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Message 1302057 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 12:46:48 UTC - in response to Message 1151752.

This may sound silly; but is it not also possible, although most highly unlikely, that any signal that we may receive, may have been Sent from The FUTURE?
Just consider this ..... If a signal from Earth had somehow managed to reach another Part of Space, and was Intercepted/Received by 'IT' or 'THEM' (Inteligent Being/s); but due to the Actual Time that it took to Travel Through Space to that Location, by the Time it was Intercepted/Received, the Actual Origin (Time) that The Message was Sent (from Earth), was in reality in OUR PAST (similar to the Message in the Movie 'CONTACT') ..... BUT ... The Interceptors Were NOT in the Immediate Vicinity of the Point In Space of Interception, but a further 100 or so Million Lightyears Away. And they used Extremely Advanced Tecnology that had Reached Out Into (Their) Deep Space, and happened across Our Message which was heading their way.
However, THAT Message of Theirs, had actually been Sent in Anticipation of Reaching Somewhere Like Earth, and NOT as a Means of Searching For Incoming Signals (Messages), but had by Chance Intercepted OUR MESSAGE, and by the use of Their Technology, had Incorporated a Response/Reply to Our Message, yet Allowed Their Original Message to Remain in Intact.

My Theory is that This Would Happen As The 2 Messages kind of Pass Each Other, so that The 2 Messages Continue (Virtually Uninterupted, except for what I have said above) NOT in their Original Direction, but are DIVERTED (Due To Their Interaction) towards The Location of The Origin of The Other.
By the time that WE Actually Receive THEIR MESSAGE, The Time Of Origin That It Was Sent By THEM, is Actually In The Past because of the Time It Took to Get To Earth. Whereas, in Reality, because of the fact (which I have not yet mentioned) of Their Message Actually Being Sent (let's say 100 Earth Years) AFTER Our Message was Sent, The Message That WE RECEIVE would have Originated in OUR FUTURE.

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Message 1306134 - Posted: 14 Nov 2012, 17:11:43 UTC
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An interesting hypothesis.
I'm not sure if its valid, but its well worth having a think about....
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Message 1306135 - Posted: 14 Nov 2012, 17:15:41 UTC

Um, it woz there, now it ain't, I iz confuddled.

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Message 1306520 - Posted: 15 Nov 2012, 19:10:50 UTC - in response to Message 1306135.

Um, it woz there, now it ain't, I iz confuddled.


Quite simple actually...

If we sent out a message today that got picked up by an alien straight away
even though under normal conditions it should have taken many light years
to have got to them...if then they immediately replied in such a way that
we got this reply back immediately too even though to us with our technology
this return message should have taken again many light years to have got to us
then does this mean that we have actually received a message effectively from
the future. Answer...NO.


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Message 1306645 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 2:33:09 UTC

Oww, my brain hurts. :P
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Message 1306737 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 12:13:24 UTC

Yep! Mine too :-)

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Message 1307459 - Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 18:28:16 UTC

What you say, makes me think of a good book I once read. It is called 'Messages from the future' by Hank Wesselman. It's more of a spiritualistic view on the matter.

http://www.sharedwisdom.com/product/spiritwalker-messages-future
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Message 1307467 - Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 18:52:57 UTC

As U say "when a signal (message) is picked up", that is heard or listened to, does that alter in anyway the original signal? NOOOOOOO. The signal is not changed and although it may be received into some sort of signal sensing device as U suggest from an ET somewhere in space; the signal is unchanged and also continues on at it's present speed of sound in the near vacume of space and really in all directions at the same time, 360 degrees in spherical form. That also means that this same signal would and could be "picked up" (message) or heard at any given point on our own planet earth, provided the receiver was tuned to that frequency. Theoretically speaking, all sound signals exist forever and continue on at the speed of sound in a near vacume forever, never to cease, while trying to reach the edge of the universe, for which there is none, thus infinity! Les lescot

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Message 1307470 - Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 18:58:34 UTC
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Welcome to the boards, Les. Crunch away, I'd say:)
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Message 1307474 - Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 19:15:32 UTC

Another problem I see with Ur theory is U R assuming that the signal (message) is directional. Well I believe it could be directional but it would have to ride on another medium, i.e, directional lasor beam or any other directional controlling apparatus. Problem being, U would have to know in advance exactly where to point that signal to reach the receiver somewhere in outer space. Not practical if Ur searching for an unknown. In that case U would certainly want to spread the signal around as much as possible by using something like a broad spectrum frequency generator transmitter with as much power as U could possible force into the signal to cover the most area in all directions. Given the vast distances/times for travel in the universe and then measuring speed as time in light years to go from point A to point B, and with all things considered as being equal; then time and distance becomes unfathumable to the human mind. That is, could U really assume that a signal traveling as fast as possible in space and having to travel 100 light years away, would be traveling into the future, staying in the present would be impossible unless U traveled along with it; or perhaps traveling back in time to the beginning or near to that BIG BANG Time period??? I think it all becomes totally irrelevant to even think in those terms. If a signal came to us from 100 light years away, by the time we received it, would those ET's still exist, if there world were destroyed shortly after they sent the message, hummmmm?????? Kinda like which came first the Chicken or the Egg? Les, lescot

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Message 1307480 - Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 19:48:52 UTC

Since this is a message board pertaining to Seti@home I am hoping that someone out there can help me with it. I just joined BOINC yesterday and I was able to muddle my way through getting involved and loaded my very first work segment. It ran for a period of time and then finished and all indications were that it concluded correctly and nothing failed. However, I do not know if it was reported back to Seti's Aricebo sight or NOT? Since that time, I have not been able to receive or download anymore WORK SEGMENTS from their project sight. Can anyone explain the sequential steps one must take to accomplish a renewal of work segments from Seti@home's Project, so that my CPU can do some signal searching/number crunching for them? Seti@home leaves a LOT TO DESIRE when it comes to explanations or instructions of use!!! Thanks in advance. Les lesco

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Message 1307499 - Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 21:17:40 UTC

First, welcome to the project, and to the boards.
Now for a few answers to your questions.
SETI@HOME lives in the Science Lab at Berkeley University.
The S@H collects data from the Arecibo telescope, and does not have a direct link back - the prime user of this data is no S@H but other projects.
We screen this data for possible "interesting", non-human, non-terrestrial signals, and our individual results are correlated together by a process known as "Nit-picking" - the data from the same area of the sky from different (well spread) dates is compared to see if there is any real significance in what's been seen there.

Looking at your computers it would appear that you have received a few more work units for your crunchers to feast upon, and that your first set of data has been validated, which means is that at least one other cruncher has returned the same summary of the work unit as yourself.
You shouldn't have to do anything apart from let your PC return data and collect new data, BOINC should manage it all fro you....

The best place to get questions like yours answered more fully is the "Number Crunchers" part of the forum.
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Message 1307505 - Posted: 18 Nov 2012, 21:29:11 UTC

Thanks Rob, I'm sure that Les will find that helpful.

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