazing results.

I agree 100% if they can do it all well and good, it just might make the USA/Europe sit up and take notice.

All power to them if they can land a man on the moon!
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Message 1453651 - Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 23:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 1449884.

update...

After sending 12 humans to the moon's surface during the Apollo Program, NASA remains committed to lunar science. Building on modern missions such as Clementine and Lunar Prospector and recent missions like LCROSS and GRAIL, NASA science has helped to map the moon, determine the presence of water ice, and understand our satellite's irregular gravity field. NASA's current missions to the moon are helping the agency understand our solar system better, informing future exploration efforts to other planetary bodies, and bringing us closer to the technologies we'll need to explore future destinations like an asteroid and Mars.

http://www.nasa.gov/content/chinas-lunar-lander-may-provide-additional-science-for-nasa-spacecraft/index.html#.UquV6ifTDSc

China's Lunar Lander May Provide Additional Science for NASA Spacecraft
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Message 1453804 - Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 8:18:49 UTC

China's Chang'e 3 lunar lander is currently orbiting the moon with its solar panels and landing legs deployed. If all goes well, the lander — which is carrying China's first robotic rover — for a planned soft-landing on Saturday, Dec. 14, Beijing Time at Sinus Iridum, also known the Bay of Rainbows.


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Message 1453888 - Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 13:32:43 UTC

It has landed successfully.....



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Message 1454133 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:40:31 UTC

Yep, sure has. Good for them I say.

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Message 1454183 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 14:20:26 UTC

Can watch most of it live on CN-TV

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Message 1454238 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 17:20:28 UTC

Hey, that's a cool link, thanks.

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Message 1454656 - Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 0:46:13 UTC

I -- and, pbly. others -- have written to the Planetary Society, in the
past, that the USA and other "Western" nations should do a joint venture
on the moon, with China, and use a lunar base for scientific and manufacturing
reasons.

From there, we can all head for Mars, on spacecraft built on the Moon, and
not on Earth.

If history repeats itself, the Chinese efforts will spur another race for
both the Moon, and Mars. Now, all we need to do is to elect another
president with JFK's vision.


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Message 1454760 - Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 9:05:36 UTC - in response to Message 1454656.

There is no need to go down a potential well such as the Moon to go to Mars. Any vehicle bound to Mars should be assembled in a low Earth orbit. then sent to a Lagrange point and from there in a low energy trajectory to Mars. But in what time? That is the question.
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Message 1454788 - Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 11:28:01 UTC

I've read of a clever method of shooting material into lunar orbit/more
distant destinations, involving an electro-magnetic "slingshot".

The experience gained by at least a limited colonization of the (dusty)
moon, should be applicable to Mars. . . and, a lot closer, if anything
should go wrong.

One thing, for sure -- if any non-USA country should set up shop on
the moon, we'll be relatively close by, to keep an eye on it.



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Message 1454808 - Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 13:01:17 UTC
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I've read of a clever method of shooting material into lunar orbit/more distant destinations, involving an electro-magnetic "slingshot".

Slingslots of spacecraft around other celestial bodies utilising gravity is well known.

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Message 1455347 - Posted: 19 Dec 2013, 2:24:25 UTC

Moon missions will, in my opinion, return to the forefront of manned space planning. NASA and ESA medical experts are worried about radiation exposure and it's potential harm to humans on long term deep space flights. The moon is only two days away and either radiation shielded habitats or caves deep enough to provide protection can be used in a short time.

It is just not practical at this time to construct manned space craft that are capable of protecting their occupants during long term deep space missions. This also goes for manned missions to asteroids as well as any Mars mission. Whatever the final solution for radiation shielding is it will be cheaper in the long run to build it on the moon and send missions from there than to build assemblies on earth and launch them into orbit before a trip to Mars. That is assuming someone has a working manned complex on the moon.
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