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Message 1352837 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 14:03:24 UTC - in response to Message 1352686.

The most likely first step of any case would be a "take down" request from the copyright holder - we've had one very recently.{/quote]
Which should be routed first to the Regents so their lawyer can decide if it should be tossed in the trash.

[quote]Failure to comply with this request would probably then escalate to letter from their lawyer requesting the material to be "taken down" or legal action would be taken (each getting more strongly worded). Finally the "day in court", and all that entails, with appeals, counter appeals and lawyers running up costs on both sides.

Or a reply sent to the other side telling them to shut up or we peruse action against you for false and malicious claims that Seti is infringing, when it isn't.

Obviously it makes sense not to get into the situation where the lawyers get involved, and "take down" the material, and other similar material on receipt of the first "take down" request.

And unlike others who have run to "Wiki" or "Google" for their guidance mine has come from a lawyer.

Guess you missed that it wasn't Google, but the published opinion of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals I went to.

When I was pursuing someone for breach of copyright on my own material. I am glad to say that the first letter got the desired result, at which time the legal advise had only cost me a decent meal, not the thousands of pounds a court case would have.

England has much more liberal laws concerning copyright than the USA. Legal advice given in England is not necessarily applicable to the USA.

If you had bothered to read the opinion of the court, you would have seen where the plaintiff argued that a link was infringement, the court repudiated that claim, and quite properly looked at the data returned from the defendants server and found no photo was sent.

You can continue to be bullied or you can get rid of the [ img ] bcc tag because essentially everything that can be put there is copyrighted. Heck using your thought process having a functional [ img ] tag is operating Napster! Or you can grow a spine and send back the legal cite and ignore.

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Message 1352847 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 14:18:29 UTC - in response to Message 1352837.

The most likely first step of any case would be a "take down" request from the copyright holder - we've had one very recently.{/quote]
Which should be routed first to the Regents so their lawyer can decide if it should be tossed in the trash.

[quote]Failure to comply with this request would probably then escalate to letter from their lawyer requesting the material to be "taken down" or legal action would be taken (each getting more strongly worded). Finally the "day in court", and all that entails, with appeals, counter appeals and lawyers running up costs on both sides.

Or a reply sent to the other side telling them to shut up or we peruse action against you for false and malicious claims that Seti is infringing, when it isn't.

Obviously it makes sense not to get into the situation where the lawyers get involved, and "take down" the material, and other similar material on receipt of the first "take down" request.

And unlike others who have run to "Wiki" or "Google" for their guidance mine has come from a lawyer.

Guess you missed that it wasn't Google, but the published opinion of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals I went to.

When I was pursuing someone for breach of copyright on my own material. I am glad to say that the first letter got the desired result, at which time the legal advise had only cost me a decent meal, not the thousands of pounds a court case would have.

England has much more liberal laws concerning copyright than the USA. Legal advice given in England is not necessarily applicable to the USA.

If you had bothered to read the opinion of the court, you would have seen where the plaintiff argued that a link was infringement, the court repudiated that claim, and quite properly looked at the data returned from the defendants server and found no photo was sent.

You can continue to be bullied or you can get rid of the [ img ] bcc tag because essentially everything that can be put there is copyrighted. Heck using your thought process having a functional [ img ] tag is operating Napster! Or you can grow a spine and send back the legal cite and ignore.

Well Gary Im going to suggest to UC Berkely that they fire their legal staff and just hire you to google and wikipedia all of the legal problems they may have in the future. Im sure that everything on the internet has to be true.
Just think of the money they could save by quoting a wiki legal link right back at them
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Message 1352851 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 14:21:39 UTC

Gentlemen ........ now now, we only have 40 minutes to go before a 3 day break :-)

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Message 1352854 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 14:24:31 UTC

Legal advice given in England is not necessarily applicable to the USA.


Does the inverse not also apply.
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Message 1352870 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 14:55:05 UTC - in response to Message 1352847.

I thought we were waiting for the legal staff to give an opinion? Or have the mods not told the truth?

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Message 1352899 - Posted: 3 Apr 2013, 19:26:16 UTC

We should have had a 6 day break ....... ;-(

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Message 1353159 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 6:54:59 UTC - in response to Message 1352188.

I do apoligise for the email/PM bomb some of you will be geting,
hiding the whole thread is the quickest way,
hiding each photo individualy would have taken days to do and been much worse than it is.



I was wondering where all those pm's came from...;)
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Message 1354495 - Posted: 7 Apr 2013, 21:25:21 UTC
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In the Beet's Thread, Michael Roberts references Shakespeare. It seems to me that there are so many quotes that fit this picture...




"If you prick us do we not bleed?"

"What a piece of work is a man"

"That it should come to this!"

"In my mind's eye"

"I will speak daggers to her, but use none"

"Can one desire too much of a good thing?"

"True is it that we have seen better days"

"O that I were a glove upon that hand, that I might touch that cheek!"

"This is the short and the long of it"

"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt"

"The better part of valour is discretion"

"A man can die but once"

"Small things make base men proud"

"We have seen better days"

"Friends, Romans, Countrymen... lend me your ears"

"Men at some time are masters of their fates"

"There 's daggers in men's smiles"

"What 's done is done"

"Fair is foul, and foul is fair"

"Is this a dagger which I see before me, The handle toward my hand?"

"This above all: to thine own self be true"

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Message 1354556 - Posted: 8 Apr 2013, 4:25:57 UTC

I don't like the pic, but *1 on tbe rest.
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Message 1354581 - Posted: 8 Apr 2013, 6:38:06 UTC

OMG! That must've hurted...
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Message 1354687 - Posted: 8 Apr 2013, 15:39:01 UTC

Probably smarts a bit I grant you .....

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Message 1354938 - Posted: 9 Apr 2013, 7:41:24 UTC - in response to Message 1354581.

OMG! That must've hurted...

I am sure it did JULIE
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Message 1355546 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 5:04:41 UTC

Re: Mystery Kitchen Tool three

Chris are you looking for a specific name, when actually there isn't one?

Try google images for pasty/pastie/pastry mold.

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Message 1355602 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 11:40:32 UTC

The item does appear to be on the images that I found using WK's suggestion. The generic name for the item is of course a pasty, but the particular one I was looking for was an Empanada maker, which is what the manufacturer calls it.

This has dragged on for too long now so I an declaring WK the winner, as he was the first one to provide a direct source to an suitable image.

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Message 1355629 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 12:24:34 UTC

Interesting. I never thought of the Empanada as a pasty, but if I look up the definition of one and a standard empanada recipie you can probably class empanadas as such. But I doubt british pasties contain a minced meat/onion/condiments mixture topped up with an olive, a few raisins and a slice of hard boild egg :D
And using a crimping tool is for sissies.
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Message 1355655 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 13:33:56 UTC

And using a crimping tool is for sissies.


ROTFLMAO! Better that than Grannies unwashed thumbprint round the edge of the steak & kidney pie :-))

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Message 1355657 - Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 13:36:52 UTC - in response to Message 1355655.

And using a crimping tool is for sissies.


ROTFLMAO! Better that than Grannies unwashed thumbprint round the edge of the steak & kidney pie :-))


Hmmmm...
I am an electrician.
And I use a crimping tool every day I work to make a living.


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Message 1355987 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 5:54:01 UTC - in response to Message 1355657.
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And using a crimping tool is for sissies.


ROTFLMAO! Better that than Grannies unwashed thumbprint round the edge of the steak & kidney pie :-))


Hmmmm...
I am an electrician.
And I use a crimping tool every day I work to make a living.


Mark once again off topic, unless you use this in your Kitchen.
Not saying you don't.
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Message 1355991 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 5:58:06 UTC - in response to Message 1355655.

And using a crimping tool is for sissies.


ROTFLMAO! Better that than Grannies unwashed thumbprint round the edge of the steak & kidney pie :-))


First off Granny was clean. Next you are still here and your Dad is close to 100 yrs old. She sure did something right:)
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Message 1356025 - Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 9:48:57 UTC - in response to Message 1355987.

And using a crimping tool is for sissies.


ROTFLMAO! Better that than Grannies unwashed thumbprint round the edge of the steak & kidney pie :-))


Hmmmm...
I am an electrician.
And I use a crimping tool every day I work to make a living.


Mark once again off topic, unless you use this in your Kitchen.
Not saying you don't.



Anythings possible with Mark...;)
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