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Message 1374900 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 18:18:10 UTC

Just saw this and thought I would throw it out there.

How to find ET with infrared light
The revolutionary method is described by four of the team's astronomers in the June 2013 issue of Astronomy magazine. Rather than looking for radio waves, the team suggests searching for the heat signatures of nearby planets, which requires a giant telescope that could detect infrared radiation directly from an exoplanet, thus revealing the presence of a civilization.
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Message 1374916 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 19:55:07 UTC - in response to Message 1374900.  

Did they explain how they would finds a slightly warmer planet so close to a really hot star? The angular distance between a planet and its star, at interstellar distances, is, for all practical purposes, zero.

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Message 1375127 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 5:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 1374929.  
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Shouldn't this thread and posts be in Seti Science?



Didn't realized it was science:)
I sort of agree with Bill. To be in the goldie locks zone the background heat from the sun would, IMHO mask the heat from civilization. But if the Mods want to move it, I would not object.
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Message 1375131 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 6:07:30 UTC

I wonder why these ideas come out .

OK Glen what am I going on about simple why would Aliens use heat , light or radio waves to send a signal ?

I don't think they would , why the light speed is to slow , so is radio .

Then what would they use ?

There is only one way that you can send a signal across the Cosmos instantly
and quietly .

....... ............

but what would a dummy like me know
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Message 1375284 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 11:03:52 UTC - in response to Message 1375191.  

There is only one way that you can send a signal across the Cosmos instantly and quietly .


It's those voices again doctor, the voices in my head, they keep telling me to sell all my possessions and stand on top of that hill and await salvation .....




NO Chris but you did get the idea for the smart ones to figure it out if there smarter than me

Seeing as I got a IM saying that I am dumd , well that was the jist of the IM even if the person did not come out and say that directly
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Message 1375309 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 12:16:03 UTC - in response to Message 1375131.  

I wonder why these ideas come out .

OK Glen what am I going on about simple why would Aliens use heat , light or radio waves to send a signal ?

I don't think they would , why the light speed is to slow , so is radio .

Then what would they use ?

There is only one way that you can send a signal across the Cosmos instantly
and quietly .

....... ............

but what would a dummy like me know



A clue . The dots are letters that spell 2 words and they are correctly spelt both words have the letter "t" at least once
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Message 1375326 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 12:49:07 UTC - in response to Message 1375309.  

I wonder why these ideas come out .

OK Glen what am I going on about simple why would Aliens use heat , light or radio waves to send a signal ?

I don't think they would , why the light speed is to slow , so is radio .

Then what would they use ?

There is only one way that you can send a signal across the Cosmos instantly
and quietly .

....... ............

but what would a dummy like me know



A clue . The dots are letters that spell 2 words and they are correctly spelt both words have the letter "t" at least once


They share the letters n, m and a too.
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Message 1375336 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 13:06:49 UTC - in response to Message 1375326.  

I wonder why these ideas come out .

OK Glen what am I going on about simple why would Aliens use heat , light or radio waves to send a signal ?

I don't think they would , why the light speed is to slow , so is radio .

Then what would they use ?

There is only one way that you can send a signal across the Cosmos instantly
and quietly .

....... ............

but what would a dummy like me know



A clue . The dots are letters that spell 2 words and they are correctly spelt both words have the letter "t" at least once


They share the letters n, m and a too.



yes
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Message 1375338 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 13:07:07 UTC - in response to Message 1375329.  

I assume you are talking telepathy?



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Message 1375343 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 13:15:18 UTC

Same place string theory comes from.

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Message 1375344 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 13:19:48 UTC - in response to Message 1375343.  

Same place string theory comes from.



well let's say your on the right track but you have to type both words or you still may get it wrong
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Message 1375348 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 13:29:16 UTC

ok Carlos i'll give it to you . You got it right seeing as the picture is correct ........hope not or we are wasting our time but would explain why the Cosmos is so quiet , you wouldn't want the bad Alien's knowing you where there and there has to some bad ones out there somewhere
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Message 1375366 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 13:49:11 UTC - in response to Message 1375355.  

All existence is a theory. I can never claim that my understanding of anything is identical to your understanding of the same subject.

We make do by finding the theories that serve a purpose. Engineers are famous for using theories (like Engineer's Bending) that we know are not accurate, but serve a purpose. I suspect physicists are similar, they just won't admit it. ;)

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Message 1375449 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 16:40:29 UTC

Hmmmmm...
I detect a bit of heat being sent in my general direction.
Justly so, I might add.

PM of apology sent to the offended party.

Meow.
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Message 1375697 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 2:19:27 UTC - in response to Message 1375449.  

Hmmmmm...
I detect a bit of heat being sent in my general direction.
Justly so, I might add.

PM of apology sent to the offended party.

Meow.


No prob mate got reply all sweet I understand more than most got 1 friend i'm helping with your type of prob . I mite get shits for a day or too but I always get over it so relax all good
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Message 1375698 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 2:21:13 UTC - in response to Message 1375697.  

Hmmmmm...
I detect a bit of heat being sent in my general direction.
Justly so, I might add.

PM of apology sent to the offended party.

Meow.


No prob mate got reply all sweet I understand more than most got 1 friend i'm helping with your type of prob . I mite get shits for a day or too but I always get over it so relax all good

Thank you, Glenn.
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Message 1375699 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 2:24:54 UTC - in response to Message 1375355.  

In physics, string theory is a theoretical framework in which the point-like particles of particle physics are replaced by one-dimensional objects called strings. In string theory, the different types of observed elementary particles arise from the different quantum states of these strings. In addition to the types of particles postulated by the standard model of particle physics, string theory naturally incorporates gravity, and is therefore a candidate for a theory of everything, a self-contained mathematical model that describes all fundamental forces and forms of matter.


Note the words in bold .....


I was talking about Quantum Entanglement which I understand there are experiments right now to perfect communication using this , if it works it will explain why we don't here et

And why Carlos got it right entangled pussy with ball of string Quantum Entanglement not Quantum String Theroy
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Message 1375701 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 2:30:19 UTC - in response to Message 1375699.  
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I knew a little about Quantum String Theory, but Quantum Entanglement is a new one on me. Gonna have to do some reading this summer.

The things we learn here ........ (8{)
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Message 1375838 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 8:28:47 UTC - in response to Message 1375832.  

There are two ways to conduct science. Work out a theory first and then try to prove it e.g. the LHC and the Higgs, or observe something first then try to develop a theory to explain it, as in this quantum stuff.


HEHEHE
I hope it don't work or we are in trouble here at seti no point looking for ET if they are not transmitting anything on normal radio waves
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Message 1375907 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 12:19:39 UTC - in response to Message 1375857.  

The point is Glenn that firstly, no one knows for sure if there are any ET. And secondly if there are, what they might be using for communication. And thirdly, given all that, we don't know whether our instrumentation is good enough to detect anything anyway, even if we are looking in the right direction.

We base it all on probability and the Drake equation and a bit of pot luck! If they are there and want to be found, we have a good enough chance as any to find them. At least we are trying :-)



Yes I understand where your coming from . I suspect thou that if ET is there and more likely he is and we can perfect Quantum Entanglement to use as communication then that closes the door on trying to find ET . After all if only 150yrs after the industrial revolution started we can do it then a smart ET would also have done the same thing and that would mean appox only 100 years time frame that any ET will transmit a signal before there science will let them do the same thing , math is math weather you come from Earth or x986c on the other side of the universe .That's why I said I hope they can't do it for at least another 200yrs then me mite have a chance to hear ET even if we can't talk to them . There is just not enough stars close enough in 100yrs but 300yrs possible at least 1 star will have something that's 300 light years .
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