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Message 1211922 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 15:08:01 UTC - in response to Message 1211906.  

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My 8150 @4.4 GHZ takes ~44K seconds without AVX.

8 tasks simultaneously?

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Message 1211963 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 16:26:20 UTC - in response to Message 1211922.  

thats the idea


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Message 1211964 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 16:26:51 UTC - in response to Message 1211922.  

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My 8150 @4.4 GHZ takes ~44K seconds without AVX.

8 tasks simultaneously?


Sure, yes but i only had 5 max yet.
3 cores were running MBs.



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Message 1211973 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 16:33:54 UTC - in response to Message 1211963.  
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thats the idea

It might be not an idea, as he uses GPU also, he may have left some core to serve GPU. That's why, I ask him.

i7-3820 4.65 GHz, running 4 cores only - 16-19K seconds per AP 6.01 WU, r557, but OS is not AVX aware. Gonna run 8 threads now, finally got able to run whole 8 tasks at once.
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Message 1211982 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 16:47:53 UTC - in response to Message 1211973.  

As nice as the AP's run on the Bulldozer, I think I'll keep them running on my GPU only. 1-3 hours vs 14-15 hours. GPU wins


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Message 1211988 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 16:53:27 UTC - in response to Message 1211982.  

As nice as the AP's run on the Bulldozer, I think I'll keep them running on my GPU only. 1-3 hours vs 14-15 hours. GPU wins


Yes, but now its credit efficient.
Taking 5 times longer than MB but getting 6 times credits.



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Message 1211990 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 16:56:19 UTC - in response to Message 1211982.  

As nice as the AP's run on the Bulldozer, I think I'll keep them running on my GPU only. 1-3 hours vs 14-15 hours. GPU wins


LoL, GPU wins vs other CPUs too :P

For example, my Q9450 doing 4 AP in ~12h and HD6950 GPU (especially when healed from ATI low usage bug) spends ~1.5h doing 3 tasks at once.
With bug in place it spends ~3h doing 3 tasks at once so let say 3 tasks in each 3 hours vs 4 tasks in each 12 hours - GPU wins clearly :)
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Message 1212037 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 18:51:14 UTC

I noticed a few months ago with r409 on v505 that if I ran all six cores of my 6100, the times increased on all tasks by ~33%. So I just ended up using <ncpus>3</ncpus> in my cc_config and they seem to run about as fast as I can get them to go on this hardware. That shared FPU deal really hurts when two cores in a pair try to do floating-point stuff at the same time.
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Message 1212074 - Posted: 30 Mar 2012, 21:19:47 UTC
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I have different experience.
I found out i get much better performnce running on all cores on my 8150.
Even you can´t compare r409 with r555 or r557.


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Message 1212141 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 0:38:45 UTC - in response to Message 1212074.  

I have different experience.
I found out i get much better performnce running on all cores on my 8150.
Even you can´t compare r409 with r555 or r557.

That is a good point. I suppose I can see what happens when all six run now that there is AVX.
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Message 1212161 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 1:50:15 UTC - in response to Message 1212141.  

I have different experience.
I found out i get much better performnce running on all cores on my 8150.
Even you can´t compare r409 with r555 or r557.

That is a good point. I suppose I can see what happens when all six run now that there is AVX.

Gave it a shot for a little while. 3 at a time yields a median run time of 40,450 seconds according to my spreadsheet, which translates to roughly 8.8889%/hour. Running all six cores yields about 6.5%/hour. That does in fact correlate to the roughly 33% slowdown that I observed in the battery of benchmarks I threw at this machine on day one.

Going back to 3 cores.
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Message 1212236 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 7:21:52 UTC - in response to Message 1212161.  
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3*8,9=26,7

6*6,5=39

Much more throughput with six cores.
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Message 1212250 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 8:27:06 UTC

From what I read this AMD shared FP resembles Intel's HT. It was shown that in most cases enabled HT gives better throughput thouh each single task runs slower.
I checked HT on Atom netbook and observed some speedup too.
Same here. Each individual task runs slower but whole system throughput is better.
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Message 1212254 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 9:08:10 UTC - in response to Message 1211574.  
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My 2nd rig is an AMD Phenom2 4core, its got 1 validated AP6 WU, about 3secs:-)
of course there was 100% blanking as well..

On a 6core bulldozer its between 13.5 hrs and 18 hrs.. I expect its blanking dependant given the 2nd rigs result..

All others are still awaiting validation.
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1 from rig 1 validated now at 51,208.42secs running time..

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Message 1212268 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 10:30:08 UTC

Are you aware you are running without AVX on your FX host ?

What clock speed are you at ?



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Message 1212274 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 10:42:22 UTC - in response to Message 1212268.  

Nope I wasnt aware of not running AVX on my host, particularly since siv reports a curent AP WU is being processed under ap6.01R557 SSE2_331_AVX..

Cpu is currently running all cores at 3.81Ghz..

How does one determine if AVX is on/off?
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Message 1212281 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 10:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 1212274.  
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Nope I wasnt aware of not running AVX on my host, particularly since siv reports a curent AP WU is being processed under ap6.01R557 SSE2_331_AVX..

Cpu is currently running all cores at 3.81Ghz..

How does one determine if AVX is on/off?


That only means the app is AVX capable.
You need service pack 1 to enable AVX.

Would be interesting because i tested this app on win 8 CP.
I´m running without AVX as well on my Vista host.


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Message 1212286 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 11:08:45 UTC - in response to Message 1212281.  

Ahh, that a pita, because no matter how I try I simply cannot get SP1 to install on this W7, and it IS a legit copy..

Its daft 'cos I have W7 [from same dvd [oem] on 2 other drives on this rig as backup in case the main copy falls over, and SP1 installs fine on those..

Trouble is both the other are on small SSD's, I've got about 56Gig free on one though.. But I also have a fairly large number of WU in hand.. Take a good while to work through then even with NNT.

And I doubt I can just shut boinc down and copy all the files over to the SSD and reinstall boinc and not have a problem with the outstanding WU's:-(


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Message 1212304 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 13:03:15 UTC - in response to Message 1211973.  


i7-3820 4.65 GHz, running 4 cores only - 16-19K seconds per AP 6.01 WU, r557, but OS is not AVX aware. Gonna run 8 threads now, finally got able to run whole 8 tasks at once.

Just finished several, calculated with 8 active logical cores. 29-31K seconds per task. Impressive, but still MB pays better. Gotta run with AVX to see how it will be.
Btw, AP with this application loads my CPU heavier, temperature increased 2-3 degrees compared to SSE x64 MB application.

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Message 1212340 - Posted: 31 Mar 2012, 14:33:02 UTC - in response to Message 1212236.  

3*8,9=26,7

6*6,5=39

Much more throughput with six cores.

From what I read this AMD shared FP resembles Intel's HT. It was shown that in most cases enabled HT gives better throughput thouh each single task runs slower.
I checked HT on Atom netbook and observed some speedup too.
Same here. Each individual task runs slower but whole system throughput is better.


That is true, but I prefer lower times, since they are also a bit more consistent. When I have all six cores loaded, the durations vary quite a bit, independent of % blanked. When I only run three cores, the times are consistent--only adding about 2,000 seconds for 90% blanking.

Bottom line: I'll run it my way, you can run it yours. :p
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