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Message 1313605 - Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 18:06:15 UTC
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I agree. A UFO doesn't always have to come from outer space but it's fun thinking they do:)
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Message 1313666 - Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 19:42:49 UTC - in response to Message 1313596.

It's probably The I.S.S., or some other Satellite.

And if you would like to spot that particular UFO on a regular basis, sighting opportunities for where you live are available here :)
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Message 1314577 - Posted: 13 Dec 2012, 11:06:20 UTC

I agree. A UFO doesn't always have to come from outer space but it's fun thinking they do:)

I think I'd agree with that :-) 99.9% of UFO's can be explained away, and in the other cases, governments are hardly likely to draw attention to top secret military projects. However, there are some occurrences every year that cannot be explained away by ANY means known to mankind, and those are what worry people. Origins from ET's and outer space are simply a tempting answer to them.

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Message 1314765 - Posted: 13 Dec 2012, 18:32:30 UTC - in response to Message 1314577.

I agree. A UFO doesn't always have to come from outer space but it's fun thinking they do:)

I think I'd agree with that :-) 99.9% of UFO's can be explained away, and in the other cases, governments are hardly likely to draw attention to top secret military projects. However, there are some occurrences every year that cannot be explained away by ANY means known to mankind, and those are what worry people. Origins from ET's and outer space are simply a tempting answer to them.




Tempting to me as well...:)
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Message 1315081 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 12:52:56 UTC - in response to Message 1314765.

... Origins from ET's and outer space are simply a tempting answer to them.

Tempting to me as well...:)

As 'tempting' or as alluring as Religion?...

What do you hope for from your Aliens?


And without Faith, there is nothing.

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Message 1315189 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 18:42:36 UTC - in response to Message 1315081.
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And without Faith, there is nothing.


I totally agree. Faith that the day will come we have proof we're not alone in this immense universe.
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Message 1315218 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 19:30:16 UTC

What do you hope for from your Aliens?

Oh well, now you are asking. I'll get back to you on that one.

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Message 1315596 - Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 15:53:32 UTC - in response to Message 1312281.
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Meanwhile, for your amusement, I have recently seen for real a real UFO! In plain daylight, clear view, but as is usual for such things, too fast for me to get a camera onto it.

The time was last weekend, just as twilight was falling. Lasted a good few minutes to get a good look. It was the classic two lights flying in variable formation and moving on occasion VERY QUICKLY. They would also disappear right before my eyes to then reappear in the far distance a moment or two later, to then whirl around each other to then frighteningly quickly zoom back close by again.

And they were extremely BRIGHT.

The lights did that for a five circuits of their dance before disappearing off to one side. Quite a show!

I was too surprised and delighted to get a camera on them until after they had departed. Shame...

And this was all around the one large tower and conurbation that dominates the very flat fens.


Certainly a good one to live and learn!


And for the further detail...

Watching whilst the super bright lights were dancing around and slowly pulsing to extremely bright to then down to invisible, that all looked exactly like the stereotypical "UFO lights" as seen on TV.

Only when the lights moved off to the right of my view was I able to see that the two lights that had been dancing around 'erratically' in formation were actually two sky-blue painted...


... small...



... man-made...




... jet aircraft.


They looked small enough to be military jet trainer aircraft and were loosely flying in formation with one aircraft a little behind and off to one side of the lead aircraft.

And the super bright lights and dancing about?

I recognized the 'lights' as aircraft as soon as they moved into straight and level flight to fly off to the right. They had been circling low, possibly in a holding pattern for a nearby airport. The varying blinding light was the low angle of sun reflecting off the wings and canopies as they circled banked over at perhaps 45 degrees. The lights were perceived as dancing as one object due to the two aircraft staying in formation as they flew around the holding circle.

All very convincingly spooky until the clearer view gave the game away!



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Message 1319167 - Posted: 23 Dec 2012, 5:01:12 UTC - in response to Message 1315596.

All the reports all the sightings that dont make sense. Lights that travel the atmosphere at tens of thousands an hour. Mach 3 requires a skin to survive 3500 degrees of heating and retain its purpose. Some day one way or another 60 years of silence will have to be told. Almost every country and every nation that has nuclear capibility have been visited or observed. Sandia labs almorgorgo, white sands, all over flown in 1951-1953 operation twinkle,operation page , operation bluebook all were disinformation attempts that have worked thru many presidents and congresses and many top brass in the airforce. All share a secret they have contact why else hide all UFO information behind above top secret,nuclear weapons information is only secret.Why?...
If the Airforce declares nothing there but USSR, Great Britain,Belgium, Mexico,Brazil,Isreal, Iran, all have UFO files. How come the US is the only country that wont release information?...There is only one logical reason they have made contact or intimate knowledge of what ET is and hide the evidence so our enemies and others dont have the knoledge of their powers to jouney the stars. Seti should monitor the oldest stars in globular clusters those stars as old as the universe itself.

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Message 1319168 - Posted: 23 Dec 2012, 5:05:46 UTC - in response to Message 1312207.

I cant find anymore news about the UFO's over Denver Colorado has anyone else heard anything? Or did the government break out there duct tape again?



Found this...
http://kdvr.com/2012/11/20/ufo-over-denver-fox31-update-on-mystery-in-sky/


I heard that they show up like wedsday or thursday afternoon extemely fast even a news crew got film of these extreme speed vehicles. 3-4000mph barely discernible by eye.

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Message 1319536 - Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 5:50:22 UTC

Greetings Earthlings,
I'm new to posting on this forum so I thought I might introduce myself first. I have the SETI package installed and have been running it for a while. It's not the first time, I have kept up with this project and participated several times over the years. I am also into science in a big way and have a particular interest in fringe science and UFO research. I do believe they are out there. I also have an interest in alternative energy such "zero point" or quantum. Some of you will know what I'm talking about. I think this is the type of energy used to power such craft so the argument about them not having enough fuel to travel long distance doesn't ring true.
There have been so many thousands of sightings I personally think the possibility of all of them being fake is so remote as to be absurd. These things exist. As far as why we don't yet have definitive public proof yet is certainly a mystery. The world is full of mysteries don't you think? Things like Baalbek and the pyramids come to mind. I have read the works of Zecharia Sitchin and while they certainly give one interpretation I do think he missed the mark. The point is, there is a lot we don't know and there are more questions than answers.

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Message 1319547 - Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 6:52:18 UTC - in response to Message 1262298.

Check out the concepts of overunity. You can start here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv53K9MnDuM

Personally, Prof. Searle got me started on this subject, you can look at his machine here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxMHgsmlEfs

Forget traditional fuel. It is something else.

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Message 1319590 - Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 10:44:31 UTC

Welcome to the boards, Glen:)
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Message 1319591 - Posted: 24 Dec 2012, 10:51:37 UTC

Doesn't the law of conservation of energy, say that you can't create energy. Only convert it from one form to another?

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Message 1326547 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 4:31:38 UTC

Points to ponder: In 3 billion years the Milkyway and andromada will collide head on. What if ET knows this and wants to assist us in getting to the stars and saving the essense of mankind. If we could only find out for sure one way or another. Life seems to thrive on water worlds and fills every niche with life. If ET is here why is he here if he know this galaxy is doomed and needs our help , who knows...

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Message 1326591 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 7:08:33 UTC

You could have a point there, Larry.
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Message 1326752 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 18:51:57 UTC - in response to Message 1326547.
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Points to ponder: In 3 billion years the Milkyway and andromada will collide head on. What if ET knows this and wants to assist us in getting to the stars and saving the essense of mankind. If we could only find out for sure one way or another. Life seems to thrive on water worlds and fills every niche with life. If ET is here why is he here if he know this galaxy is doomed and needs our help , who knows...


In 3 billion years life won't be possible on Earth because of the gradual ageing and brightening of the Sun.

Also, the collision of the Milky Way and Andromeda would likely have little effect on individual star systems. Space, even in Galaxies, is mostly empty. Epic visions of stars colliding and ripping themselves apart is unlikely.
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Message 1326760 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 19:10:09 UTC
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The most earth-like planet discovered yet

Maybe a good candidate for human's new home...
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Message 1326785 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 19:35:15 UTC

If we're still here in 3 billion years, we may have learned how to inhibit the expansion of the Sun by mixing it stratified layers and prolonging its stable life span. At least one nearby star, Zeti Reticuli appears to be part of a group of old stars, but has some points of appearance of a much younger one.
The newly discovered prospective planet KOI 172.02 may not be suitable for human habitation anyway. It could be full of sentient life already, either native to the planet or colonized from elsewhere.

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Message 1326786 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 19:37:02 UTC

They could still welcome us as the 'aliens' we are;)
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