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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
The Turin shroud has been examined and dated many times and the general consensus is that it is medieval. It is what it represents that is important, not so much the genuineness of it. +1 people can believe what they want to, their choice. +2 rOZZ Music Pictures |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
My arguments are never to take away a person's choice in belief. My arguments are that facts and evidence are empirical to personal choice and interpretation. It doesn't matter what people believe the Shroud of Turin represents if in fact it does not, and the same goes for cave drawings of supposed alien spacecraft. They are both not proof or possible proof of the thing they are thought to be proof of. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
If it's open to personal interpretation, then surely it cannot be used as possible evidence when there is no other corroborating evidence to support the claim. In that regard, they are quite the same. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
u be the judge? On the night of Jan. 21, an Oregon citizen captured video of what he thought was a UFO. While we've offered many previous UFO videos, what makes this one especially interesting is that he got it in regular and night vision video. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/07/oregon-ufo-captured-on-regular-night-vision_n_4738044.html Oregon UFO Captured On Night Vision Video |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
I have a friend at work, Silke, she has a high position there and is very clever. One time she told me she lost consciousness one day and she woke up three months later without knowing what happened. She told me she was abducted by aliens at that time. I started laughing but she remained dead serious. Personally I don't believe her body was kidnapped and certainly not by aliens. There is a spiritual world though, people. I think it has something to do with a force or entity or whatever you want to call it. I think like a scientist, so everything needs empirical evidence for me but I do believe some people are more 'open' to the spiritual world than others. (Babies certainly are!) rOZZ Music Pictures |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
As I stated weeks ago in this thread. A slewing searchlight on a cloud cover moves just about as fast as you like. If you were staring at two mountain tops far in the distance and a bug walked across your glasses you might also think that an abject was moving very quickly between the mountain tops. I wear glasses and have noted that they can sometimes catch a stray bit of an image or light. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20326 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... It could be 3 days, 3 weeks, or 3 months, but you will know. ... That is suitably vague that given enough time and superstition, you are bound to find something to fit the pattern. No mysticism. Just a cheap easy con-trick. Anyone for The Bible Code? There are enough random patterns in there that you can find anything and everything you might want... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Tarot is illogical, and it can't stand up to scientific investigation It's interesting. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Object spotted next to Jupiter: http://www.realufos.net/2014/02/huge-mystery-object-caught-next-to.html Probably an asteroid or a galaxy or something... rOZZ Music Pictures |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
it cut out did 5 180's at about 1/4 mile each Searchlight shining on low clouds and fog. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Object spotted next to Jupiter: Water drop on Lens, or a pure hoax. Any reputable observatory reporting this as well ?? I think Not. Apply logic and you can see that this is nonsense. Also, consider the source. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
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William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Bunch of hicks who can't recognize lights on a jeep top rack or an 4-wheeler . |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
I'm 64 years old and I sure wish I had seen something like this. I had a friend who swore until his dying day that he saw a strange flying vehicle when he was in his 20s. But no one else was around to verify his sighting. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Larry Monske Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 281 Credit: 554,328 RAC: 0 |
First the Phoenix light were over Luke AFB, OPFORs training was in operations with f16s and a10s. OPFORs training is confidential so they wont admit anything.Lets look at radars in this area. Luke AFB, civilian private aviation airfields with their own radar. Now for the Big stuff NORAD within range,Whitesands within range of their sophisticated radars. Deep Space radar a humming bird couldnt fly thru here without showing up. Now as for aircraft you have F16s and A10s fully armed and fighter jocks that would love to flame someone. When OPFORs training the areas radars are informed of their operations. As for lights these aircraft had flares that were old and supposed to be used before landing. The Lights: In a F16 there is a switch that drops flares at a timed sequence with a choice of 2/4/6 second intervals if you watch the video every two seconds a flare appears. I insist that Phoenix lights are flares. If anything did try to enter this airspace it wouldnt be unidentified it would be flaming wreckage. This area has so much radar that it doesnt make sense to be A UFO to try to test their capabilities.I would assume they are intelligent. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2604240/What-Black-Ring-Leamington-Spa-Mysterious-object-sky-captured-girl-16-iPhone.html What is the Black Ring of Leamington Spa? Mysterious object in the sky is captured by girl, 16, on her iPhone. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2604240/What-Black-Ring-Leamington-Spa-Mysterious-object-sky-captured-girl-16-iPhone.html Thanx Lynn:) Another one of them phenomena of nature I think though... rOZZ Music Pictures |
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