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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Your mind is more open for things when you're hypersensitive. I mean no disrespect to you or your sister, but I find it interesting that we label people who have told us of 'weird' or unusual experiences to be "more open minded" than the rest, which of course suggests that everyone else is close-minded. I believe open-minded means approaching a subject from all angles and willing to hear all data, then follow the data to a correct or likely conclusion. I'd bet that there's a natural explanation for her experience, but you'd have to be open minded to investigate it. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
still waiting for the sighting of Planet X thats supposed to crush earth. it's got less than 90 days to get here In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
if it does it would have been easily visible for several years. It takes halleys comet about 38 years to reach the sun from its apoge. IIRC that is somewhere out around Neptune. So a planet that is currently unseen and not showing any sign of being "out there". would have to have an incredible velocity to reach the inner planets in just a few months time In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Maybe it does exist & on 12/21/12, god pulls out his "godly" pool cue & sends it spinning into the middle pocket, making Johnney & the Mayans correct..... |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
The idea was first put forward in 1995 by Nancy Lieder, founder of the website ZetaTalk. Lieder describes herself as a contactee with the ability to receive messages from extra-terrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system through an implant in her brain. She states that she was chosen to warn mankind that the object would sweep through the inner Solar System in May 2003 (though that date was later abandoned) causing Earth to undergo a pole shift that would destroy most of humanity. That's an interesting idea. Something to think about... rOZZ Music Pictures |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
It's all thought provoking I agree. What? That someone 'dreams' something up, all without substance, and then others are willing to believe in such outlandish dreams of the dreamer, despite there being no substance? How else can religions and cults survive on nothing more than such "blind faith"? Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Yes, very thought provoking: Nancy Lieder claims to have a stranglehold on the truth, and that "if any human theory differs, it is wrong", and has a page dedicated to the accuracy of the Zeta predictions. Of course, her fallback position is that she obtains special knowledge from her communications with the Zetas. Unfortunately for Nancy, the Zetas apparently tell her a lot of things that are just plain wrong, or that were claims made long before the Zetas ever came along. Unfortunately a lot of misguided people tend to give far more credence to claims without proof, usually because they want to believe it. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20291 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Yes, very thought provoking: Hey! We'll have to stop agreeing like this... ;-) Cheers, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Finngineer Send message Joined: 3 May 11 Posts: 2 Credit: 64,674 RAC: 0 |
We will not die with the sun. As we know, the sun will become a red giant after approx. 10 billion years. TEN BILLION YEARS! I think the first human on a so called "exoplanet" will be real in maybe 170-400 years, if we compare the 18th century and and our technical advancement today. We will find the secrets of dark matter and how to use it for our good. Win32-bit-vista_2.6GHZ_intel_core_4gbRAM |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
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musicplayer Send message Joined: 17 May 10 Posts: 2430 Credit: 926,046 RAC: 0 |
The main reason for why we still are searching is because we happen to know about ourselves. We are trying to put a definition of our existence into a broader context where we possibly can explain both unexplained things in nature as well as our own presence here on earth within the same surroundings. We are mostly bound to this earth because of gravity and also because our recent ancestors were either stone age man or farmers at best. Really, the most recent ice age ended only some 8,000 to 10,000 years ago. Many people likely froze to their deaths even in caves and wearing fur or coat from animals which were killed for food and the like by means of a spear. Even today everything is not successful when it gets to a possible outcome of certain or specific things. Blame poor economic times perhaps, but most people do not get to the point where they are looking at a possible "overkill" when it comes to possible purchases. Maybe such a thing will come along with me. I happened to end up a little better off in the end. I got quite a bit of software in my hands - the only thing that is needed is the right hardware in order to get everything working. But is history meant to perhaps be having a surprise in hand for us in the sleeves? There is speculation around that the world will possibly end on December 21, 2012. Does anyone happen to know? |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Ready??? Ready! Let's break out the booze and have a ball. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
But is history meant to perhaps be having a surprise in hand for us in the sleeves? There is speculation around that the world will possibly end on December 21, 2012. Lol:)) rOZZ Music Pictures |
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