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OzzFan     Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 
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Apple, Microsoft & Linux, none of them are better than the other - each has its own strengths & weaknesses. Agreed. ID: 1511476 ·  |
 ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 
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Apple, Microsoft & Linux, none of them are better than the other - each has its own strengths & weaknesses. WOW! Peace. Is this all shining under the holy glow of FLOSS cooperation?! ;-) IT can be anything we make it! Martin (Special note: The emphasized "wow" is used as a positive exclamation. That has no intention of anything to do with the Marketing of "Windows-on-Windows" (which sounds highly misogynistically strange :-P ) ) See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1511510 · |
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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/05/navy-giving-its-helicopter-drones-a-linux-upgrade/ "Sean Gallagher @ ArsTechnica" wrote: By moving to a Linux platform, the Navy also hopes to save money on support in the long term, making it easier to upgrade hardware. The Fire Scout program is in a bit of a holding pattern right now as Northrop Grumman works on the next version, and the Navy is slowing down its purchasing of the Littoral Combat Ships, ships the Fire Scout was originally supposed to deploy on, so the new TCS software will hopefully allow the Navy to operate other ship-based drones across the fleet. ID: 1513387 · |
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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/linux-gets-fix-for-code-execution-flaw-that-went-unpatched-since-2009/ Seems Microsoft isn't the only one that suffers from code execution flaws, and I suppose no one noticed this one since 2009 because they are not the most targeted platform for hackers. ID: 1515189 · |
Batter Up  Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/linux-gets-fix-for-code-execution-flaw-that-went-unpatched-since-2009/ Military combat computers don't use the Internet so there is an extra layer of security. 
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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/linux-gets-fix-for-code-execution-flaw-that-went-unpatched-since-2009/ That would be an excellent point were we limiting the discussion to those computers not connected to the internet. ;-) ID: 1515217 · |
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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Oh I was still on the Navy switching to Linux from Solaris. Never mind.
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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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Ah, I gotcha. In which case it doesn't really matter what they switch to as far as exploits go. :-) ID: 1515227 · |
Wiggo  Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34767 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 
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Get your needle and thread out again as more patching is required. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2348314/linux-hit-by-gnutls-exploit-follows-heartbleed-model Cheers. ID: 1524542 · |
Sirius B   Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 
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OMG! Are you serious? Linux is flawed? Never needs patching? Wow! "GnuTLS has already been patched this year, after it was discovered that it didn't always recognise fake security certificates, passing them as genuine." No wonder I keep getting spammed :-) ID: 1524568 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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OMG! Are you serious? Linux is flawed? Never needs patching? Wow! Thus squawks the blind crow...! Sheeesh... Read the articles and details? That's a real obscure one discovered precisely because a lot of people are specially looking. After "Heartbleed", the two main encryption systems are being scrutinized like never before... And all for the good. Expect a few more old stale dirty socks to fall out in the wash yet... Meanwhile, dare you imagine the mess and fallout from doing that to such bang-it-together-for-minimum-cost proprietary stuff?... As always mentioned, such headline 'flaws' in essential Linux software really are occasional headline news. All for the sake of being so occasional. And as always, indeed for this latest headlined occasion, all already patched and updated. Took one click, enter password to allow the update and then all done less than 5 seconds later. Meanwhile in part of our world: War on Error Anti-virus pioneer Alan Solomon thinks anti-virus is dead. He uses Linux instead... ... British anti-virus pioneer Dr Alan Solomon is so convinced that AV software no longer works that he gave up using it a “long time ago†and solved his security worries by moving from Windows to Linux, the iconic figure has said in a blog. John McAfee rubbishing the software that still carries his name was one thing but Solomon’s more clinical disassembly of an industry he helped create in the 1990s... ... “I stopped using an antivirus a long time ago, because I couldn't see how it could work in a world where you would need daily updates, which means that each update is tested for ... how long? Not very long, obviously. Because these days, we're looking at around 100,000 new malware samples PER DAY. Or 200,000, depending on who you talk to.†In the AV industry’s early days in the late 1980s, viruses appeared so infrequently that he’d had telephone conversations with other experts when no new samples appeared for two months... ... “And then I thought, I won't reinstall Windows, I'll go 100% Linux. And I did, and it worked, and I haven't had any trouble since then.†So Symantec’s Brian Dye has a point when he says anti-virus is “deadâ€, it’s just that industry insiders realised this a long time ago... I guess 'proprietary' no longer makes the news for the sake of there would be no room for any other news! IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1524900 · |
Bernie Vine  Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328
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What is the point of writing virus software for an operating system that has around 2% penetration. I am not saying windows is better,but if you are a virus/malware creator you are surely going to go for the OS that has the greatest chance of success apparently Windows in all forms accounts for 90% of the OS market. So if you send a malicious e-mail to someone, there is a 90% chance it will end up on a Windows PC. Android as the most popular mobile OS is stating to see virus and malware attacks. I agree that the way Linux is constructed makes it more difficult for a virus or malware to infect a Linux PC, but reading articles on Linux websites they urge caution and say that Linux users should not be blasé. Never say never. ID: 1525088 · |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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OMG! Are you serious? Linux is flawed? Never needs patching? Wow! Yep, the Linux crow is still squawking! A serious flaw forced that scrutiny! So no flaws in Linux then? ID: 1525209 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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... So no flaws...? So... Still trying your impossible absolutism? So... Who gives the fewer flaws and the faster response to fixing any flaws? Some secretive proprietary elephant who hire peanut butter fed monkeys? Or someone passionate to do a good job well and for far better ethics than monopolizing the Market? Note that the whole thing about FLOSS is that the code is freely open to be scrutinized and fixed. We are actively and rapidly seeing that. Meanwhile, the many thousands of new exploits and malware for certain proprietary systems continue the flood unabated, still, after many years. We just do not see anything like that for FLOSS. (We have Android becoming ever more compromised by Marketing, but even there and despite large numbers of devices, we have not seen anything of the internet stopping silliness seen for some of the big infestations of Microsoft over the years.) IT is what we make it, Martin All my own mere personal opinion as always ;-) See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1525258 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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A few recent snippets for IT fun: Microsoft Previews PowerShell Desired State Configuration for Linux ... DSC for Linux opens the way for PowerShell users to transfer their scripting skills used on Windows machines to Linux-based ones. Version 1.0.0 of the community test preview can be downloaded from GitHub... ... The experience of using DSC for Linux is said by Microsoft to be "consistent" with that of using the Windows version. A walkthrough showing how to add DSC for Linux to a CentOS 6 Linux machine is described in this Microsoft blog post. In the cloud, Linux will win the OS war ... installed Fedora on an old Hewlett Packard laptop with no hiccups, no extra information and no manual partitioning. Linux, you’ve come a long way, baby! After the install, using the operating system has been fast and intuitive with the Gnome Desktop performing just as well as Windows or MacOS. A recent article in Fortune magazine entitled “The Dawn of the Chrome Age†highlights the success of the Linux-based OS in the low-cost laptop market. According to the article, “Over the holidays in 2013, two Chromebook models were the No.1 and No.3 bestselling laptops on Amazon.com, and they’re being adopted in schools and business around the world.†Simply put, Chrome OS represents Web apps on top of Linux, and given that the Web has become the leading application development platform – this is significant. There are other marquee examples of Linux’s ascendency... ... So, just as the Web has won the platform war for applications, Linux will win for operating systems. For applications, you cannot beat the zero-install and zero-upgrade advantages of the Web. And for operating systems, you cannot beat Linux for high reliability at a low cost. As pundits have long predicted, given a good Web browser, it does not matter what desktop operating system you run beneath it... Meet VoCore, the smallest Linux computer yet ... meet VoCore, which is quite possibly one of the smallest Linux computers ever made. The tiny coin-sized board is kitted with 32MB SDRAM, 8MB SPI flash memory and a system-on-chip clocked at 360MHz. It features no video-out or GPU, so don’t expect to turn it into a retro-gaming station or home theatre PC. Although sluggish compared to a Raspberry Pi, versatility, portability and low wattage is the VoCore’s real aim. But its secret weapon is its 10/100M Ethernet, USB and 802.11n Wifi support... AsiaRF, Tiny Linux Mini PC Supports Both Wifi And Ethernet Anyone looking for an extraordinarily small Linux mini PC might be interested in the new AsiaRF Linux mini PC which has this week launched over on the Indiegogo... ...a low-cost embedded Linux mini PC which supports both wireless and Ethernet connectivity. The tiny AsiaRF Linux mini PC is priced at just $15 and is equipped with a low heat AWM002. Which is a module based on the Ralink RT5350 with 32MB of RAM and 8MB of flash, with Ethernet and 802.11N support included in the tiny package. Its creators explain a little more... With the power of Linux to run on anything from your ARM-controlled toaster and all the way up to the world's top supercomputers, who needs to be shackled by proprietary restrictions telling you what you can't do?! Can those small device plus the power of WiFi and the cloud beat such as Google Glass at their own game?... Then again... Note how Google (for good or evil) is nearly unbeatable all by the power of Linux... Is Microsoft now buying into that action (for good or evil)?... IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1525260 · |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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... So no flaws...? No not absolutism, just pointing out the errors of Linux statements. For years Microsoft/Apple users had to put up with the guffaws that Linux was not flawed or hackable... ...regardless of how fast they get patched/fixed/recoded, Linux is Not & Never will be an absolute perfect operating system. The quicker Linux geeks realise this, the better in that many O/S forums will be civilised! ID: 1525262 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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...regardless of how fast they get patched/fixed/recoded, Linux is Not & Never will be an absolute perfect operating system. ... It doesn't need to be. What Linux is is something that is much more resilient and responsive by design than certain other systems that are instead designed with a primary emphasis on Marketing aspects... Which do you prefer and think is better? Design for marketing and enslaving users? Or design for, and to give freedom to, the users? It is all in the "Experience"... IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1525269 · |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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...regardless of how fast they get patched/fixed/recoded, Linux is Not & Never will be an absolute perfect operating system. ... You keep quoting the "Users". you have been told this constantly... ...until Linux becomes as easy to use as Apple/Microsoft software, "Users" will continue to see Linux as belonging to "basement geeks"... ...so wouldn't it be much better for "Linux professionals" such as yourself to act like Jehovah's Witnesses & go out there & preach & teach to those very users? If you did that instead of evangelising on a distributed computing project where many use Microsoft to install, set & forget Seti & others who use whatever operating system they wish to run the software & applications of their choice, Linux just might capture a larger share of the market. Even Meerkats know how to compare! With what you have been spouting for the past several years, how is it that you're not the UK's leading spokesman for Linux? From What I see, you would make an excellent one! ID: 1525273 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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...until Linux becomes as easy to use as Apple/Microsoft software, "Users" will continue to see Linux as belonging to "basement geeks"... For those that can overcome the massive Marketing machine of the big proprietary vendors, there is incredible freedom to be easily enjoyed. There is much to be gained simply by not sacrificing yourself and your friends to a ridiculous EULA... This shows just a little of what people do with their Linux desktops. Distrowatch have A Guide to Choosing a Distribution From that, my recommendation for a first-time look is to try Magiea, or Ubuntu ('Mac-like'), or Kubuntu ('Sort of Win7-like'). Don't worry about the unfamiliar names, they are all "point and click" as was first developed back in the 1970s and as used by all of Apple, Microsoft, Google and Linux and others alike since... There is always the hurdle of installing any Operating System. At least with Linux that is much faster than for such as Windows in that there is no Marketing silliness to intrusively "get to know you" for Marketing purposes. I'm still fuming from the cheek from a recent episode with a certain proprietary system: ...Ready to go! Thanks for verifying ---@---.co.uk. You can now get back to what you were doing... The condescending insult of it! And money was paid to experience that insult!! So... Thankfully you do not suffer that sort of thing in the FLOSS Linux world. Indeed, there isn't any need for any such "license verification" silliness... See the very healthy magazines such as Linux Format and Linux Voice for all things popular Linux. There's even a "Build your own PC article" in the LXF185 issue. And there is the (rather dry) Wikipedia view of Linux. The rest is up to you and your local Linux group! Happy fun freedom! IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1526109 · |
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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FLOSS flies through space to rescue an old venerable probe for some new manoeuvres... After decades of silence, a vintage spacecraft says hello to Earth A group of space enthusiasts and vintage hardware experts walk into a radio observatory. They contact a 36-year-old spacecraft to ask how it’s doing... It’s no joke — that’s the latest news coming from the ISEE-3 Reboot Project, a crowdfunded effort to repurpose NASA’s International Sun-Earth Explorer (ISEE-3), launched in 1978... ... Could ISEE be contacted? The initial response from NASA was no — the original hardware required to communicate with the spacecraft was long gone, and it would be too expensive to rebuild the components from scratch... ... the original hardware used to contact ISEE-3 was thrown out decades ago ... They wouldn’t be able to spend the millions NASA was quoting to rebuild original hardware from scratch, so they turned to an alternative: Software Defined Radio (SDR). ... small SDR boxes are often “orders of magnitude†cheaper than the original hardware they replace. The devices take a raw radio signal and feed it to a connected computer. Using a free, open-source software package called GNU Radio, any run-of-the-mill computer can interpret the signal and decode it according to specifications the user enters. Whereas the interpretation of ISEE's radio signals used to be done using bulky hardware, it can now be achieved virtually... Rather a fun and extreme example of rather than "pigs might fly", we have Gnu-in-space! All by the power of GNU and FLOSS freedom to develop ;-) IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1526113 · |
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