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Juha Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Mar 04 Posts: 102 Credit: 126,184 RAC: 6	Message 1255950 - Posted: 5 Jul 2012, 17:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 1255910.
	There are also programs that will take a raw .iso and "make" a bootable thumb drive from it for you. "universal USB installer"(download towards bottom of page) is one, it works with most distro's live CDs. and there are others. I would run "universal USB installer" (windows executable), then just stick the USB thumbdrive into the computer in question and boot it... :-) Oh yes, I forgot about that one. Never used one myself though. I usually like to know how stuff works and since I already have the tools it's faster for me to do things myself rather than finding and downloading some GUI tool. But anyway, either approach works. Choosing a distro is going to be a harder problem :)
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Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,156,445 RAC: 866	Message 1255957 - Posted: 5 Jul 2012, 17:29:26 UTC
	Choosing a distro is going to be a harder problem :-) Ain't that the truth. My vote is for (Ubuntu-based) Mint(see green LM icon in my sig below), or plain Ubuntu if you like a radically different interface (Unity). ____________ -Dave #2 3.2.0-33
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Juha Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Mar 04 Posts: 102 Credit: 126,184 RAC: 6	Message 1255992 - Posted: 5 Jul 2012, 18:22:50 UTC - in response to Message 1255957.
	Choosing a distro is going to be a harder problem :-) Ain't that the truth. My vote is for (Ubuntu-based) Mint(see green LM icon in my sig below), or plain Ubuntu if you like a radically different interface (Unity). Running Mint 10 here. Lets see if we can work out some kind of short list for N9JFE so he doesn't have to try all the distros available. Ubuntu - if you want to try the new UI (or just see what so many complain about); I have only briefly tested some software on Ubuntu so I don't really have strong feelings either way of the new UI Mint - Ubuntu under the hood and more traditional UI Debian - stable version is ok for servers but has older software, I don't know how usable unstable and testing are Of the RedHat land Mandriva - I think ML1 runs this; I had a bad experience with this, but it may have had something to do with very unstable hardware I had at the time Mageia - Mandriva fork, apparently ok and somewhat popular Fedora - if you want to see what S@H staff is using Since the machine in question is a "crummy little netbook" I think KDE might not be best option which rules out Mandriva and Mageia (if someone wants to correct me go ahead). Of course there are distros that are designed for netbooks and are lightweight but they may have lost some user-friendliness in the process. So, I'd vote Mint 13 MATE.
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 2890 Credit: 257,895 RAC: 249	Message 1255999 - Posted: 5 Jul 2012, 18:40:32 UTC - in response to Message 1255992. Last modified: 5 Jul 2012, 18:41:10 UTC
	I have just bought a laptop with SuSE Linux SuSE Enterprise Desktop, SLES 11. It uses a Gnome GUI and is very reliable. I made a mistake using the touchpad and believed I had crippled the OS while writing to a DVD for a backup (you need 3) but I found a Recovery line on the start-up page. It reloaded a new OS from disk while saving my home directory. The HP 635 laptop with an AMD E-450 CPU cost me 265 euros, OS included. Tullio ____________
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7109 Credit: 3,681,240 RAC: 940	Message 1256417 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 13:55:21 UTC - in response to Message 1255992.
	Choosing a distro is going to be a harder problem :-) Ain't that the truth. My vote is for (Ubuntu-based) Mint(see green LM icon in my sig below), or plain Ubuntu if you like a radically different interface (Unity). Running Mint 10 here. Lets see if we can work out some kind of short list for N9JFE so he doesn't have to try all the distros available. Ubuntu - if you want to try the new UI (or just see what so many complain about); I have only briefly tested some software on Ubuntu so I don't really have strong feelings either way of the new UI Mint - Ubuntu under the hood and more traditional UI Debian - stable version is ok for servers but has older software, I don't know how usable unstable and testing are Of the RedHat land Mandriva - I think ML1 runs this; I had a bad experience with this, but it may have had something to do with very unstable hardware I had at the time Mageia - Mandriva fork, apparently ok and somewhat popular Fedora - if you want to see what S@H staff is using Since the machine in question is a "crummy little netbook" I think KDE might not be best option which rules out Mandriva and Mageia (if someone wants to correct me go ahead). Of course there are distros that are designed for netbooks and are lightweight but they may have lost some user-friendliness in the process. So, I'd vote Mint 13 MATE. I'll give a healthy agreement to your summary and selection. Yes, I run Mandriva amongst others. Even though the organisation behind Mandriva has had a very shaky time recently, I've had no need to 'upgrade' my main work machine and so I'm still on now quite an 'old' Mandriva. However, that is still a long way ahead of certain other OSes... ;-) I'd recommend the Mageia distro as an alternative to Mandriva until the dust settles on the recent reorganisation for Mandriva into whatever new name. I'm also rather impressed with the ridiculous flexibility of Gentoo and the seamless system of updates. However, that is also an example of bewildering choice unless you stay with the defaults. There are various distro spin-offs from Gentoo that nicely package the choices up for you. Happy crunchin', Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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N9JFE Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 2435 Credit: 8,372,274 RAC: 14,665	Message 1259991 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 20:57:23 UTC
	Thanks for all the advice, guys. And sorry it has taken me so long to say so. I really do intend to follow up on this. The crummy little netbook (which has now been replaced anyway) is probably not worth the effort itself, but I think this is a skill I'd like to have in case I need it in the future for some other more important machine. ____________ David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7109 Credit: 3,681,240 RAC: 940	Message 1260037 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 23:11:59 UTC - in response to Message 1259991. Last modified: 13 Jul 2012, 23:14:55 UTC
	... The crummy little netbook (which has now been replaced anyway) is probably not worth the effort itself, but I think this is a skill I'd like to have in case I need it in the future for some other more important machine. Hey! This is being typed on a "crummy little netbook"!! Not as fast as using a desktop, but then again, I don't go lugging my desktop around with me in my knapsack... At the moment, I'm on an old Acer AspireOne resplendent with 1.5GB RAM, 8GB SSD, and the KDE desktop on Mandriva Linux. Works fine. More than enough grunt even for Firefox... The only slowdown is from when I suffer slow WiFi from whatever roaming hookup (no problems at home), and from the physical size being a little too small for comfort. Then again, I got the netbook precisely because of that small size for portability! Aside: The s@h forums are rather cumbersome for small screen sizes. And this new paging feature on the forums requires too many clicks and pauses on slow connections! (Rain doesn't help the WiFi signal either :-( ) When I'm not out and about, it also does good service as the source for driving a projector for presentations!! For typing, even a 2/3rd sized keyboard is preferable to a touch-screen... Happy crunchin', Martin So... Why did Microsoft slap down the netbook format?... :-( Many years later, we're only just now seeing comparable devices oncemore... ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 501 Credit: 2,276,049 RAC: 2,023	Message 1260183 - Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 7:04:55 UTC - in response to Message 1260037.
	As I recall, someone at Microsoft (I think we all know who), also said that we'd never need more than 1 MB of RAM..... ____________ Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive!
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 2890 Credit: 257,895 RAC: 249	Message 1260199 - Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 8:27:34 UTC - in response to Message 1260183.
	Also Thomas J.Watson Sr. said the the world would need only 5 computers (made by IBM, of course). Tullio ____________
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