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Message 1488088 - Posted: 12 Mar 2014, 22:22:09 UTC - in response to Message 1488076.  

A Chinese satellite may have found crash site.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-crash-site-found-by-chinese-satellite/story-fnizu68q-1226853195656

Now we just have to wait and see if it's confirmed.

Also news just coming through that an American company has shifted 3 of its satellites to take images of the 2 search areas and put on the web so that the public can try to spot the wreckage (no link for this 1 yet).

Cheers.

That looks promising for finding the wreckage. It does not look promising for finding survivors.


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Message 1488146 - Posted: 12 Mar 2014, 23:37:21 UTC - in response to Message 1488088.  

A Chinese satellite may have found crash site.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-crash-site-found-by-chinese-satellite/story-fnizu68q-1226853195656

Now we just have to wait and see if it's confirmed.

Also news just coming through that an American company has shifted 3 of its satellites to take images of the 2 search areas and put on the web so that the public can try to spot the wreckage (no link for this 1 yet).

Cheers.

That looks promising for finding the wreckage. It does not look promising for finding survivors.


China had the pictures for days, why release them now?? It has been said that China has a secret satellite.

I pray for each and every victim, and their families.
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Message 1488897 - Posted: 14 Mar 2014, 18:02:59 UTC

All major US networks are reporting that the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer USS Kidd has been detached from its Carrier Strike Group and sent to the Indian Ocean west of Malaysia to help search. While many official sources are down-playing the reports of continuing data transmissions from the plane's engines after the transponders were shut off, the area the US warship is headed for gives credence to the notion that the plane did not go down near its intended flight path. The word "piracy" has also been used in several reports I saw.
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Message 1489201 - Posted: 15 Mar 2014, 5:59:43 UTC

A lot of people are calling in to radio shows, wondering how a plane could be hijacked in this day and age without any of the many passengers who must have cell phones calling someone to say what's going on. I even heard an answer to this: that the hijacker(s) knocked them all out by turning off the oxygen.

I have a much simpler answer. Unless I'm a LOT farther out of the techno-loop than I think I am, there's no cell service over the open ocean!

Am I wrong to think that if the plane was far enough from land to be in a gap in civil ATC, it was also waaaaaaay out of range of the nearest cell tower?
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Message 1489208 - Posted: 15 Mar 2014, 6:20:45 UTC - in response to Message 1489201.  

A lot of people are calling in to radio shows, wondering how a plane could be hijacked in this day and age without any of the many passengers who must have cell phones calling someone to say what's going on. I even heard an answer to this: that the hijacker(s) knocked them all out by turning off the oxygen.

I doubt that caller knew what he was talking about. Once the passenger cabin is pressurized for altitude, there is only a slow bleed of oxygen to maintain safe breathing levels. Turning that off would still take time for the oxygen to drop to dangerous levels. Easier to put on an oxygen mask and depressurize the cabin - put everybody to sleep real quick.

I have a much simpler answer. Unless I'm a LOT farther out of the techno-loop than I think I am, there's no cell service over the open ocean!

Am I wrong to think that if the plane was far enough from land to be in a gap in civil ATC, it was also waaaaaaay out of range of the nearest cell tower?

Probably true for most cell phones. There are international satelite-based cell phone systems, but I doubt most folks could afford the costs.

More reports of military radars tracking the plane flying west over Malaysia and towards the Indian Ocean. They are also trying to use the engine data transmissions to get a rough fligth path/position of the aircraft.
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Message 1489209 - Posted: 15 Mar 2014, 6:27:13 UTC - in response to Message 1489208.  

A lot of people are calling in to radio shows, wondering how a plane could be hijacked in this day and age without any of the many passengers who must have cell phones calling someone to say what's going on. I even heard an answer to this: that the hijacker(s) knocked them all out by turning off the oxygen.

I doubt that caller knew what he was talking about. Once the passenger cabin is pressurized for altitude, there is only a slow bleed of oxygen to maintain safe breathing levels. Turning that off would still take time for the oxygen to drop to dangerous levels. Easier to put on an oxygen mask and depressurize the cabin - put everybody to sleep real quick.

I thought that idea was particularly stupid when I heard it.

I have a much simpler answer. Unless I'm a LOT farther out of the techno-loop than I think I am, there's no cell service over the open ocean!

Am I wrong to think that if the plane was far enough from land to be in a gap in civil ATC, it was also waaaaaaay out of range of the nearest cell tower?

Probably true for most cell phones. There are international satelite-based cell phone systems, but I doubt most folks could afford the costs.

More reports of military radars tracking the plane flying west over Malaysia and towards the Indian Ocean. They are also trying to use the engine data transmissions to get a rough fligth path/position of the aircraft.

I thought of that, but what are the odds that someone had one? Pretty slim, I'd have to think.
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Message 1489645 - Posted: 16 Mar 2014, 6:10:09 UTC - in response to Message 1489337.  
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Message 1490195 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 18:45:03 UTC - in response to Message 1489645.  

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Sorry, posts have been moved back to Travelling in Safety.
I did not state that I was consolidated the posts.

Many of you do not like to post in politics.

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Message 1490198 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 18:46:50 UTC - in response to Message 1490195.  

That may be so, but both threads are now looking like pig's dinners!
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