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Message 1443201 - Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 22:36:11 UTC - in response to Message 1443157.  

"...you are more of a danger to the Seti project than a help..."

I submit that whoever PM'd that is more of a danger to this
project than a computer trashing work units. Trashed work units
get resent, PO' crunchers probably don't come back.

Mikla, if you know for sure it was a software problem I would
like to see the details of it if you would be kind enough to
post them. I have seen hardware problems cause these errors.

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Message 1443232 - Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 1:45:02 UTC

Thanks all... probably a bit of an overreaction on my part. The computer in question happens to be my son's gaming machine that I built from scratch with premium components and a 1000w high end power supply. I've also done several stress tests on the GPU and CPU with no problems. He plays all the high end games and never sees a problem. I'll have to look, but I don't think the video card is overclocked.

It just seems odd that with all the stress testing and all the games with no problems that SETI would have problems. If I get some down time maybe I'll look at one of the optimized solutions. But with 16 computers and two ESXi servers in my house I could spend 100% of my time as an IT person versus everything else I have to do.

Meanwhile, I will disable the GPU use on that computer.

Thanks again!
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Message 1443234 - Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 1:50:48 UTC - in response to Message 1443232.  

Thanks all... probably a bit of an overreaction on my part. The computer in question happens to be my son's gaming machine that I built from scratch with premium components and a 1000w high end power supply. I've also done several stress tests on the GPU and CPU with no problems. He plays all the high end games and never sees a problem. I'll have to look, but I don't think the video card is overclocked.

It just seems odd that with all the stress testing and all the games with no problems that SETI would have problems. If I get some down time maybe I'll look at one of the optimized solutions. But with 16 computers and two ESXi servers in my house I could spend 100% of my time as an IT person versus everything else I have to do.

Meanwhile, I will disable the GPU use on that computer.

Thanks again!

Just disable the 560Ti from doing SETI work until you can have a good look at it. ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 1443236 - Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 1:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 1443232.  

Rather than disabling the GPU why don't you attach it to another project? It may fare better doing E@H for example. There are many worthwhile projects that could use help.
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Message 1443319 - Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 8:26:48 UTC

As is seen below it does pay to be polite in your messages to any cruncher with a high invalid count,

Remember, if they do have a high error or invalid count they are actually doing NOTHING to hurt or damage the project, simply because the project is marking them as errors or invalids.

Also the fact that they CAN run up a high total of invalids or errors is due to the project not them. The project is supposed to have a working method to restrict faulty machines. It does not.

So please if PM'ing someone with problems be helpful and polite.

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Message 1443369 - Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 13:03:18 UTC - in response to Message 1443319.  

QMC@home has sent me a 64-bit app, while I have a 32-bit Linux OS. All QMC units fail immediately and I am limited to one unit/day only.After complaining, with no result, I have put NNT. But, evidently, QMC@home is aware of my failed results, since it limited me to 1 unit/day.
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Message 1443373 - Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 13:18:56 UTC - in response to Message 1443234.  

That's what I did Wiggo... thanks!
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Message 1482866 - Posted: 28 Feb 2014, 18:49:21 UTC

I'll add this one to the list:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7213900

As I type, in excess of 8000 tasks, of which over 3000 are invalid, about 20 errors, over 2000 are pending and over 2500 are inconclusive. And less than 200 valid.
Klesh - sort it out....
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Message 1482923 - Posted: 28 Feb 2014, 21:07:57 UTC

Since he is from our team i will PM him.
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Message 1482991 - Posted: 1 Mar 2014, 0:28:07 UTC
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He PM back and was not aware of the problem, will take a look on that.
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Message 1483096 - Posted: 1 Mar 2014, 6:27:38 UTC

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Message 1483731 - Posted: 2 Mar 2014, 19:21:04 UTC

Another one with thousands of invalids and inconclusives

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6158638
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Message 1485474 - Posted: 6 Mar 2014, 20:54:05 UTC - in response to Message 1483731.  

Interesting. Starting about 2 weeks ago (Feb 18th), I began to have a high number of "Completed, validation inconclusive" results along with some invalids. I'm running a pair of Nvidia 480's that (with CPU's) were averaging around 33500 but are now down to 22500 and still dropping as though new credit is not being applied even for valids. I note also that the averages for others on the TAMU Team are dropping as well. The "Completed, validation inconclusive" results on those I checked within the team all seem to be SETI@home v7 though the rate of inconclusives appears to be somewhat higher on my machine.

Seeking advice.
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Message 1490048 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 10:07:50 UTC - in response to Message 1485474.  

Most of my WUs are inconclusive too :(
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Message 1490199 - Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 18:47:22 UTC

There is a big difference between getting an "inconclusive" notice against a WU and an "invalid".
"Inconclusive" returns are a fact of life, meaning that you and your wingman haven't agreed so the WU is sent out to another user to another user to act as arbiter.
Invalids however can be an indication of a problem - you have not agreed with either of the two (or more) wingmen to which the WU has been sent. If you get the odd report (I've had two in the last six months, so must be due another soon) then its not a problem, but if you have a very high percentage then it is an indication of there being a potential problem with your PC and it needs to be investigated.
Looking at the returns for your PC I am fairly certain you have no problem.
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Message 1490541 - Posted: 18 Mar 2014, 7:48:39 UTC - in response to Message 1490199.  

Thanks for the explanation, Rob. One of the inconclusive WUs is now in the valid group. I'll be more patient :P
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Message 1494329 - Posted: 24 Mar 2014, 5:43:38 UTC - in response to Message 1490199.  

Your explanations helpful, Bob. Since my original post concerning invalids and errors, I've reconfigured my machine somewhat due to a gradual degrade. The rejections on the earlier configuration of 7241722 began when I installed a 480 GB SSD not expecting much or any SETI gain. However, to my surprise, the rate increased quite a bit but then I began to notice the WU issues. I had also upgraded to the most recent BOINC about the same time and was cautiously suspect of that change as well.

I'm still experiencing some V7 invalids but the large number of WU's in error on the 19th was due to the reconfigure when the machine finally shut down. I'm still baffled on the cause but could see the gradual degrade over several days.

I would appreciate your review of results on 7241722 for any obvious issues that come to mind which aren't so obvious to me.

Thanks - Bill
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Message 1494496 - Posted: 24 Mar 2014, 14:16:02 UTC

Just sent a PM to Wes Shaw, owner of 7165536. He has 12 computers, of which this is the only bad one, but it's a doozie:

 In progress (200) · Validation pending (2481) · Validation inconclusive (3384) · Valid (88) · Invalid (2282) · Error (13)


He has posted in Q&P, so he should be receptive to my suggestion that he ask for help here in NC.
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Message 1495095 - Posted: 25 Mar 2014, 14:09:05 UTC - in response to Message 1494496.  

Just sent a PM to Wes Shaw, owner of 7165536. He has 12 computers, of which this is the only bad one, but it's a doozie:

 In progress (200) · Validation pending (2481) · Validation inconclusive (3384) · Valid (88) · Invalid (2282) · Error (13)


He has posted in Q&P, so he should be receptive to my suggestion that he ask for help here in NC.

Wes replied, thanking me for pointing out his problem. He fixed it himself by updating his Cuda driver. The box has no new invalids and only one inconclusive in over a day.
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