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Message 1263336 - Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 13:27:11 UTC

Spiral Galaxy in "early" universe

Hmmn, only 3 billion years after the "big bang" - not long then.. :)
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Message 1263435 - Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 18:45:59 UTC

Yea, every time you hear a story like this, the astronomers use words like "shocked" and "surprised" and "astounded" to describe what they find. In this case, its just another spiral galaxy. But they are surprised and shocked because it doesn't neatly fit their "Big Bang" theory. In this case, they say that the spiral galaxy just didn't have time to form.

As i said here before;
There never was any Big Bang, and thats why that galaxy is there!
Its no shocking, its not surprising, its just another galaxy!
There is no Dark Matter
There is no Dark energy
There is no Black holes

The news article is just another alarmist story fed out by astronomers that are just too lazy to search for the real error.

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Message 1263452 - Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 20:01:23 UTC
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Why do you have both energy and matter existing side by side in the Universe?

Is energy the same as heat or temperature? Meaning with this what it represents or is standing for.

If an object is emitting light, like the picture of this newly discovered galaxy, is it because it is emitting light because it releases energy?

If I am out having a walk, or maybe sunbathing (not this summer), I receive heat from the sun if the sky is clear and the sun is shining. More specifically, I receive infrared waves (should I rather say photons which are particles) coming from the sun, which to me is felt by heat, but really is radiation.

Same goes with gamma ray and X-ray particles. We assume that the atmosphere protects us from such particles as well as other types of cosmic radiation which is coming from outer space. The sun at the middle of the day there is however no protection against. You may risk becoming burnt by the sun.

If the light from this galaxy is from a time only 3 billion years after the "big bang", this galaxy may be some 10,8 billion light years away.

Also in the time the light from this galaxy has taken to reach us, the same object has receded even farther away and should now be invisible even with the largest of telescopes.

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Message 1263484 - Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 21:00:26 UTC
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Yes, the whole light/energy thing can be confusing, but think of it like this - Light is moving energy and Matter is stopped energy. As Einstein figured out, matter itself can be broken apart to release the large amounts of energy trapped inside it. So at the tiniest levels, both light and matter are energy. You might find it hard to believe, but yes, at the smallest level, solid stuff isn't really solid at all. Solid matter, the stuff all around you, is actually not solid, it acts kind of wavy rather than being solid hard little bits of stuff. Its only at the large scale of things, like the world you see with your eyes, that stuff starts to look as if its solid and hard.

And light, at all wavelengths, is moving energy, its travelling between A and B. Its emitted by something, and it gets absorbed by something somewhere else. And all light, at all wavelengths, travels in waves.

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