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Message 1307920 - Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 22:31:39 UTC - in response to Message 1307864.

[/quote]If you want to help Seti along for the time being why don't you run Beta ? You'll still be crunching signals and it's for the good of the future of this system...

Where does one find this Beta?
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Message 1307929 - Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 22:56:03 UTC - in response to Message 1307920.

Where does one find this Beta?


Here: SETI@home/AstroPulse Beta

You'll have to add this project using BOINC Manager.

<Tools> <Add project or account manager...>
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Message 1307932 - Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 22:57:50 UTC

If we switch to Seti Beta the same problem will not apears?
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Message 1307933 - Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 23:00:10 UTC

So how long before cpompleted work units that are on my system will get transferred back to SETI? I've got 21 showing waiting to report, and nothing to do...


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Message 1307947 - Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 23:25:50 UTC - in response to Message 1307932.

If we switch to Seti Beta the same problem will not apears?


Quite probably; at the moment I can't report or obtain new work at SETI Beta.

If you applied all of your computing resources there, Juan, there'd be scant left for the rest of us! ;)
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Message 1307953 - Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 23:39:11 UTC - in response to Message 1307947.

If we switch to Seti Beta the same problem will not apears?


Quite probably; at the moment I can't report or obtain new work at SETI Beta.

If you applied all of your computing resources there, Juan, there'd be scant left for the rest of us! ;)

Thanks for the honest and clear answer, thats exactly what i belive that could happend, i realy don´t want to leave trouble to anybody.

Most of the people could not belive but i realy just want to participate in the finding ET quest, one of my children dream, an see an oportunity to do that on SETI.

I know for some, i have a lot of resources avaiable because i could use my company computers (actualy we have a lot more hosts that i could put to crunch but i need to keep the power bill not to high), all the time i was thinking that was good for the project.
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Message 1307960 - Posted: 19 Nov 2012, 23:58:47 UTC - in response to Message 1307932.

If we switch to Seti Beta the same problem will not apears?

Seti beta is down completely so time to switch off a go to bed!!
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Message 1307996 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 2:01:55 UTC - in response to Message 1307932.

If we switch to Seti Beta the same problem will not apears?

If everyone did, yes. But only a small percent even read these forums. Even less will switch. So probably not.

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Message 1308035 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 7:42:01 UTC

Thanks for the info.
Perhaps you should consider the new NVIDIA. I have an hour in 1800 WU'S errors produced. the load on the server, before I noticed it. Only an optimized client that has solved probelm.
How many user build one with Kepler GPU architecture. Who do not know it and load the server with many error-wu's.
excuse my english!
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Message 1308084 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 12:42:46 UTC
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And the wonder happend today, its running again en downloding
and crunch again..Great Job Eric;) I have 100 task and more and XP_Freak
his guf is full loaded, but he has more programs running. I'll turn on
the work again while he is at work;)
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Message 1308085 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 12:56:38 UTC - in response to Message 1307567.

There might be a simpler solution: Deadline of AP units is approx. 14 days whereas MUs deadline is some 45 days. Cut MU deadline by half and you'll have less units "in the air" and less units pending in your database.
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Message 1308087 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 13:01:57 UTC - in response to Message 1307947.

In this case it is not going to help. It usually goes down the same time as SETI. Even if you have work from SETI beta it would cut your work and processing for regular SETI in half.
Depending on your settings.
So the result to you having work would be the same.
However they are many other worthwhile BOINC projects.
You can set to run when you have no work from SETI.
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Message 1308092 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 13:28:53 UTC
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People from the lab:

For the last time please...try... you have nothing to loose... and a lot to win... if works...

Take your time, the entire process will take few hours or days...

- Turn the MB-Spliter ON, Only at LANDO

- After that make the same with the AP-Spliters , Only an LANDO Again!

- Wait to everything stabilizes, maybe an hour or two... go for a coffe, do another thing, what ever, just wait, if after that all woks ok go to the next step.

- Start ONE Spliter on Synergy, ONLY ONE at a time, you choose AP or MB but only ONE each time...

- Wait to everything stabilizes, maybe an hour or two... go for a coffe, do another thing, what ever, just wait, if after that all woks ok go to the next step.

- Repeat until...

At some moment the problem will be appears, then fall back (turn off the last splitter), and leave all working at that treshold...

If works, Everybody will receive work (probabily less WU will be generating DL/UL but few is better than no one), AP & MB, be happy and give some time to thinkg about and do other more productive tasks...

If no, nothing is loose, we will still out of work...

Then with all in mind, waiting for MATT´s returns... to help finaly fix the problem.
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Message 1308102 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 14:13:40 UTC - in response to Message 1307805.

So we are going to be having this same problem for months eh!!!.

Wow, at least we have an explanation but I am not sure I like the answers.
Couple months of this an I will be ready for the hospital... LOONEY BIN

Michael Miles

If this is really going to do that to you, you're giving it entirely too much importance. This is a volunteer scientific project. Temporarily not being able to do it, or at least not do it at your full capacity, is not going to mean the end of the world* and it is not going to hurt you in any way. If it is, you need to rearrange your life's priorities.

*Unless the slowdown means we don't process the warning of a Romulan or Dalek invasion in time to do something about it. ;-)

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Message 1308136 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 16:35:53 UTC
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I should be the last guy to say this because of my previous posts, but...

Let's all have some patience. Be it days, weeks or months.

There are other projects.
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Message 1308161 - Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 22:14:38 UTC - in response to Message 1308136.

I should be the last guy to say this because of my previous posts, but...

Let's all have some patience. Be it days, weeks or months.

There are other projects.


I agree seti is what is called pure research, no money goal at the end.
The government used to pay for this kind of research and this kind of research is at the bases of almost every thing we take for granted today. So when the grand children ask what it was like before alien contact hopefully you will be able to tell them that you held party's or garage sales or saved aluminium cans to help fund seti. Because the next time you eat fast food the restaurant probably spent more on salaries then seti had for budget last year. And yes it is a pain when seti goes down but more donations could fix a lot of that.

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Message 1308503 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 20:53:25 UTC
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As an admin, I can imagine what that means.
Hope you don't work too many night shifts.
DBMSs have teier natural limits and database-design can do magic to "overcome" or "expand" those limits ;-)
Good luck and I keep my fingers crossed :-)
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Message 1308509 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 21:24:31 UTC

As someone that doesn't follow what happens at the back end. Could someone describe what the issue is please. Thanks.
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Message 1308539 - Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 22:58:59 UTC - in response to Message 1308509.
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Colin the system is mixt up a litle and they are busy to fix it.
It could take a week or weeks to let the system run normally,
becaus of this we recieve 100 task a time, so they try to keep
the whole system running, only this time slowly.
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Message 1308603 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 3:46:38 UTC

I am concerned about the approach of increasing the size of WU. This is especially true for GPU WU since once a GPU Task is running it hold on to the processor until it is complete. I use to run both SETI and Einstein GPU Tasks but opted out of Einstein because the size of the WU was so large it made doing any kind of cooperative processing a non-starter.

Until Task switching for the GPU gets sorted out the size of GPU WU needs to stay relatively short (less than 1 or 2 hours GPU time).
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