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Message 1303594 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 17:37:45 UTC - in response to Message 1303592.

You do wonder then is the investigations getting to close to some of
his associates in Government and their sweating under their collars.


Yep, & if that turns out to be the case, will it be covered up?

So Del-boy had better....

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Message 1303604 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 17:46:01 UTC

There may be a chance that Cameron feels the investigations may be touching
on very innocent people. I haven't heard of this situation so far, but
this whole shebang needs an utter routing even if the not guilty get dragged
in to the affray....it's the only way.

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Message 1303608 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 17:49:39 UTC - in response to Message 1303604.
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The problem here though Nick is "WHO" will be doing the investigating?

As the North Wales care homes scandal has highlighted: - Police, Judges, Solicitors, MP's - How do we know that those investigating these issues are not of the same bent?

Edit: I'm wondering if William Hague had any inkling of this & if he did, why didn't he act on it?
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Message 1303621 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 17:59:19 UTC

You can't know for sure but on this occasion one would have expected that
the "Security" chaps would have supplied any information about these
investigators that may have bought their integrity into question....we can
only hope....I expect the "Minister" may have a line to put on this.

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Message 1303645 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 18:31:37 UTC

I think we should all just calm down, and stop getting hyped up by the media. It would also help to refrain from quoting Bud Flannagan songs. Yes it was a shame that Clive Dunn died, even so.

BBC political editor Nick Robinson has been told by the PM's aides that he is disgusted that old online gossip about some politicians covering up the fact they were gay was now being associated with the serious crime of child abuse. During the live interview, the presenter Mr Schofield, handed the PM a card with a list of names on it, saying that they were people Mr Cameron knew and asking whether he would be talking to them.

Mr Cameron, who did not look at the names, replied with a warning: "There is a danger, if we're not careful, that this could turn into a sort of witch-hunt, particularly against people who are gay and I'm worried about the sort of thing you are doing right now - giving me a list of names that you've taken off the internet." Mr Cameron said that if anyone had any information about anyone who was a paedophile "no matter how high up in British society they are - that's what the police are for".

A No 10 source also described the decision to hand Mr Cameron the list of names as a "silly stunt" and "irresponsible". Mr Schofield, who first rose to fame on children's TV, later apologised if the names on the card could be seen by viewers because of a "misjudged camera angle". "If any viewer was able to identify anyone listed, I would like to apologise and stress that was never my intention. I was not accusing anyone of anything and it is essential that it is understood that I would never be part of any kind of witch-hunt."





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Message 1303652 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 18:34:27 UTC - in response to Message 1303645.

Voyez ce que je veux dire Nick, il n'y a tout simplement pas faire face à certaines gens du 19ème siècle!
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Message 1303657 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 18:45:10 UTC - in response to Message 1303652.

Voyez ce que je veux dire Nick, il n'y a tout simplement pas faire face à certaines gens du 19ème siècle!

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Message 1303666 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 19:09:21 UTC

Messieurs. Les gens de la Corée du Nord, en citant écolier français, pour un Anglais, sont toujours à court de arméria de USA a accueilli forum.

Maintenant cesser ou vous allez être signalés au préfet Merkel, et vous ne serez pas maintenant que ce sera vous?

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Message 1303667 - Posted: 8 Nov 2012, 19:12:59 UTC - in response to Message 1303666.

Is that a fact? Then please explain why you're not scolding a very dear freind of yours who has been residing in the US for 1/2/3 decades & showing a German flag? No faith in America prehaps? If so, why reside there?

Ah, better $$$$$$$$$.

Pot Kettle & Black springs to mind!
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Message 1304520 - Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 16:03:07 UTC

From the mouth of babes......

BBC got it wrong, says DG

"John Whittingdale: "There's been a failure of management at every level""

"Meanwhile, Culture Secretary Maria Miller said: "I have been clear that the BBC Trust needs to get to the bottom, and quickly, of what has gone wrong at the corporation." So, if they don't can we have a refund of our licence?

"Kevin Marsh, a former editor of the Today programme, said Mr Entwistle did not give the impression of "a man who is absolutely in charge of everything". So privatise it!

4 things come to mind.....

Orgies/Brothels & ---- up's/Breweries
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Message 1304944 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 15:18:57 UTC

It looks like a major management shake up is coming ...
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Message 1304967 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 16:39:56 UTC

It does seem that the BBC is in significantly more trouble than I realised or foresaw. That is a lose/lose situation for everybody.

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Message 1304973 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 16:49:18 UTC - in response to Message 1304967.

It does seem that the BBC is in significantly more trouble than I realised or foresaw. That is a lose/lose situation for everybody.


Now that I was not expecting. The problem with the BBC is not the organisation itself but the people in it, for example, Schofield was way out of line.

Unfortunately, there are too many with that attitude within the BBC, which is why I titled the thread that way.

Personally, i see the BBC as a grand old Dame of broadcasting with its achievements something to be proud of.

However, in the 21st century & it's current attitude - it's time for it to go - Unless someone comes in & shakes the damn tree loose!
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Message 1304979 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 17:06:36 UTC

Now that I was not expecting.

Why not? If I'm proved to be wrong, I'm always prepared to admit it.

Schofield was well out of order that is pretty much universally agreed. I agree with all that you say, but not the BBC that has to go, its the climate within it and the people that adhere to it, that has to. The BBC as an entity should remain, but I think we can be sure that it will have to change radically from here on in.

I didn't foresee all this coming their way, and it does seem that they deserve it, but it's still a lose/lose situation, which I hopw something can be salvaged from.





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Message 1304984 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 17:42:21 UTC - in response to Message 1304979.

Agree, but salvage? With all this going on? Doubt it as there will be too many recriminations occurring & possibly some high profile court cases!

Will Sally Bercow be sued?

Incompetents & Cowards cost DG his job

Skewered by his own side

Lord Patton says "We must get a grop" but won't stand down

Saville's former producer arrested then bailed

What is the B.I.J?
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Message 1305006 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 18:29:15 UTC
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Schofield was way out of line.


That was ITV a "private company"

Perhaps the BBC should stick to just "Reporting" the news not making it.
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Message 1305012 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 18:39:41 UTC - in response to Message 1305006.

True, but wasn't it the BBC that gave him his "big" opportunity?

He more than likely used it as a dig against the BBC, in other words, jumping on the bandwagon!
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Message 1305303 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 7:54:54 UTC - in response to Message 1304984.
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Lord Patton says "We must get a grop" but won't stand down
The BBC, a totally dysfunctional institution without any true leadership. Lord Patton
looks dead on his feet as head of a Trust without portfolio. Is the BBC a
serious broadcasting organisation or just a fee-sucking licensed quango?
The only way to sort this organisation/quango out is to fold it up and rebuild
it all over again, virtually from scratch.
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Message 1305355 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 14:05:47 UTC - in response to Message 1305303.

Finally, the correct solution & arrived at in 43 days. How long have the M.I.C.'s been at this?

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Message 1305390 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 16:11:16 UTC

I've just watched on Parliament TV the Urgent Question tabled by Labour to the Secretary of State for Culture, Media & Sport, regarding the current position of the BBC. Maria Miller spoke well but could not defend the payoff that the outgoing DG got. Harriet Harman, Deputy Labour Leader, also gave a spirited response and welcomed the statement.

Both sides of the House agree that it was right that Entwistle should have gone, and all agree that it is a matter for him whether to accept the full amount awarded or not. There was also broad agreement that the BBC is a respected worldwide institution, and that it should be given a period of stability to sort out its problems, and regain the public's trust.

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