5: Big Bang Looming.......


log in

Advanced search

Message boards : Politics : 5: Big Bang Looming.......

Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 . . . 9 · Next
Author Message
Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1309136 - Posted: 23 Nov 2012, 7:23:21 UTC

EU budget deal unlikely, says Ms Merkel

One thing is stilll bothering me about all this: - "She has previously said that another summit may be necessary early next year if no deal can be reached now."

Just what is going to change that dramatically within the next 8 weeks?

Small storm in a large teacup?

"so the numbers don't really add up." & they never will, not until the auditors can sign off the accounts, which after 18 years of being unable to do so, will make even a leprechaun stand tall & ask questions!

EU's new Witchfinder General
____________

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1309558 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 1:41:37 UTC

Nice lunch, no wonder they want to increase the budget

Jeebers, what's got into the Mail? A very interesting report, so are they finally waking up & realising that the country has had enough of the muppets in charge & the "highly educated" trolls in the media?

Le Basket Case de l'Europe

"As part of Mr Hollande’s sycophancy towards the Germans, he has loudly blamed Mr Cameron for holding up the EU budget process through his demand for more austerity. This is stunningly hypocritical, because it is the Germans — not the British — who are increasingly France’s main critics."

One issue remains though & that's with our "leaders" - Why aren't they worried?

"It is no wonder the Germans are deeply worried. They, with their financial expertise and freedom from socialist doctrine, know that Mr Hollande’s policies can have only one outcome.

And it would be an outcome that could leave not just France, but much of Europe, in economic ruins."
____________

Profile Chris SProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 19 Nov 00
Posts: 31375
Credit: 12,030,994
RAC: 29,239
United Kingdom
Message 1309654 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 9:16:46 UTC

Daily Mail COMMENT

The Prime Minister deserves great credit for trying to force the spendthrift EU elite to join the real world, in which national budgets are being slashed and household incomes ruthlessly squeezed.

We also applaud Mr Cameron for recruiting Germany as a powerful ally in resisting a budget deal that would have done nothing to slim down the grotesquely bloated Brussels bureaucracy.

The press & media have had a mid-term free for all against the government for months now, and it is wearing a bit thin. I think even the Mail is starting to realise that we want the politicians on our side not fight against them all the time.

BBC COMMENT

"Together, we had a very clear message - 'We are not going to be tough on budgets at home just to come here and sign up to big increases in European spending'." He added: "But we still believe a deal is absolutely do-able. Freezing budget is not an extreme position."

The biggest net contributors (those who pay in more than they get back) are: Germany, the UK, France and Italy but EU Commission data shows that in terms of per capita contributions the UK is sixth, after the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Germany and Finland

The prime minister left Brussels looking confident. He will expect a good reception back home. He will know, however, that next year an EU budget deal will have to be done.


Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1309752 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 13:11:09 UTC - in response to Message 1309654.

He will know, however, that next year an EU budget deal will have to be done.



Really? & just why is that?
____________

Profile Chris SProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 19 Nov 00
Posts: 31375
Credit: 12,030,994
RAC: 29,239
United Kingdom
Message 1309798 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 15:42:40 UTC

If an agreement is not reached by the end of 2013, the 2013 budget ceilings will have to be rolled over into 2014, together with a 2% inflation adjustment. That gives uncertainty over long-term EU projects. That is not good for anyone.

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1309880 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 18:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 1309798.

If an agreement is not reached by the end of 2013, the 2013 budget ceilings will have to be rolled over into 2014, together with a 2% inflation adjustment. That gives uncertainty over long-term EU projects. That is not good for anyone.


Are you that blind? Of course the uncertainty is good. It will force those unelected muppets in Brussels to hold tigher rein over their budgets rather than wasting it on £120 bottles of red wine!

They do that often enough & the budget will in fact be reduced - less wastage!
____________

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1309964 - Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 23:04:34 UTC

One of the major reasons why the EU will never be united & integrated.....

Hollande Sauce (© Chris S) proven to be too weak

Tories cheer Cameron but demand referendum

"Mr Pritchard wants the Coalition to publish a Referendum Bill to set the terms on a public vote. “This should be an in/out referendum – anything short of that simply won’t deliver,” he writes.

The MP said that only such an unambiguous question would “assuage the British people”.

However, there is little belief that the budget will be resolved at that meeting either."

& that is the bait that could end up trapping him! Even though he's showing his mettle & getting many of his own party behind him, the fact is that many have finally woken up to the cashcow that the EU itself is & with him already offering the referendum mandate (which he failed once to uphold), a referendum before 2015 will become neccessary if he wishes to remain in power!
____________

Profile Chris SProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 19 Nov 00
Posts: 31375
Credit: 12,030,994
RAC: 29,239
United Kingdom
Message 1310103 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 9:43:17 UTC

rather than wasting it on £120 bottles of red wine!

Don't get too wound up over a deliberately provocative newspaper headline. It is common knowledge that all governments, UK and abroad, including Buckingham Palace, have extensive wine cellars that have been built up over very many years, and are fully managed and regularly added to. Promising vintages are bought in bulk and laid down for future use. Their wine experts are some of the best in the business.

The wine in question, a 1992 Chateau Angelus Grand Cru, might cost £120 each at todays prices, but a few dozen cases 20 years ago would have been considerably less. And in any case the diners were short changed, it's 2 years past it best drink by date!

Chateau Angelus

Government Cellar
Wine sell off

Royal Cellars
NZ Wine

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1310115 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 10:21:18 UTC - in response to Message 1310103.

Is that the best you could come up with? So there's no wastage then?

OK, let's increase the budget as they're all efficient & prudent!
____________

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1310120 - Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 10:35:59 UTC

A Warning for Britain Stay out of the Euro

"21 November 2012 9:13pm One tired man alone in the dark: or what becomes of a surrendered StateHere is my Thursday Eurowatch column in the Irish Daily Mail. I've put it here for the eurozone trainspotters amongst you. For the rest, by which I mean all you lucky British who are not caught in the nightmare of the euro, perhaps you can read it and be grateful you and your currency remain independent. And just to remind, Michael Noonan is the Irish finance minister -- watch and see what can happen to the minister of a once-independent country when it joins a currency union."

Full Story
____________

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1310415 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 7:16:23 UTC

It looks like my estimate of 2020 is looking good!

Excellent Ossie, is that to pay for the EU Budget increase then?

Tell me this isn't true!

"Former PM Tony B-liar has now joined the fight with sceptics"

What's the matter cronie? They won't have you as EU president then?
____________

NickProject donor
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 11 Oct 11
Posts: 3903
Credit: 1,983,765
RAC: 1,151
United Kingdom
Message 1310560 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 19:16:49 UTC - in response to Message 1310415.
Last modified: 26 Nov 2012, 19:18:53 UTC

Tell me this isn't true!

"Former PM Tony B-liar has now joined the fight with sceptics"

What's the matter cronie? They won't have you as EU president then?

Exactly what I thought too. Something had changed and either "Coronation Street
son in-law" had finally woken up to the shysters of Brussels scam or that he
knows he has no chance of becoming President. The latter obviously for even he
has now cottoned on to the fact that to be president of Europe you first have to
be a "Commi"!!!..When Adolf departed he left a void, these Brussels lot are
rapidly filling it.
____________
The Kite Fliers

--------------------
Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Profile Chris SProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 19 Nov 00
Posts: 31375
Credit: 12,030,994
RAC: 29,239
United Kingdom
Message 1310566 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 19:39:59 UTC

When Adolf departed he left a void,

I really do not think it is helpfull to make comments of this nature.

rob smithProject donor
Volunteer tester
Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 8287
Credit: 54,833,387
RAC: 74,365
United Kingdom
Message 1310576 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 20:18:14 UTC

One thing rather puzzles me (well actually more than one thing, but...)

Today we see two groups of people rushing in opposite directions.

The first group are those who live in countries that may be described as "federal" in nature, that is the country they live in is actually made up of several different smaller countries. These folks want to break away from the larger country (Scotland/UK & Catalonia/Spain are two examples that have been in the news today). They are wanting this in the belief that as a smaller country they will be in a "better" situation.

The second group are those, often in the same countries, who want to create "mega states" by forging ever tighter unions between "small" countries. In the belief that as a large country they will be in a "better" situation.

Now both can't be right, or can they...
____________
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1310624 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 23:45:48 UTC - in response to Message 1310566.

Why Not? After all it is history, or do you wish to alter history for your own ends?

Massive inflation & unemployment, together with the reparation payments made Germany a hostile breeding ground......

.... & the difference in the EU today is?
____________

NickProject donor
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 11 Oct 11
Posts: 3903
Credit: 1,983,765
RAC: 1,151
United Kingdom
Message 1310772 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 18:52:26 UTC - in response to Message 1310624.

Why Not? After all it is history, or do you wish to alter history for your own ends?

Massive inflation & unemployment, together with the reparation payments made Germany a hostile breeding ground......

.... & the difference in the EU today is?

....The void left by Adolf, for Brussels is only trying to achieve that which
he failed too.

____________
The Kite Fliers

--------------------
Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1310870 - Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 23:35:39 UTC

More trouble for France

Nice, don't pay your taxes, get your national Debt reduced by 20% & then get 44bn euros

King warns risk from Eurozone has grown

So all's well in the serfdom then, nothing to worry about.
____________

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1310986 - Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 11:25:15 UTC

There's a hole in the budget, dear Liza

The Eu's new National Anthem: -

There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza,
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza,
There's a hole.

Then fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
Then fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, fix it.

With what should I fix it, dear Liza, dear Liza,
With what should I fix it, dear Liza, with what?

With a straw, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
With a straw, dear Henry, dear Henry, with a straw.

But the straw is too long, dear Liza, dear Liza,
The straw is too long, dear Liza, too long.

Then cut it dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
Then cut it dear Henry, dear Henry, cut it!

With what shall I cut it, dear Liza, dear Liza,
With what shall I cut it, dear Liza, with what?

With an ax, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
With an ax, dear Henry, an ax.

But the ax is too dull, dear Liza, dear Liza,
The ax is too dull, dear Liza, too dull.

Then, sharpen it, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
Then sharpen it dear Henry, dear Henry, sharpen it!

With what should I sharpen it, dear Liza, dear Liza,
With what should I sharpen, dear Liza, with what?

With a stone, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
With a stone, dear Henry, dear Henry, a stone.

But the stone is too dry, dear Liza, dear Liza,
The stone is too dry, dear Liza, too dry.

Then wet it, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
Then wet it dear Henry, dear Henry, wet it.

With what should I wet it, dear Liza, dear Liza,
With what should I wet it, dear Liza, with what?

With water, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
With water, dear Henry, dear Henry, with water.

But how shall I get it?, dear Liza, dear Liza,
But how shall I get it?, dear Liza, with what?

In the bucket, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
In the bucket, dear Henry, dear Henry, in the bucket!

But there's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza,
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, a hole.
There's a hole.

____________

Sirius B
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 10793
Credit: 1,572,646
RAC: 2,110
Israel
Message 1311703 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 11:38:04 UTC

Oh dear, get ready for another 4 years of time wasting, lavish lunches, useless summits & soundbites.......

Merkel's CDU has become intellectually comatose

...in other words, brain dead!
____________

Profile Chris SProject donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 19 Nov 00
Posts: 31375
Credit: 12,030,994
RAC: 29,239
United Kingdom
Message 1311714 - Posted: 6 Dec 2012, 12:43:43 UTC

For some time now you have thought it amusing to regularly change the country in your avatar. Ho ho, that will get 'em niggled. Not at all, it is seen by all as quite childish really. But your choice of Afghanistan this week does deserve some comment. Perhaps you might like to read through the full list below.

British fatalities

You choose to live in Britain, and have done so for many years, and as such you believe it gives you the right to regularly lampoon and denigrate our politicians. But what it manifestly does not do, is give you the right to insult our armed forces who have died in the service of their country.

I cannot imagine a better thread title to comment upon this, and I strongly suggest that you have a re-think.



Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 . . . 9 · Next

Message boards : Politics : 5: Big Bang Looming.......

Copyright © 2014 University of California