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Message 1443658 - Posted: 18 Nov 2013, 8:04:27 UTC

I recently updated BOINC to 7.2.28 (x86). This evening I was working on my PC, doing some maintenance, when the system significantly slowed down. I therefore manually suspended the GPU (snoozed). However AstroPulse continued to work (per review of Task Manager) even while I was using the PC, despite having it set to only work when not using the PC. I finally had to close down BOINC in order to finish my work.

I then restarted BOINC and AstroPulse did not restart (I assume because I was using the PC--and GPU set not to start or continue to work while computer in use). No delays in computer's function as of yet, but AstroPulse not yet an active process per Task Manager. Apparently it stays as an active process, once started, even if suspended.

Just concerned and wondering why AstroPulse GPU continues to work when snoozed, while S@H v7 GPU does not.
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Message 1443681 - Posted: 18 Nov 2013, 11:46:59 UTC - in response to Message 1443658.  

That is a known issue for 8400 GS GPUs, they are practically the slowest Cuda GPUs out there, it is thought the app is always in a Critical section on those slow GPUs, and so can't be suspended,
there are later Nvidia OpenCL Astropulse apps in testing with a newer api that may fix this, in the meantime you may wish to deselect Astropulse v6 in your setiathome preferences.

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Message 1443813 - Posted: 18 Nov 2013, 19:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 1443658.  

Thank you very much for the background information. Relieves my mind that this is a known issue. Will keep your advise in mind.
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Message 1451220 - Posted: 7 Dec 2013, 22:04:51 UTC

I started a thread on this in February 2013.
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8215
My thread was prematurely closed, so I can't post updates there.

The "astropulse non-stopping bug was STILL occurring today in Boinc 7.2.28.

I just updated to 7.2.33 and will test it for the bug.

Eric

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Message 1451254 - Posted: 8 Dec 2013, 0:29:05 UTC

Your thread auto closed due to lack of activity - last access was in June of this year.
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Message 1451329 - Posted: 8 Dec 2013, 6:32:28 UTC
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Boinc version 7.2.33 still has the non-stop bug.

I let the pc sit idle for a couple of hours and Boinc started SETI@home. When I returned and tried to use the pc, the machine was slow and chunky, as it has been when astropulse kept running, after it should have stopped.

When I opened up the Boinc manager, I could see one of the SETI@home tasks STILL counting up progress percentage.


I looked in the Process list in Windows Task Manager and saw 3 SETI@home programs running. This time they were not identifying themselves as astropulse. The offending setiathome program had cuda32 in the name. I recall that name from the astropulse entries in the Boinc log. So, it appears that astropulse has been renamed to setiathome...cuda32.exe.


When I manually stopped the setiathome...cuda32.exe process, the machine ran at normal speed again and the Boinc manager showed that the non-stopping process now showed an error message.


Here's the log from this afternoon.
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.33 for windows_intelx86
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Running under account Eric
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8600 GT (driver version 301.42, CUDA version 4.2, compute capability 1.1, 512MB, 469MB available, 57 GFLOPS peak)
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8600 GT (driver version 301.42, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 512MB, 469MB available, 57 GFLOPS peak)
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Host name: amd-quad-xp
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) 9950 Quad-Core Processor [Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 3]
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 popcnt syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Memory: 3.50 GB physical, 3.34 GB virtual
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Disk: 83.83 GB total, 43.30 GB free
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Local time is UTC -6 hours
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Config: don't compute while Audition.exe is running
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Config: don't compute while seamonkey.exe is running
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 4101861; resource share 100
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 24-Feb-2013 13:27:54)
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Reading preferences override file
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Preferences:
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | max memory usage when active: 716.48MB
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | max memory usage when idle: 3224.18MB
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | max disk usage: 1.00GB
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | max CPUs used: 2
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | don't compute while active
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | don't use GPU while active
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25%
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | max download rate: 1024000 bytes/sec
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | max upload rate: 716800 bytes/sec
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
12/7/2013 5:54:20 PM |  | Not using a proxy
12/7/2013 5:54:21 PM |  | Suspending computation - computer is in use


Does anyone know if this has a chance of being fixed?
If not, the solution is to disable astropulse.

Thanks,
Eric
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Message 1451339 - Posted: 8 Dec 2013, 7:12:58 UTC

S@H v7 7.00 Cuda 32 is NOT the same as AstroPulse. An entirely different app. run on your GPU rather than CPU. I suspect earlier in your log you'd see this wu exiting repeatedly, with no results, thus causing your system to overwork. (I've got an old Pentium 4 running XP that has problems with cuda 20s, doing as I mention above. I have to abort these apps.)

I also have the AstroPulse issue where it continues to run after supposedly being suspended. A GPU issue with my old NVIDIA card, explained by Claggy after my original post.

Good luck!
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Message 1451475 - Posted: 8 Dec 2013, 16:24:45 UTC - in response to Message 1451339.  
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OK. It sounds like we have 2 issues now - cuda32 and astropulse?

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Message 1454067 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 2:19:47 UTC - in response to Message 1451475.  

No more problems with slow chunking since I disabled Astropulse and the use of my nvidia 8600GT GPU!

Use CPU
Enforced by version 6.10+ yes
Use ATI GPU
Enforced by version 6.10+ no
Use NVIDIA GPU
Enforced by version 6.10+ no

Run only the selected applications
SETI@home Enhanced: yes
SETI@home v7: yes
AstroPulse v6: no
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