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Message 45753 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 3:44:48 UTC

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Message 45774 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 5:40:19 UTC - in response to Message 45753.  

Time to revisit my firewall policy...
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Message 45780 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 6:16:01 UTC - in response to Message 45753.  

> In case you haven't seen it: <a> href="http://www.ssl.berkeley.edu/pipermail/boinc_dev/2004-November/000772.html">Application
> for port-number (1043-Assigned)[/url]
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They can't use 1043. Sorry.

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Message 45781 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 6:25:24 UTC

Sorry, but how does this work, should i do nothing or is there something i have to configure?
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Message 45797 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 9:13:20 UTC - in response to Message 45781.  

> Sorry, but how does this work, should i do nothing or is there something i
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No, you don't have to do anything unless your firewall is blocking BOINC's connection. If it is, then you'll need to open up the port BOINC is using to allow the connection.

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Message 45800 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 9:20:42 UTC

For which purposes will BOINC use such a port number? Do they want to stop using port 80 (http)??? Then I will be diconnected, it's one and only port I can connect from here.
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Message 45802 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 9:31:50 UTC - in response to Message 45800.  
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> For which purposes will BOINC use such a port number? Do they want to stop
> using port 80 (http)??? Then I will be diconnected, it's one and only port I
> can connect from here.

The current rpc port is 31416 which will change to 1043.

The port is used to remotely talk to the Boinc client via rpc.

The new boinc series 4.5x uses a two aprt boinc, the core client and Boinc Manager, these talk ove the RPC port to communciate.

Normally the port is only enabled for the lcoal client, you have to enable remote rpc to talk to the boinc client from other clients.

Boinc client to projects over http on port 80 is not affected.

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Message 45803 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 9:36:34 UTC - in response to Message 45802.  

Thanks a lot, so in other words, if I want use for example BoincView to control remotely some boxes it will use new 1043 port number. So if I want to control my home box from here I have to open another port on my home firewall to connect. For example.

> > For which purposes will BOINC use such a port number? Do they want to
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> > using port 80 (http)??? Then I will be diconnected, it's one and only
> port I
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> The current rpc port is 31416 which will change to 1043.
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Message 45869 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 15:03:45 UTC - in response to Message 45803.  

open port and used protocoll (upd or tcp)

Like (CB) radio, changing the frequency.

The use of port numbers for tcp/ip programming/communication is a technical Thing.
It nearly doesn't matter, which frequency/port number is used, IF the port is free and open.

The IANA organisation is a kind of central registration area, "Adresses" are assigned for world wide use.

The stage before aproovement is RFC (Request for comment)a de facto standard.

Now it looks like, for BOINC, a world wide unique port number is officilaly assigned and reserved.

Still open 4e, will it be a common change to the new port number(now registered) or will this number used additionally ?
like mentioned above, for commnunication between Management station (for exp. BoncView) and core client?
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Message 45873 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 15:11:52 UTC - in response to Message 45869.  

> Still open 4e, will it be a common change to the new port number(now
> registered) or will this number used additionally ?
> like mentioned above, for commnunication between Management station (for exp.
> BoncView) and core client?
> Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)
I think they (in Berkeley) would like use that port in general and have it registered. One reason what I see is for example that when I'm configuring some router or firewall in the same way like for SMTP, POP3 I will build in BOINC Client port enable/disable. Other tink is, just some kind of my personal philosophy, it goes to be more official. Since port is registered it is going to be a standard. Which sounds pretty good.
And probably they will offer possibility to swith form port 80 (http) if user want to own port number. So also client - server communication will be possible on that different port number.
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Message 45877 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 15:32:21 UTC - in response to Message 45873.  

U right.
> want to own port number. So also client - server communication will be
> possible on that different port number.


quota
BOINC's GUI RPC now has an official port number (see below)
so we're going to switch to it (from the pi-inspired 31416).
-- David

rereading the statement, I interprete, they will change.

This will be an adventure, to change "world wide" the ports used.
The only, less hard way might be, to allow both numbers at the same time for a
announced time frame.

Whats good with the entry at iana also is, the people running at work and had some restrictions due traffic filtering/shapper, they can now go and say, look, the port adress is an official adress, there is no reason to keep it close.

Til now the admins could say, is there something official?

using several (open) ports together, could give "Boinc management apps"
more speed, in point of view midrange/large farms and could bundle the local traffic more.
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Message 45935 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 19:47:00 UTC

Does port change affect me?

This port change will only affect people who use 3rd party programs to help manage their boinc systems. If you don't use one, this does not affect you.
Examples: boincview, boinclogX, CPDN spy, etc.

When will it happen?
This port will probably only go into affect when the version 4.50 BOINC client is released. There is a possibility it might be used on an earlier release.

What is port change
For WU upload/download, updating, etc. BOINC uses the standard web page port for all communications (Port 80, like when you type http://).

For special client control and status requests a different port is used (called the RPC port).

Apparently David Anderson and the development group applied for an official port number, from the port management group.

They were just granted one -- 1043.

Until this time they had been using 31416 (see definition of PI)

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Message 45940 - Posted: 12 Nov 2004, 20:06:59 UTC

@Benger: Nice summary.
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Message 45981 - Posted: 13 Nov 2004, 0:16:53 UTC - in response to Message 45873.  

> And probably they will offer possibility to swith form port 80 (http) if user
> want to own port number. So also client - server communication will be
> possible on that different port number.

I highly doubt that. As far as I know, this is only going to affect RPC access to the client.

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Message 46007 - Posted: 13 Nov 2004, 3:03:11 UTC - in response to Message 45935.  

> When will it happen?
> This port will probably only go into affect when the version 4.50 BOINC client
> is released. There is a possibility it might be used on an earlier release.

Looks like it's going to be in the next Core Client after v4.54.

BOINC Checkin Notes (Long load time)
"David 12 Nov 2004
- bug fixes for admin web interface (from Bruce Allen)
- change GUI RPC port number from 31416 to 1043
- remove Mac files from Makefile"


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